PhilipO48
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Hi guys, I'm doing a new build as my main pc[for 4K], and i'll be ordering 2 evga 980's this week to go with a Samsung 4K monitor. But i'm stuck if i need to put extra money into a 5830 for it's 40 pci lanes or save the $200 or so, and go with the 5820 with it's 28 pli lanes. Iv'e read all possible info on pci lanes and if it's the 5820, i'm looking at 16/8 for a 2way sli. (I won't ever be using a 3 way sli config. due to diminishing returns on the 3rd gpu. Plus i upgrade gpu's every yr and i like to go high end on 2 gpu's for less micro-stuttering and higher compatibility as well) Ok, so my question is simple, will i ever notice a difference as faras 16/16(5830) and 16/8(5820) pci lanes for 4K gaming at 60fps? It seems there is a 4-5% difference in BF4 sli configs[in the anandtech.com 5820/5830 review] and it's believed to be because BF4 is using multi-threading. So at worst, if these sites benchmarks are correct, it's a 3fps difference when gaming at 4K/60. So what is your opinion on what cpu i should choose here? This has been driving me crazy for a week now and i value these forum's opinions..alot. TIA [older rig: Alienware Auroda: 3820 at 4.2GHz, 16GB Ram, 500GB Samsung SSD...ect. I'm upgrading as i'm not happy with the cpu, motherboard, case,p.s.-->airflow and i cannot stand using a Dell pc. Only thing good about the pc is the 16/16 2.0 pci lanes for 2 way sli]
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/17 18:47:40
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Being EVGA Forum you should go with Dual GTX 980 Running 2-Way SLI and the i7-5930K CPU But you may want the i7-5930K CPU Max # of PCI Express Lanes 40 i7-5820K Max # of PCI Express Lanes 28 CPU ComparedBTW I have the Alienware Aurora R4 with a i7-3930K and one GTX 690 still runs like fine. I now use it as my Finance and Records Management Computer.
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/17 19:09:59
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/17 19:14:55
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Thanks, and yes i'm almost locked into two of the evga 980
reference style sc'ed models.
I'm still not sure on the 5930 or 5820, as what i really want is
the 5960(8 core) so i can be somewhat future proof for a few
years. And i'll replace the 5820/5830 with the 5860 when
that drops in price to under $600, whenever that may be.
And i'd go with the 5830 but iv'e never went sli before,
as i never went higher then 1080p, so the highest end
gpu(yeah even a 1K Titan), to avoid any stuttering
or compatibility issues.
So, to be honest, if i get alot of sli stuttering in some games,
i'll just stick with one 980(and then eventually one 980 ti)
and go no higher then 1440p.
btw: The Auroda R4 can last me until a new build with a 5860,
but the case is badly ventilated and alot of dust build up
in impossible to reach areas. And while i have one Titan inside
it, the performance is weaker then the $350 970's, and in
a few games at 1080p(ie.Far Cry 4) i want a lock down 60fps.
(or as close as possible)
Best of luck with your Auroda and 690. Do you get much
stuttering in games?
Thanks again!
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/17 20:14:16
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/17 20:18:18
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PhilipO48
Thanks, and yes i'm almost locked into two of the evga 980
reference style sc'ed models.
I'm still not sure on the 5930 or 5820, as what i really want is
the 5960(8 core) so i can be somewhat future proof for a few
years. And i'll replace the 5820/5830 with the 5860 when
that drops in price to under $600, whenever that may be.
And i'd go with the 5830 but iv'e never went sli before,
as i never went higher then 1080p, so the highest end
gpu(yeah even a 1K Titan), to avoid any stuttering
or compatibility issues.
So, to be honest, if i get alot of sli stuttering in some games,
i'll just stick with one 980(and then eventually one 980 ti)
and go no higher then 1440p.
btw: The Auroda R4 can last me until a new build with a 5860,
but the case is badly ventilated and alot of dust build up
in impossible to reach areas. And while i have one Titan inside
it, the performance is weaker then the $350 970's, and in
a few games at 1080p(ie.Far Cry 4) i want a lock down 60fps.
(or as close as possible)
Best of luck with your Auroda and 690. Do you get much
stuttering in games?
Thanks again!
If I did go up to the X99 it would be with the i7-5960X for the 8 Cores and 16 Cores in HT Mode. 5820/5830 with the 5860? i7-5820K or i7-5930K or i7-5960X On the 5830 you do mean the i7-5930K correct? Or is the 5830 some kind of AMD Graphics Cards?
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/18 02:02:06
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I went with the 5820k, in my mind 1-5fps is not enough to warrant a $200 difference (used those extra funds for a 1440p display) when you can probably overclock your gpu's a tad in sli and make up for whatever difference you'd see from 16/16 to 16/8 or 8/8. I plan on getting another 970 FTW later when prices drop if they are still available, but if not move up to whatever high-end Volta cards which are supposed to be game changers whenever they release. Sorry for rambling, but yeah as others have posted if cash isn't an issue I'd definitely go for the 5930k or even the 5960x. Good luck on your build, looks to be a beast no matter what you decide on. Edit: this vid may help too youtube.com/watch?v=rctaLgK5stA
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/18 22:33:35
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bcavnaugh
PhilipO48
Thanks, and yes i'm almost locked into two of the evga 980
reference style sc'ed models.
I'm still not sure on the 5930 or 5820, as what i really want is
the 5960(8 core) so i can be somewhat future proof for a few
years. And i'll replace the 5820/5830 with the 5860 when
that drops in price to under $600, whenever that may be.
And i'd go with the 5830 but iv'e never went sli before,
as i never went higher then 1080p, so the highest end
gpu(yeah even a 1K Titan), to avoid any stuttering
or compatibility issues.
So, to be honest, if i get alot of sli stuttering in some games,
i'll just stick with one 980(and then eventually one 980 ti)
and go no higher then 1440p.
btw: The Auroda R4 can last me until a new build with a 5860,
but the case is badly ventilated and alot of dust build up
in impossible to reach areas. And while i have one Titan inside
it, the performance is weaker then the $350 970's, and in
a few games at 1080p(ie.Far Cry 4) i want a lock down 60fps.
(or as close as possible)
Best of luck with your Auroda and 690. Do you get much
stuttering in games?
Thanks again!
If I did go up to the X99 it would be with the i7-5960X for the 8 Cores and 16 Cores in HT Mode.
5820/5830 with the 5860? i7-5820K or i7-5930K or i7-5960X
On the 5830 you do mean the i7-5930K correct?
Or is the 5830 some kind of AMD Graphics Cards?
My apologies as i meant to type the i7-5930K. (and of course i7-5960x) Actually i'm probably going to just stay with the 3820 at 4.2GHz as looking at so many gaming benchmarks, i just don't see much of a reason to go with the 5820, at this moment. When the 5860x drops to say the $500 range or so, then that will be the time to build a new rig. It's nice to go from a 4 core to 6 core but ideally i want an Intel 8 core, as i'm sure i'd be set for a few yrs, just like most I7 users are set now with I7-4 cores. Also, while it's only 2-5% difference[5820K], the lowering of PCI lanes from 40 to 28, just annoyes me. And the 5930K is right in the middle of the road, and i know i'll be upgrading anyway to a 5960X, as i prefer a build with an 8 core cpu.(Intel only) Also Intel is set to release the next cpu's in the fall of 2015, and i'm curious what they will be priced at, especially the 8 core sku's. I'm just hoping my 3820 at 4.2GHz, won't bottleneck a 2 way SLI config of GTX980's. Thanks for all whom replied here, i do appreciate it alot!
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/18 22:50:29
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Everyone love 8 core Intel but it's expensive.
It would be nice to hold i7-5960X on 4.0GHz with H220X and GSKill Ripjaws 4 2800 MHz but it's expensive.
For me is better investment same price for premium GPU than 5960X but who don't like 5960X.
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/24 20:45:05
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Thanks guys for all the advise! Actually, i'm going with a low end(non 4K) build using the 5820K until Skylake is launched and also unlocked. And that's where i'm going all out on a 4K build. For now, a 5820K and the upcoming 980TI will be a nice pairing for 1080p gaming.(and O. Rift as well, as i'll be ordering one to start the new year :) At first, i was going to go all out on a 5930K build and then add SLI'ed Titan 2's so i can get 4K/60fps on a LG 55" 4KTV, but with PCI 4.0 arriving in 2015 with Skylake, i'm waiting for that cpu to get a fully unlocked line(with hopefully a more afforable 8 core cpu), and then make a nice 4K build to last 4 or so years. [It's too bad the p.o.s Dell Auroda R4 is a mess with air cooling and it's weak p.s..and everything, as i'd just wait it out until the Skylake cpu's are launched. But i'm selling that mess of a pc and putting the $ into the 5820K build {non Dell..lol} Maybe by 2016 we can see one GPU deliver 4K/60fps? As that would be perfect, since i keep reading about microstutter when using SLI. Thanks again guys!.
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Re: Need advise, new build: Dual 980's, 5820 or 5830 cpu? TIA
2014/12/24 21:01:00
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kb5266
I went with the 5820k, in my mind 1-5fps is not enough to warrant a $200 difference (used those extra funds for a 1440p display) when you can probably overclock your gpu's a tad in sli and make up for whatever difference you'd see from 16/16 to 16/8 or 8/8. I plan on getting another 970 FTW later when prices drop if they are still available, but if not move up to whatever high-end Volta cards which are supposed to be game changers whenever they release.
Sorry for rambling, but yeah as others have posted if cash isn't an issue I'd definitely go for the 5930k or even the 5960x. Good luck on your build, looks to be a beast no matter what you decide on.
Edit: this vid may help too
youtube.com/watch?v=rctaLgK5stA
Thank i appreciate it! Likewise i'm going with the 5820K as i read so much about SLI issues(some game incompatibilities or flickering, and especially micro-stuttering) , that i'm sticking to one GPU only. (be it the 970FTW or the 980 SC'ed, as i'm sticking to 1080p as i only game on a Plasma) Just reading up on PCI 4.0 with Skylake, that's where i'm putting major money aside for that build, for 4K gaming on a big screen. Also, in reading every possible PCI-Lane article, there's one that shows exactly what you said, it's only a 1-5fps difference at 60fps. Here it is: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/ Thanks again for the reply back.
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