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2015/11/16 13:20:27 (permalink)
http://vrworld.com/2015/11/16/nvidia-unveils-pascal-gpu-16gb-of-memory-1tbs-bandwidth/
 
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/16 13:30:14 (permalink)
    brain is exploding. Lets hope it has display port 1.3
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/16 13:30:40 (permalink)
    hmm 16/32 GB of Vram, granted that's for the professional level I'm sure, the gaming ones will likely be 8/16 for the top end. also more than triple the bandwidth of current memory is nice, I just wonder how much that will help the processor when it's never waiting on memory.
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/16 17:08:51 (permalink)
    Yes, my heart start to beat harder only when Intel launch new Xtreme and NVIDIA new 250W power consumption cards.
    For everything else is interesting but not so much...
    From other side I like this ASUS 980Ti Matrix... He is huge and overclocked properly.
    But to be honest if I need to choose 800 euro for Maxwell crippled GM200 or NVIDIA Pascal GP100 not crippled for 1000 euro.
    I choose NVIDIA Pascal. Both is not possible for me when distance between launch is so close, lower than 8 months.
    Very important and good thing is when NVIDIA make same chip for professional and gaming purpose, Tesla and GeForce. 
    Than we can expect best cards with less problems. Off course they will cut half of video memory, but processor is important. 
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/16 23:48:24 (permalink)
    I wish CPUs could get this exciting again... very much looking forward to Pascal and Volta. 


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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/17 04:41:59 (permalink)
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    I wish CPUs could get this exciting again... very much looking forward to Pascal and Volta. 


    Maybe next year with Amd zen? Bwahahaha couldn't even type that with a straight face. I hope for the best but expect the worst with Amd.

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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/17 14:25:22 (permalink)
    Sweet, looks like we may not need SLI for 2016.


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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/17 14:32:59 (permalink)
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    Sweet, looks like we may want SLI for 2016.

    Fixed (why need when you can want :P)


     
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/17 17:29:07 (permalink)
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    Sweet, looks like we may want SLI for 2016.

    Fixed (why need when you can want :P)


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    it should say "we may not need SLI for 2016".
     
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    I see what you did there, lol.
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/17 17:37:17 (permalink)
    Pascal sounds great, but NVlink sounds like it might be a MOBO nightmare. I already own a MOBO I would like to use for next years GPU... sigh

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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/17 17:57:33 (permalink)
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    Pascal sounds great, but NVlink sounds like it might be a MOBO nightmare. I already own a MOBO I would like to use for next years GPU... sigh


    Why don't more people see this.. Why are people ignoring that NV Link is supposed to replace PCI.

    It will be a supercomputer feature for "deep learning". They do state that consumers "may see advantages" with its features, but it never says it will be available to consumers in full capacity.

    I'm not even going to waste the time posting the article again. I have shared this on numerous occasions, and the lemmings keep reading NVLINK and walking off the edge, or the thread comes to a halt and noone responds after that.

    This is what people remind me of when they say " and we get nvlink".




    Here.. I will post articles.. This took less than a minute to find on a smart phone, yet most people ignore these truths and facts, thanks to horrible reporting by the tech media sites that want views.

    http://blogs.nvidia.com/b.../11/14/what-is-nvlink/

    Go to this page, and download the white paper... This also stresses that nvlink is going to be the backbone for two supercomputers..
    http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvlink.html

    I do apologize, I can't find the specific article where it talks about NV link where it talks about the difference in the end user product VS the full NVlink featured in super computers in the articles above. I edited my post into something a little bit shorter and easier to read.



    Finally found the definition for the supercomputer phrase, "deep learning" :
    https://developer.nvidia.com/deep-learning

    Hint: it's not gaming, lol.
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/18 10:22:59 (permalink)
    I found this:
    Pascal and Volta GPUs Now Supported By Latest GeForce 358.66 Drivers
    http://wccftech.com/nvidi...ds-support-vulkan-api/

    Sounds like there will be a PCIE consumer version.

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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/18 10:30:28 (permalink)
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    I found this:
    Pascal and Volta GPUs Now Supported By Latest GeForce 358.66 Drivers
    http://wccftech.com/nvidi...ds-support-vulkan-api/

    Sounds like there will be a PCIE consumer version.


    Good info. Thank you.


    "This specific PCB will come with the Mezzanine connector that has speeds of 15 GB/s and up to 40 GB/s and will be available on select HPC servers and workstations that feature NVLINK support. Several of these boards can be stacked on top of each other to conserve space inside servers while consumer PCs will stick with PCI-Express form factor and full-length cards as they are the best solution for high-end gaming rigs and professional usage"

    To drive home my point, the claw doesn't choose consumers this round. This will help clear up the idea that NV link is going to do anything for gaming.
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/18 12:28:31 (permalink)
    I would like to imagine gaming at the level to actually use/need NVlink, but I'm just hoping to see gaming utilize the best of what I hear about DX12. I think that could be the next huge up grade.

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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/18 12:41:49 (permalink)
    I'm interested to see what both companies do with the next-gen of HBM(2) of memory modules ....
    and why systems haven't started getting the stacked memory cubes yet either  ?? 

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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/18 16:43:11 (permalink)
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    I'm interested to see what both companies do with the next-gen of HBM(2) of memory modules ....
    and why systems haven't started getting the stacked memory cubes yet either  ?? 


    You mean system memory like this?
    Micron Will Unveil the Hybrid Memory Cube 3.0 Specification in 2016 – Significant Gains Expected Over HMC 2.0
    Read more: http://wccftech.com/micron-hybrid-memory-cube-3-0-specification/#ixzz3rtTYZu7p
    http://wccftech.com/micron-hybrid-memory-cube-3-0-specification/
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/20 09:14:13 (permalink)
    but can it play Crysis at 4k
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/20 09:22:44 (permalink)
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    but can it play Crysis at 4k


    You already know the answer is no.
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/20 09:53:45 (permalink)
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    but can it play Crysis at 4k


    You already know the answer is no.



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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/20 10:04:42 (permalink)
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    ...also more than triple the bandwidth of current memory is nice, I just wonder how much that will help the processor when it's never waiting on memory.
    Just find a scenario where a reliance on memory bandwidth is created: a GPU-bound resolution and setting.  The only example I know where a real-world triple in bandwidth had an impact is with Intel's Iris Pro IGP.

    Intel's HD 5100 has 40-eu at 1100MHz, but depended on dual-channel DDR3-1600 system RAM at 25.6GB/s for bandwidth.
    Intel's HD 5200 has 40-eu at 1150MHz, but has an eDRAM cache running at 75.8GB/s for bandwidth.

    The effect is a 3Dmark11 Performance preset score of 1151 on HD 5100 and 1940 on HD 5200--  70% increase with a negligible change in the GPU spec.

    Therefore, hypothetically, if nVidia remade GTX980 Ti with HBM2.0, the card would be faster while using less power.  Although the caveat is a hard pill to swallow as the graphics details would have to be so high (fully GPU-bound) that the frame rates wouldn't be optimal, i.e. force 4K surround on a single card.  I mean, seriously, who would push the graphics details on an IGP just to make it scale so high?

    But of course, I don't think nVidia isn't using HBM for the bandwidth (that is just marketing), I think they are using it for the power savings, i.e. an excuse to use larger GPU dies since the GDDRx takes up such a share of space and power on the PCB.  Pascal Titans won't be 250W+ cards unless the GPU itself is larger than 600m2 despite the shrink from 28nm to account for the need for power saving HBM.

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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/20 10:10:59 (permalink)
    I could see NVIDIA doing just like AMD and making special cards (titans) with hbm2, and then the lesser cards stick with gddr5 just to test out how well hbm works out for their purposes.

    I don't see Nvidia allowing the first generation be a customizable PCB, like the 980ti vs the Titan X or 780/780ti vs the original Titan and black.

    Only time will tell, and since there is nothing but speculations this time, we can only hope for actual answers sometime around midyear '16.

    Notice that fury pcb's aren't customizable either.
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/20 14:33:01 (permalink)
    The hype is strong in this article. Cynicism in me will wait till I see real-world data on the new architecture from those that don't have a vested interest in the product line.
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/20 16:26:26 (permalink)
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    I wish CPUs could get this exciting again... very much looking forward to Pascal and Volta. 


    Maybe next year with Amd zen? Bwahahaha couldn't even type that with a straight face. I hope for the best but expect the worst with Amd.



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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/24 05:46:19 (permalink)
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    but can it play Crysis at 4k


    You already know the answer is no.



    i can dream cant i


    I would say it's entirely possible, Here is an older article that shows SLI 780s running it at 4K 60fps. http://www.anandtech.com/...deon-r9-290x-review/13

     
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2015/11/24 10:20:59 (permalink)
    I would like to ASUS launch card with little higher clock if NVIDIA present next TITAN, successor of TITAN X.
    100-150MHz it's enough... 
     

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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2016/01/27 17:46:54 (permalink)
    Some news say Pascal in April. Again GeForce TITAN. 
    I think before summer everything will be finished and we will see maybe full GP100 maybe not.
    I hope they will repeat same scenario as with TITAN X, because with Kepler they cut some CUDA cores.
     
    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-big-pascal-gp100-to-debut-in-april-mid-range-gtx-1080-in-june.html
     
    It will be interesting to see how new cards behave in DX12. 
     
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    Re: NVIDIA Unveils Pascal GPU: 16GB of memory, 1TB/s Bandwidth 2016/01/27 18:43:22 (permalink)
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    It will be interesting to see how new cards behave in DX12. 
     


    It will be more interesting to see DX12 actually in use. I don't care about benchmarks and "number of drawcalls" anymore... games. Real world performance. Reality. None of that has been shown 100% in effect.
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