boredgunner

babyballa

boredgunner
One 6-pin and one 8-pin.  So the TDP is between 250W and 300W.  The GTX 480's is 250W but when pushed in Furmark it can consume about 300W of power. 

TDP isn't how much voltages it uses. It how much heat it generates... A lot of people forget that.
This card max draw is 300w 75+75+150, PCI-e slot. 6 pin and 8 pin connectors. My guess is that the card will be a consuming max of 275w. You have around 25watts for Overclocking, Meaning your overclock probably be cut in half.

The GTX470 TDP is 215w, Each heatpipe (8mm) can handle around 42.3 watts. 
As you can see in this picture 

The 470 heatsink has 5 heatpipes at 8mm each The cooler on the card is barely can handle the beast. 

This card has the simaliar cooling setup meaning that this will output more heat then it can dissipate. The fin density and the upped fan size will probably help. But you won't see low, cool temps like the 460 or 470.

I'm guessing Clock for clock you see 10-20fps gain depending on game with this card

Who said anything about voltage?  TDP is in fact a measurement of the heat generated in watts.  Maximum power consumption is not equal to the TDP but close.  The GTX 580 can exceed 300W of power consumption.  A PCI-E 2.0 slot is rated for 75W but can deliver more.  20 FPS gain is unlikely except in games that already run at hundreds of FPS with a single GTX 480.

Regarding the other comments talking about size of the card...

GTX 470 = 9.5 inches long, uses its own backplate
GTX 480 = 10.5 inches long
GTX 580 = 10.5 inches long

i think your confused here...
there is no formal conversion of watts to a heat measurement
watts is joules per second (a rate of energy consumption or generation)
heat is measured in degrees celsuis or kelvin
when u generate or consume energy heat is not always a by product

You mean PCI-E 2.0 and 2.1?  Didn't know that.  I hope the 244W number is correct.  

WTB "595" 
 
seems nvidia is on a rebranding spree :( skipped 300 series, went straight to 480 and now a 500 fermi series w/o a dual chip card announcment??

cdolphin
Perhaps the movement is away from dual GPU cards. The parallel processing occurs at the core level, look at the number of shaders!

but dual chips will allow me to grill two burgers!
 
idk about you but that's efficiency at its finest!

cdolphin

Perhaps the movement is away from dual GPU cards. The parallel processing occurs at the core level, look at the number of shaders!

One would only hope.  Dual chips never seem to get the support they need and are often prone to problems.  AMD and Nvidia should agree to drop them.  Get SLI or Crossfire if you want true multi GPU performance. 

kram36

Looks good. I like it.

I don't, for someone with already a set of 400-series cards, this is no real upgrade. Not enough to bother with and definitely not worth calling a 500-series card.

Brad_Hawthorne

kram36

Looks good. I like it.

I don't, for someone with already a set of 400-series cards, this is no real upgrade. Not enough to bother with and definitely not worth calling a 500-series card.

 
 
i agree. i have over $1000 in my 2 480's.  if i sell them i will get $750 for them, and then have to buy 2 580's for $1000.  that means it will cost me $600 ($300 in depreciation + $300 for 580's) to upgrade 10-20%.  i am better off waiting for the 680 getting $200 for the cards and spending $1000 on the new cards.  by that time i should be getting 60-80% performance increase.

i agree. i have over $1000 in my 2 480's.  if i sell them i will get $750 for them, and then have to buy 2 580's for $1000.
 
the 480's were priced high because they were hard to produce., the 580  shouldn't have that problem.

I though thay were going to be 512 bit. not 384-bit Memory interface

Brad_Hawthorne

kram36

Looks good. I like it.

I don't, for someone with already a set of 400-series cards, this is no real upgrade. Not enough to bother with and definitely not worth calling a 500-series card.

Well then these cards are not for you then. It's you choice to sit on what you have or move up. No reason to bash the cards. I sold off my GTX 480's about a months ago. I didn't take much of a hit on them and for what I did lose it was well worth the enjoyment time I got out of them.
 
I also can't believe the whining over the 580 naming, it's just a number.

squall-leonhart

Why shouldn't they have the same problem? They still have to bin for the 580...

Because the node has matured, and nvidia has adjusted what needed to be to ensure fully enabled Dies are producible.

The 285 cost less than the 280 upon release going by memory.

what was the reason for that? Surely the 285 would be more expensive? 

LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!!!
 
http://vr-zone.com/articl...arks-leaked/10202.html

kram36

Well then these cards are not for you then.
 
I also can't believe the whining over the 580 naming, it's just a number.

The difference is not enough to make me want to lose money on the change. There is significance to the 500-series label. NVIDIA designates series changes as major changes in the archetecture. They made the determination to call it the 500-series, instead of the GTX485 or the GTX680. My insight on the matter is quite easy to follow for those who know the history of NVIDIA releases. It's obvious NVIDIA didn't think it was enough for a archeticture change either, or they would have kept to the 2-series naming jump and it would have been the GTX680. 
   
I think you are a bit confused, I'm not whining at all. Ultimately, this is all just PR marketing noise you've been spoon fed. Labeling someone as a whiner is a reaction by people that don't like the writing on the wall when it's spelled out to them. I don't fit into your notion of reality, therefore I'm a whiner. Besides, you should know better than to label other forum members in an insulting way around here. It will get you a warning.

Brad_Hawthorne

kram36

Well then these cards are not for you then.

I also can't believe the whining over the 580 naming, it's just a number.

The difference is not enough to make me want to lose money on the change. There is significance to the 500-series label. NVIDIA designates series changes as major changes in the archetecture. They made the determination to call it the 500-series, instead of the GTX485 or the GTX680. My insight on the matter is quite easy to follow for those who know the history of NVIDIA releases. It's obvious NVIDIA didn't think it was enough for a archeticture change either, or they would have kept to the 2-series naming jump and it would have been the GTX680.
 

I think you are a bit confused, I'm not whining at all. Ultimately, this is all just PR marketing noise you're been spoon fed. Labeling someone as a whiner is a reflex action by people that don't like the writing on the wall when it's spelled out to them. I don't fit into your notion of reality, therefore I'm a whiner.

Nah your just seem to be nit picking at stuff. The numbering isn't a big deal. There are tons of people who will drop their current card to get this one and tons other waiting to purchase it. Sorry nVidia didn't need Brad Hawthorne in their development and AMD allowed you inside for setup, but to nit pick like this is really unbecoming of you.

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