My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit

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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/23 23:22:30 (permalink)
OK, did some quick stress testing and I see improvements in GPU temp under load which is great, especially considered it runs dead quiet now (what a relief)
 
however I see zero improvement in CPU temps under load ... so I guess the next step is to reseat the block (in a week or so) and if that doesn't help ... oh well I guess I will kill it eventually and ask Intel for a new (better!) one ... I seriously suspect the TIM under IHS not to make any decent contact (CPU cannot properly exchange heat under load).

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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/24 01:35:08 (permalink)
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OK, did some quick stress testing and I see improvements in GPU temp under load which is great, especially considered it runs dead quiet now (what a relief)

however I see zero improvement in CPU temps under load ... so I guess the next step is to reseat the block (in a week or so) and if that doesn't help ... oh well I guess I will kill it eventually and ask Intel for a new (better!) one ... I seriously suspect the TIM under IHS not to make any decent contact (CPU cannot properly exchange heat under load).

 
I saw very little change on my CPU temps as well when I went from a Rasa to Raystorm block, but at the same time I also put my GTX 580 under the loop. I am using a single RX360 radiator. My 580 however saw DRAMATIC drops in temp, from 90C full load to 50C full load in 80F ambient! Also made my system MUCH quieter since the GPU fan has been eliminated!
 
Curse this Ivy Bridge and TIM! I just don't understand why Intel would do that to us! Better wait for Haswell and see what it's like. Now go get some rest dude! I hate going to work as a zombie. Always ends up disastrous


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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/24 06:48:45 (permalink)
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OK, did some quick stress testing and I see improvements in GPU temp under load which is great, especially considered it runs dead quiet now (what a relief)

however I see zero improvement in CPU temps under load ... so I guess the next step is to reseat the block (in a week or so) and if that doesn't help ... oh well I guess I will kill it eventually and ask Intel for a new (better!) one ... I seriously suspect the TIM under IHS not to make any decent contact (CPU cannot properly exchange heat under load).


I saw very little change on my CPU temps as well when I went from a Rasa to Raystorm block, but at the same time I also put my GTX 580 under the loop. I am using a single RX360 radiator. My 580 however saw DRAMATIC drops in temp, from 90C full load to 50C full load in 80F ambient! Also made my system MUCH quieter since the GPU fan has been eliminated!

Curse this Ivy Bridge and TIM! I just don't understand why Intel would do that to us! Better wait for Haswell and see what it's like. Now go get some rest dude! I hate going to work as a zombie. Always ends up disastrous

 
yeah he he, no fun in being at work in a zombie mode ... sipping my cup of coffee now, so I can hold my eyes wide open LOL!
 
my 670 GPU was pretty cool to start with, have never seen it go above 65C under load even when overclocked (maybe it's bad LOL! I don't know heh). under water it went down to 54C under 3dm11/heaven3 benchmarking load when OC'ed.
for some strange reason my card refuses to boost under stress tester load (e.g. EVGA Scanner X), will need to look into it, for now it's running the updated EVGA BIOS, can flash back to factory stock and compare.
 
and yeah ... those IB chips of ours are cursed ... me neither can believe how badly Intel f**ked up the TIM under IHS on some batches ... it's unbelievable  ... why did they go with the stupid TIM anyways???
last thing left to check is my CPU block placement and my current TIM footprint and correct it if anything wrong with it.
other than that I am seriously thinking about taking my second chance in Intel CPU lottery (via overcocker's RMA once I get done with it) ... wondering if my chip can boot to 5GHz
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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/24 18:15:11 (permalink)
... as promised ... some pics of system upgrade finished and running, leak-tested, bled and fully functional ... the only thing you have to forgive me is lack of sleeving on the MB 24-pin connector (and CPU/EPS and PCIe for SLI, but those are black anyways when stock) ...
 
this is my beast as of now (updating some of MR pics too):

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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/24 21:18:32 (permalink)
correction.
under 3dmark11 load when OC'ed to 1242Mhz core (+145 offset) my GTX 670 hits only 50C.
 
I finally managed to make the card run at full throttle under the latest EVGA Scanner X when GPU is OC'ed ... needed to use the Furry-Tessy test (max temps 56C) ... for some reason when I run pure Tessy test (1920x1200 in full screen) it does not boost at all and stays locked at 915Mhz and 30-40% GPU load ...

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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/24 21:57:37 (permalink)

 
Wow that looks sick, much neater and more impressive than your previous one with the clear tubing! xD
 
Weird how your HDDs mount where a top mounted PSU would... heh I'm so jelly!!!!!!!


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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/24 22:22:36 (permalink)
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Wow that looks sick, much neater and more impressive than your previous one with the clear tubing! xD

Weird how your HDDs mount where a top mounted PSU would... heh I'm so jelly!!!!!!!

 
thank you sir for your kind words
 
FYI, my HDDs are at top exactly where the top mounted PSU is (behind them, mounted kinda vertically like on its side) Thermaltake knew what they were doing with this full armor case back in the day ... after a little drill/dremel/spray modding I cannot think of a better case after all
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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/25 09:53:47 (permalink)
Is that a UV light on TOP?
Is that white tubing?
If so, what brand is it?
Do you like it? Is it very bright? Will you recommend it?
 
If not,
awesome rig !!
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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/25 12:46:58 (permalink)
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Is that a UV light on TOP?
Is that white tubing?
If so, what brand is it?
Do you like it? Is it very bright? Will you recommend it?

If not,
awesome rig !!
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thanks!
 
yes, there is a 12'' UV coldcathode at top, there is also another shorter one in center of reservoir. I will also be adding 1 more 12'' UV cold cathode at bottom, but will need to hook it up to a separate inverter.
 
Tubing color is UV Blue (semi-transparent when no UV light is present), but when taking pics at night it becomes more like white (sorry, it's how my camera's sensor sees it because the blue shine is bright):
http://www.frozencpu.com/...18_Wall_-_UV_Blue.html
 
I like this tubing very much for its flexibility and kink resistance and it looks good under UV. however to be honest with you, it doesn't seem to like distilled water and silver kill coil for some reason when lots of copper components is present in the loop.
Manufacturer advices to use Primochill Utopia (e.g. clear 3mL syringe is $6.65 shipped from jab-tech) additive to avoid residue buildup on the tubing inside walls in long term. Other than that I like it.
post edited by feniks - 2012/08/25 16:14:46

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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/27 21:39:00 (permalink)
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dang ... I hate DOA stuff ... spent my time on second cold cathode on new separate inverter ... modded the power connector (so it fits fan controller socket instead of molex), sleeved all the wiring, including extension cable and fan Y-splitter (so I could hook up 2 inverters to one channel on fan controller) .. installed all in place and for what? the new cold cathode is faulty
 
the crap doesn't even power up when I connect it through CCFL extension wire (tested on 2 different ones, either one normally working fine). then tested it when connected directly to either of inverters and it does light up, but is still dimmer than my first UV cathode ... best part it doesn't even pay off to send it back for replacement ...
 
decided to order another dual cathode kit with inverter (and the crap PCI bracket that I always cut out from circuitry) from newegg ... BTW, does all stores only sell this cheap Logisys stuff? nothing better, brighter, stronger, more durable out there? kinda annoying ...
 
at least this way I will have 2 cathodes to choose from and a spare inverter...
 
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anyways, still haven't sleeved the rest of PSU extensions ... got all stuff from mdpc-x though, just postponing ... would like to finish off my rig and be done with it all finally ... at least I have something to do while waiting for improved Final Z77 FTW BIOS hehe

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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/27 21:56:31 (permalink)
Hey better a defective lighting hardware than defective.... anything else in that monster rig! xD Like a defective pump!


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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/27 22:05:11 (permalink)
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Hey better a defective lighting hardware than defective.... anything else in that monster rig! xD Like a defective pump!

 
true, brother. i'm just ranting for the sakes of it ha ha! all works good ... my only performance problem is truly related to high CPU temps ... need to find time to look into this one too eventually ... for now I backed off to rock solid 4.6GHz ... need to figure out what to do about this CPu of mine ... but first I need a solid BIOS to test it with ...
 
also, I am contemplating about getting the 24V controller for my pump ... just $40 and a beasty boost to flow & pressure of my D5 Strong ... man I think I will never eat normal lunch at work again ...

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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/28 10:37:22 (permalink)
today played a little with MartinsLiquidLab Pump & Rad optimizer (template spreadsheet here) and it seems that my current loop with pump @ 12V yields around 1.1GPM & 3.4psi. now, just by adding the 24V pump controller to my current setup, it seems to move to max of 1.68GPM & 6.6psi ... quite a boost
 
example of components I used to come up with those numbers (substituted EX360 with RS360 and used Razor 480 instead of 670, I also use 500W of total heat load because my CPU temp under load is out of control currently) for my current loop:

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After adding 24V pump controller (all the rest same):

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it's way better than my former loop calculations, yielding around 1.0GPM & 1.4psi with XSPC 750 dual bay res combo + RX240 + raystorm cpu block (no compression fittings, no 90-degree anything, just straight barbs) ... spreadsheet for comparison:


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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/08/30 20:35:05 (permalink)
received 2 more of 12'' cold cathodes today. same problem, they can't work through a 24'' CCFL wire extension (to inverter) or they will barely light up. however when connected directly to inverter both light up strong and bright (the bad one was dim even directly)... decided to relocate the inverter (thankfully it's G-Vans painted black, even though it's still a blue Logisys under this paint) to intake area and hooked up all of cold cathodes directly to inverters, no more extensions. they finally shine a "bright" black light
 
funny that the short (6'' I think) UV cold cathode of identical design (also Logisys judging by colors of stuff inside it and white wiring), which I find inside of FrozenQ 160mm reservoir can work normally with the CCFL extension wire (that's how I tested those wires before).
probably it has something to do with increased electrical resistance of added length of wire which makes the high voltage too low when reaching the CCFL.
 
either way, it's fixed and I still have 1 spare cathode and 1 spare inverter if needed
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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/02 13:23:28 (permalink)
dude I stalled on sleeving that 24 pin for like a year haha. Im liking the system! Since you arnt using all of your card slots have you ever considered cutting holes for the 240 in the floor of your case and making the RX240 internal?


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Re: My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/02 19:02:03 (permalink)
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dude I stalled on sleeving that 24 pin for like a year haha. Im liking the system! Since you arnt using all of your card slots have you ever considered cutting holes for the 240 in the floor of your case and making the RX240 internal?

 
haha, thanks and I believe you ... honestly it's such a pain in the a$$ to sleeve those PSU wire extensions that I am seriously considering getting NZXT pre-made ones ... did some testing on spare EPS wire extension and I just can't make it work ... even with mdpc-x heatshrink ... obviously my skills suck in this matter ... will try again some other time...
 
there is another 670 in plans for future and moving both of them closer to the floor so no, RX240 will not going to be internal.
 
also, for some time I have been having trouble with PrimoChill's Primoflex tubing ... spent the whole day today on ripping the system apart and flushing all components (except the pump and 360, they are tied tightly together and it's a pin to remove or re-install both of them) ... there seem to be a chemical problem with plasticizer seeping through inner walls of Primoflex tubing .. scrubbed it once already (sponge + soap + stick), but it came back shortly, then used Primochill's System Scrubber chemical additive for 4 days (flushed it out today) and it almost ruined my Raystorm CU block (flushed out some small blobs of blue gel from it) ... I'm so pissed on Primochill ... I will probably swap the tubing for something else in future, just can't find anything decent in the UV Blue department ...
 
do NOT use Primoflex tubing, it's cursed and the manufacturer will deny all fault (like they did for many in OCN), all they can do is sending a sample of "System Scrubber" for use, but it doesn't solve the problem entirely. for now it's good, but still I had to replace 2 badly looking sections of tubing with a new one (for some reason those didn't get "scrubbed").
 
... not to mention, that I found my system to be extremely hard to drain entirely ... had to do it in steps and literally put my system on various sides to flush most of water out ... dang, I'm tired LOL! spent the best part of today on this.

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Re:First water loop diagram (with XSPC kit), is it any good? 2012/09/04 14:28:46 (permalink)
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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/04 15:59:06 (permalink)
so long story short, I ordered 10ft of Feser UV tubing, I trust German quality control and hope they make better quality tubing that can last, free of residue/plasticizer leeching problem. Primochill is on my black list now, sorry, but the tubing which is called Primoflex PRO is a joke and could turn dangerous to the whole loop (contaminating it slowly). I used it only for 6 weeks (distilled water + silver kill coil), so go figure. For now I am using distilled water plus Primochill Utopia (bioagents) instead of silver kill coil until Feser tubing arrives.
 
worth adding that after using the prototype of their "system scrubber" solution (maybe a 5mL bottle of some soapish something), most of residue went away, but I DID scrub it manually once before (piece of small sponge+soap+stick over the sink) and yet not everything got "scrubbed", neither manually nor chemically.
 
the worse part is that this solution liquified or rather gelified some of that residue (in OCN people are sure it's the plasticizers seeping from the tubing walls) and at least it was coming loose (found 2 small blobs of blue gel in my CPU block while flushing it, kinda scary) and yet tiny bubbles of that "gel" were still present on 2 sections of tubing ... sadly I read similar experiences with most "flexible" tubing on the market.
 
here's what I found on different brands (short compilation of my own based on google hits):
-Tygoon - clouding over time
-XSPC - clouding/discoloring (confirmed also by me)
-Primoflex - leeching plasticizers or whatever that is (painfully confirmed)
-Danger Den DreamFlex - again plasticizers problem over time
-Feser - ... so far found only evidence of staining the tubing if dyes are used, but I don't use such, no other negative reviews found, tubing is stiffer than primoflex
-Duralene - seems to be only clear tubing that doesn't get clouded or leeching plasticizers (but is very stiff).
 
example thread from OCN (posted some of my pics there):
http://www.overclock.net/...iscussion-gallery/1250
 
learn from my mistakes. all good now though, but as said, I spend the better part of Sunday on flushing all components (and will do it again before installing new Feser tubes) with hot tap water and/or soap and/or chemicals.
 
hope that helps. sorry for lack of new pics, but I haven't had time to complete the sleeving yet as I share my time between some gaming (trying to finish Fallout New Vegas) and dealing with tubing problems (takes a lot of time).
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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/11 18:33:58 (permalink)
all right, ditched the Primochill Primoflex crap tubing. Now the Feser Active UV Blue is installed ... but my rig is still down
 
why?
1. my CPU went haywire and Intel approved it for RMA, waiting for replacement to get shipped out
 
2. trying to complete sleeving (have done another 8-pin EPS so far!), maybe tonight will finally manage the 24-pin extension ... this one appears to be a little nightmare to do though ...
 
3. ... ordered a few more BP silver compression fittings and 45 & 90 angles, want to do things right as I want them, because currently it a royal PITA to drain my loop, because of how the tubing is routed from RX240 (external) to GPU inlet (goes a litle above level in order to reach the 45-deg fitting on top of GPU - creates a huge problem with draining)... besides decided to leave barbs only at rads (and my pump obviously has plastic barbs), all the rest I want compressed :)
 
Perhaps by the end of week all will be completed and up and running! Stay tuned

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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/11 22:42:53 (permalink)
sleeved the 24-pin! hah! well, no entirely done right, since I have white connectors on the hidden end of all extensions ... and I don't even remove the "hidden" connector for the "right way" of wires heatshrinking (what for, nobody is gonna see it anyways) so it could go inside and around the terminal ... but I am proud of myself anyways he he
 
still, one left to go, but I need to get it first (on order) and that would be the PCI-e extension for SLI power boost (mine is hooked up to socket by slot #1).
 
glad I went with mdpc-x red sleeving (Nils you rock, man!) and their heatshrink! mdpc-x sleeving is just the perfect size for a single braided job while my former favorite Kobra HD is either too thin (1/8'' diameter sucks) or too thick for that kind of job (3/8'' is still great for 2 or 3 wire sleeving, e.g. fans or cold cathode wiring) and mdpc-x heatshrink is awesome, probably the best on the planet, it just works right without melting!
 
now, where is my CPU? Intel? have you forgotten about me?
 
tomorrow will also get the compression fittings and 45 & 90 deg angle adapters for better loop routing, mostly for both, the sake of easier draining and better looks around the drain port.
 
pics will come once all is done
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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/18 09:40:56 (permalink)
Final Z77 FTW build pics (afetr all listed modifications) have been uploaded to my MR profile and posted also in my thread in Mods Rigs forums section, here:
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1583266
 
I wasn't able to solve the excessive CPU temps under load despite the massive upgrades to water cooling I performed. Decided to swap the motherboards in near future to compare results (I suspect some factory defect on my Z77 FTW and thus returning the board soon).

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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/18 13:51:06 (permalink)
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Final Z77 FTW build pics (afetr all listed modifications) have been uploaded to my MR profile and posted also in my thread in Mods Rigs forums section, here:
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1583266

I wasn't able to solve the excessive CPU temps under load despite the massive upgrades to water cooling I performed. Decided to swap the motherboards in near future to compare results (I suspect some factory defect on my Z77 FTW and thus returning the board soon).

Looks great. Surprised you were able to pull that off in that case. Not very watercooling friendly. I myself will no longer buy Primochill, left some weird residue on the outside of my tubing and was bugging the hell out of me. Got DD Tubing instead and so far it's been good. I run a small amount of soap and a kill coil in my loop. Keeps it pretty clean and have yet to have any issues. Would +1, but looks like I already have.

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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2012/09/18 14:13:15 (permalink)
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Looks great. Surprised you were able to pull that off in that case. Not very watercooling friendly. I myself will no longer buy Primochill, left some weird residue on the outside of my tubing and was bugging the hell out of me. Got DD Tubing instead and so far it's been good. I run a small amount of soap and a kill coil in my loop. Keeps it pretty clean and have yet to have any issues. Would +1, but looks like I already have.

 
Thank loveha! ... yeah I think we +1's each other some time ago already hehe
 
Yeah, this whole project wasn't easy at first, yet doable he he ... the whole thing took me a while though to complete
 
Primochill went downhill terribly, I had white/bluish powder residue in tubing after only 6 weeks (distilled water + kill coil), here's what my Primochill's Primoflex UV Blue looked like after I cut one section open:

 
actually, here is an (in)famous OCN thread/discussion about plasticizers leeching in some tubing:
http://www.overclock.net/...ery/1250#post_18003757
I posted there some pics and discussed the issue with other people, this thing comes back (mostly) even after using Primo's Sys Scrubber stuff or even when running distilled water with Primo's Utopia bio-agent... some people tested new sections of this tubing in pure distilled water for 24 hours and it was already covered with that whitish residue ... and yet Primochill denies all fault and always blames the metals in loop, discourages from using silver and blah blah ... they even go as far as publicly denouncing all threads proving the problem and stating openly there is no problem ... idiots ... I believe they think if they deny everything long enough and loud enough then the issues disappears magically...
 
it seems like everybody using Primochill in last year experienced those issues sooner or later (unless they bough a very old batch of tubing that didn't have this problem), some didn't, but those are exceptions, really...
 
It was cleanable, easily coming off with a swipe of wet finger or cotton swab ... I actually cleaned most of this tubing with a sponge + dish soap + hot water + long stick and re-used together with Primochill System Scrubber prototype solution (yeah, I contacted them about it, that's what they sent me in return for free) ... it cleaned or rather liquified ... or rather gelified the residue over 4 days ... and yet it didn't entirely clean off the spots of residue I missed ... not entirely what I expected from that chemical ... well, long story short I found 2 blobs/snots of blue gel (plasticizers?) inside my Raystorm CPU block after I flushed it later with dish soap and hot water ... Primochill never responded to me after I wrote them back about it ... I officially boycott that company. Went with Feser tubing after that experience and so far no trouble

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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2013/03/31 08:53:40 (permalink)
hello feniks. can you show me how can i made the tank like you. thanks so much. your custom watercooling is so great!!
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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2013/03/31 09:09:36 (permalink)
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hello feniks. can you show me how can i made the tank like you. thanks so much. your custom watercooling is so great!!

It's a reservoir you buy, he didn't make that.
http://www.frozencpu.com/...&go.x=0&go.y=0

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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2013/03/31 11:15:29 (permalink)
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hello feniks. can you show me how can i made the tank like you. thanks so much. your custom watercooling is so great!!

 
yeah hehe, if you are talking about that helix reservoir then it is custom made, but not by me. The genius making those is Alex from FQPC, you can order custom stuff through their website, as Frozencpu carries only stock assortment:
http://www.frozenqpcmods.com/   (down for maintenance at the moment)
or check out his Fb fanpage, sometimes they post discount coupons over there:
https://www.facebook.com/frozenqpcmods
 
The rest is just a set of LED lit GPU and CPU blocks and UV reactive blue tubing (Feser Active Blue in pics) that glows under black light cold cathodes.

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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2013/03/31 11:49:31 (permalink)
oh, and since I realized this is my own thread (LOL, I'm slow today), posting a few pics of current setup:


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here is the FQPC Liquid Fusion V2 reservoir (dual color helix with UV tubing and side ports) in daylight, less glow more detail:


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and my recent toy, a full copper Raystorm block with aluminum bracket (no longer LED lit this way), gives more pressure to the block and works better for me on heat trasfer:


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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2013/03/31 18:30:02 (permalink)
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and my recent toy, a full copper Raystorm block with aluminum bracket (no longer LED lit this way), gives more pressure to the block and works better for me on heat trasfer:


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Love it, I could never afford such a block myself. Still sticking with my regular Raystorm block!


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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2013/03/31 19:43:38 (permalink)
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Love it, I could never afford such a block myself. Still sticking with my regular Raystorm block!

 
hehe, thank you :)
I love this piece of hardware, was working amazingly well for me! I think it is the aluminum bracket and new mounting kit making the difference, but the temps went down considerably under load (over 15C improvement), perhaps it was just seated right this time hehe.

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Re:My water loop evolution starting from an XSPC kit 2013/03/31 20:10:04 (permalink)
thanks! oh i just want to ask you one thing more. does raystorm cpu block is good in cooler!
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