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2015/10/13 18:09:50 (permalink)
I don't know if this is a issue or not. Are these cards really that hot with this air cooler?

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 18:26:44 (permalink)
    Sounds like you need to create a custom fan profile.
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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 18:29:27 (permalink)
    Are they sli? If so, you may need better case flow to get air to them.
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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 18:50:24 (permalink)
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    Are they sli? If so, you may need better case flow to get air to them.

    I am using a Corsair 750D. I don't know much more I could do. Two front 140mm fans and two 120mm top fans.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 19:08:17 (permalink)
    its always best to space your SLI cards out and you wont have this problem.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 19:09:47 (permalink)
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    its always best to space your SLI cards out and you wont have this problem.


    There is space, I use the Z77 Sabertooth and they have a 40mm or so gap. The bottom card gets up to around 70C also if that helps.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 19:18:00 (permalink)
    hmm. If there is space, its an airflow issue. Try with the side panel off. If there's a big drop in temps, its an airflow thing.
    If that doesn't do any good, use an aggressive fan profile. If you are overclocking (1500+1.2Xv) it will run warm even with an aggressive fan curve. I'd say you SHOULD expect temps in the high 70s MAYBE low 80s.
     
    Those cards are meant to have the aircoolers ripped off and full WBs put on.
     You can do that and expect temps under 40c with most OC under 1.3v.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 19:20:06 (permalink)
    Might want to try redoing the thermal paste on the card as it may have a bad application.
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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 19:25:58 (permalink)
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    Might want to try redoing the thermal paste on the card as it may have a bad application.


    This is super easy as well. Takes about 30 minutes or so.
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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 19:26:46 (permalink)
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    hmm. If there is space, its an airflow issue. Try with the side panel off. If there's a big drop in temps, its an airflow thing.
    If that doesn't do any good, use an aggressive fan profile. If you are overclocking (1500+1.2Xv) it will run warm even with an aggressive fan curve. I'd say you SHOULD expect temps in the high 70s MAYBE low 80s.
     
    Those cards are meant to have the aircoolers ripped off and full WBs put on.
     You can do that and expect temps under 40c with most OC under 1.3v.


    Don't worry just messing with air till I purchase the second water block. I have plenty of airflow. I used a 780ti sli setup(non ref cards)that was cooler by about 10C. I think I will try a repaste 1st.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 20:01:01 (permalink)
    i use the 300R chassis and I am hard pressed to get anything warmer than 70C in my box
     
    I use Arctic MX-4 for repair of baked video cards, but my current card has a dual fan and it does not run warm at all even with a heavy load like Furmark etc
     
    I have 2x 140mm fans on front which does wonders for inhaling cool air and I have 140mm fans on top to remove heat too
     
    The rear fan is 120mm to allow for room for the IO shield but that fan is assisted by the top fans

      


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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 20:07:32 (permalink)
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    i use the 300R chassis and I am hard pressed to get anything warmer than 70C in my box
     
    I use Arctic MX-4 for repair of baked video cards, but my current card has a dual fan and it does not run warm at all even with a heavy load like Furmark etc
     
    I have 2x 140mm fans on front which does wonders for inhaling cool air and I have 140mm fans on top to remove heat too
     
    The rear fan is 120mm to allow for room for the IO shield but that fan is assisted by the top fans


    What card is it that you have? Like I stated above, my old 780 ti sli setup hit around 74 and the bottom 68 in my 400r and 750D case. This leads me to think the card is the only issue to troubleshoot. I think a repaste of better tim might help.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 20:35:59 (permalink)
    click on mods rigs on my post to see my specs

      


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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/13 23:59:11 (permalink)
    I'm very interested how much repasting will help you.
    I have same issue with my 980ti Classifieds - I need to put priority to 83C in afterburner, so top card is throttling all the time.
    If I put priority to 100% power target than I'm getting 90+ C on top card and safety 100% fan curve is turning on.
     
    I have Fractal Design Define R2 XL with 2x 140 on front, 1x140 back and 4x120 on top mounted on h100i in push/pull mode.
    Even putting all the case fans on 100% is not helping much...
     
    Everyday I'm thinking about switching these cards to Hybrid ones...and new shroud is teasing me more lol
    In the other hand except throttling everything works perfectly fine without any issues and enough framerate reserve for 1440p, so maybe I'll just wait 1 yr for 1080Ti.

     
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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 01:57:59 (permalink)
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    Are they sli? If so, you may need better case flow to get air to them.

    I am using a Corsair 750D. I don't know much more I could do. Two front 140mm fans and two 120mm top fans.


    whats the CFM of your fan's?

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 04:48:02 (permalink)
    last card I repaired was a EVGA GTX 260 SC, which was overheating. Using MX-4 I was able to stabilize the card but shortly after that I bought the GTX 660 Ti FTW Signature 2 which replaced my old GTX 260 SLI setup.
     
    So far the one card has managed to keep its cool even with the most demanding games. I have really come to appreciate the improvements with the dual fan coolers. So much so that I have contempt for single fan cards.

      


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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 05:56:19 (permalink)
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    Are they sli? If so, you may need better case flow to get air to them.

    I am using a Corsair 750D. I don't know much more I could do. Two front 140mm fans and two 120mm top fans.


    whats the CFM of your fan's?


    It's the two 140mm SP fans corsair makes. I think they move air just fine. The top ones are cougar and they move air good too.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 06:03:11 (permalink)
    I have used Evercool fans for a long time, I use a pair of 120mm fans on my CPU cooler and they work well to keep it frosty
     
    Ball bearing fans are expensive but they last longer 
     

      


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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 06:09:17 (permalink)
    Fabric clock on that cards is to high for air cooler.
    They could work but you can't expect silence. Fan need to spin on 80% and you need really big case.
    EVGA should write on box that recommend water cooling, just as their recommendation and customer to decide what they want.
    Even if fan spin on 100% cards will be 75C in first 15-20 mins and than temps will continue to grow side of case will become warmer and warmer and 5 fans are not capable to remove hot air if two 100mm fans spin on 2500RPM with very hot air from them. 
    If you put hands behind reference cards you need to move hand even on 75-80C because heat.
    Much more heat come from non reference overclocked cards only you can't feel that but hot air stay in case and ambient temps start to grow fast.
    Opened side panel is more efficient than 10 best case fans in same time. Case fans help to motherboard temps stay lower for few degrees, RAM to be cool, to cool down heatsinks but with graphic cards can't help at all. They spin on 1000-1500RPM,  fans on GPU spin on 2500+RPM and blow heat on all sides. 
     

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 06:24:29 (permalink)
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    Fabric clock on that cards is to high for air cooler.
    They could work but you can't expect silence. Fan need to spin on 80% and you need really big case.
    EVGA should write on box that recommend water cooling, just as their recommendation and customer to decide what they want.
    Even if fan spin on 100% cards will be 75C in first 15-20 mins and than temps will continue to grow side of case will become warmer and warmer and 5 fans are not capable to remove hot air if two 100mm fans spin on 2500RPM with very hot air from them. 
    If you put hands behind reference cards you need to move hand even on 75-80C because heat.
    Much more heat come from non reference overclocked cards only you can't feel that but hot air stay in case and ambient temps start to grow fast.
    Opened side panel is more efficient than 10 best case fans in same time. Case fans help to motherboard temps stay lower for few degrees, RAM to be cool, to cool down heatsinks but with graphic cards can't help at all. They spin on 1000-1500RPM,  fans on GPU spin on 2500+RPM and blow heat on all sides. 
     




    I think the GTX 980, GTX 980 Ti and GTX Titan X all need dual fan coolers or possibly 3 fan coolers to be able to deal with the 250-300W thermal load imposed
     
    My old HD 6970 has a aftermarket cooler rated at 300W which is needed as that card can use 267W at stock speeds and overclocked its even worse

      


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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 07:05:29 (permalink)
    GTX980 don't need nothing. She could work and reference card on 70C. That's mid range chip with 180W power consumption.
    But all cards with power consumption around 250W and more need some kind of liquid cooling for long gaming. Dual cooler could cooldown card on benchtable. In that situation is excellent. But in closed area after some time best dual and triple cooler become ineffective after some time because fan need cold air to cooldown chip and inside case is hot after some time. That mean Hybrid or Hydro Copper for overclocked models, or bench table, or open case. 

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 07:10:38 (permalink)
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    It's the two 140mm SP fans corsair makes. I think they move air just fine. The top ones are cougar and they move air good too.


    You should get AF140 fans. Sp fans are meant for radiators, so if they are open aor, you are losing tons of potential air flow. AF fans are meant for just showing large amounts of air through a case.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 07:56:38 (permalink)
    I bought Twin Pack AF120 White LED and I'm surprised with silence and their performance, LED is nice as well.
    They optimized him exactly for people who love silence. He spin on 1500RPM and I think on 1600RPM people will hear just little noise.
    Now nothing. CORSAIR AF140 spin on little slower speed 1200RPM but surface is bigger. I have no place for them, and 1200RPM is to low for my taste.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 08:09:38 (permalink)
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    I bought Twin Pack AF120 White LED and I'm surprised with silence and their performance, LED is nice as well.
    They optimized him exactly for people who love silence. He spin on 1500RPM and I think on 1600RPM people will hear just little noise.
    Now nothing. CORSAIR AF140 spin on little slower speed 1200RPM but surface is bigger. I have no place for them, and 1200RPM is to low for my taste.


    I just sprung for those myself from Amazon. Hopefully they will be quieter than the Cougar Vortex fans I am using right now.
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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 09:03:20 (permalink)
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    It's the two 140mm SP fans corsair makes. I think they move air just fine. The top ones are cougar and they move air good too.


    You should get AF140 fans. Sp fans are meant for radiators, so if they are open aor, you are losing tons of potential air flow. AF fans are meant for just showing large amounts of air through a case.

    Sp140 - 49.49 CFM - Static Pressure 1.46 mm/H20

    Af140 - 67.8 CFM - Static Pressure .84 mm/H20

    My bad, they are AF140 fans.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 09:35:58 (permalink)
    Those cards exhaust inside the case, a side panel fan should help you exhaust some of that heat and lower the temps. Did you try removing the side panel and test temps under load?
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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 10:37:51 (permalink)
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    Those cards exhaust inside the case, a side panel fan should help you exhaust some of that heat and lower the temps. Did you try removing the side panel and test temps under load?
    Yeah that was with the side panel off. I am scared of it being put on lol.

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 11:13:31 (permalink)
    too much tim on the cooler, pull it off and check, guaranteed!

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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 11:20:02 (permalink)
    my video card is 150W more or less but EVGA overclocked it like mad
     
    Some if the air from my dual fan cooler is dumped back into the chassis, but the air flow in box is more than up to the task
     
    Even with Furmark, my card does not get very warm. I should mention that while I have used power pig cards, I find that my GTX 660 Ti is plenty powerful enough to play any title
     

      


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    Re: My top card(Kingpin 980 ti)is hitting 87C in 100% load situations 2015/10/14 14:58:49 (permalink)
    All your problems can be solved@ http://www.ekwb.com

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