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2016/09/24 22:37:32 (permalink)
As you can in the attached file, my memory speed is exactly half of what EVGA reports that this card should read a memory default settings, of 8008 Mhz.  Can somebody explain this?  Is this a clear warranty issue of a defective memory controller?



 
 
 
What does your FTW 1070 show as default Memory Speed?
 
 
 

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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/24 22:40:19 (permalink)
     
    x2 gives you your 8008.  DDR= Double Data Rate.

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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/24 22:48:02 (permalink)
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    x2 gives you your 8008.  DDR= Double Data Rate.




    Firstly, thank you for your response!  So you are saying my card is alright...and that DDR kicks in upon actual usage?  I have seen other reporting masks show as the full 8008 reporting, when polled.  So...for my non-technical self...we are good? 
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/24 23:00:13 (permalink)
     
    Try GPU-Z and see what you get there.  https://www.techpowerup.c...hpowerup-gpu-z-v1-11-0
     
    You should see the same numbers. Also, yes the numbers show one, as opposed to two, thus cutting in half the data rate of the memory. Hope that helps.
     
     
     

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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/24 23:39:15 (permalink)
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    Try GPU-Z and see what you get there. 
     
    You should see the same numbers. Also, yes the numbers show one, as opposed to two, thus cutting in half the data rate of the memory. Hope that helps.
     
     
     




    Thank you...downloaded and installed...the GPUZ crashes in that is says it cannot run the Open GL library...  Using W10.  So, basically, you are saying that all is well.  My card is running fine, right?  :)  If it is reporting with my tool that runs...4004, then I am actually getting the double bandwidth of 8008 when in use?  Other than my not seeing the figure of an actual 8008 Mhz on my working reporting tool...the card seems to be running fine.
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 00:35:37 (permalink)
    Damm, is my card broken when i only get 2002MHz mem clock
     


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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 01:04:08 (permalink)
    I can't even get GPU-Z to run!  I have W10 Pro, and when trying to run, the program crashes with the window that it can't run its Open GL Library...and then asks to send a crash report 'back home'.
     
    When running my latest EVGA  Precision X Overclock program...within my games, the Memory readout ONLY always shows slightly higher than 4004...it never reads anything near 8008, so inside a game, it looks like the DDR is not kicked in.  
     
    Can anybody show me a screen capture of what their PXO is showing while in game play?
     
    That would help.
     
    There is nothing wrong with my system...but for some reason...unless nobody else can show an actual figure from a reporting tool, of what EVGA publishes as their card does run at...that being a Memory Speed of 8008 Mhz...then I need to look deeper into this.  
     
    If someone from EVGA is reading this...please step in and explain why I don't see the DDR freq...being reported...and WHERE can you make sure you ARE getting the published performance.  I do get the published GPU clock speed...and reported with the EVGA PXO software...but ONLY 4004-4011 Mhz displays for the Memory Controller.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 01:14:03 (permalink)
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    Damm, is my card broken when i only get 2002MHz mem clock
     
    I dunno...something seems really screwy, huh?  Mine reports 4004, and yours reports only 2002?!?!?
     
    What does (in the top left corner of your screen) the readout for EVGA Precision X overclock report for your top Memory Mhz speed?  Mine never reports anything much over the reported 4004 in my CPU-Z tool of which runs fine on my system.  GPU-Z crashes.
     
     





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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 02:01:48 (permalink)
    Just thought to post the readout of my Precision X OC running within the game.
    Folks..just want to understand, does this look right?
    The Memory Clock MHz being reported?  My FPS are locked at 33 by myself, just in case you're wondering why they are in this range.
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 02:06:14 (permalink)
    You misunderstand DDR. It is not something that kicks in. It just is. You are fine, the Double Data Rate is just how it is supposed to be. Your card is fine.

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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 02:09:12 (permalink)
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    You misunderstand DDR. It is not something that kicks in. It just is. You are fine, the Double Data Rate is just how it is supposed to be. Your card is fine.

    Loveha is correct. Your card is fine.

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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 02:50:37 (permalink)
    loveha
    You misunderstand DDR. It is not something that kicks in. It just is. You are fine, the Double Data Rate is just how it is supposed to be. Your card is fine.



    Ok...then case closed.  I see now what you are telling me...the card has a base memory rate of 4004, but is being accessed on the up and down cycle of the bus clock...so in fact, you see a doubling, or 8008 MHz in the pipeline.  Now I understand why it doesn't 'read' as the 8008 figure in the reporting tools. The tool doesn't report the actual up/down cycle of the bus...
     
    Thank you...now I can relax and just enjoy this great card.  Thanks again!
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 02:52:01 (permalink)
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    You misunderstand DDR. It is not something that kicks in. It just is. You are fine, the Double Data Rate is just how it is supposed to be. Your card is fine.

    Loveha is correct. Your card is fine.


    Thanks for your post. :)  Now I can just enjoy and not feel there might be something wrong with the hardware. (the card).
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 03:28:55 (permalink)
    DDR is sort of tricky in that.

    Originally RAM read only at the "top of the the clock" as the gate swung it would read only when the gate was in the "fully open" position.

    DDR found it was better to read during the "rise and fall" of the clock or while the gate is "opening and closing".

    So when comparing the entry into DDR it was still a 133mhz clock but was read twice for every tick so they called it DDR266mhz.

    As well as doubling the positions in which a read/write is active it's more fluid to move data in a working state rather than at the pause
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 03:32:58 (permalink)
    Thanks for everybody's input...very much appreciated. Very!
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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 03:47:41 (permalink)
     
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    Try GPU-Z and see what you get there. 
     
    You should see the same numbers. Also, yes the numbers show one, as opposed to two, thus cutting in half the data rate of the memory. Hope that helps.
     
     



     So, basically, you are saying that all is well.  My card is running fine, right?  :) 


     
     
    Yes, I was saying your card is fine.     =)

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    Re: My EVGA FTW 1070 Memory bandwidth only reports at half the published speed... 2016/09/25 05:09:15 (permalink)
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     Try GPU-Z and see what you get there.  https://www.techpowerup.c...hpowerup-gpu-z-v1-11-0
     
    You should see the same numbers. Also, yes the numbers show one, as opposed to two, thus cutting in half the data rate of the memory. Hope that helps.
     



    Got reason why GPU-Z says 2002MHz and not 4004MHz for memory speed? It should read 4004MHz?
    MSi afterburner shows 4008MHz.
     
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