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I decided to buy a cheap temperature gun (Ryobi IR002, Home Depot) and test my card to see what kind of temps I was getting after the new BIOS: After running 20 minutes of the latest Furmark release, I started taking measurements while the stress test was still running. -Highest reading I could get from the back of the board was 84C. (83.9) No thermal pads. Just the new BIOS. Just thought I would share this for others who have non-back-plate boards. Edit: will post pics once photobucket is done with their "maintainance". This is 20 minutes into Furmark and still running. It only seems to let me use one photo, so here is the hottest measurement I found anywhere on the card: 
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 13:54:13
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How loud is the card now? I have the same card and was so happy with how quite it was.
Just a bit more and you can boil water. ^_^
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 13:57:21
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How loud is the card now? I have the same card and was so happy with how quite it was.
Just a bit more and you can boil water. ^_^
I think my dual-fan CPU liquid cooler makes more noise when gaming. My 780 with the standard blower motor was a LOT louder. So the card isn't as quiet as it was, but it's still a pretty quiet card. Although my case has good air-flow, I hear Furmark is the worst possible thing you can ask of your GPU, so I'm very happy with the results, I really think the cards with back plates and no pads are the hottest ones.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 14:09:36
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Thanks for the quick reply and good info!! ^_^
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z1nonly
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 14:40:53
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FWIW, The gun has an accuracy rating of +/- 5 degrees And I think it was reading on the high side.
Every time I shot the GPU I was reading a few degrees higher than the number displayed on-screen from the built-in sensor.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 15:16:23
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Still to high....if the back of the board is already at almost 90c, the actual VRMs are running well over 100c+
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 15:19:00
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These cheap guns are quite inaccurate. Tomshardware used a thermal camera thats worth 4k€. I doubt a lot of people have such a camera at home, tho.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 15:55:37
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Still to high....if the back of the board is already at almost 90c, the actual VRMs are running well over 100c+
Um, no. The internal GPU sensor was showing 68 and when I shot the back of the card right where the GPU is located....The gun was reading temps in the low 70's. So, while the accuracy of the gun may be in question, it consistently showed GPU temps a little higher than the reading the internal sensor was sending to software. I suppose you could argue that the GPU sensor was ALSO faulty and reading very low, or that the area on the PCB behind the GPU does the opposite of what the rest of the PCB does, or that the gun was changing calibration from reading high over the GPU to reading crazy low behind the VRM's, chokes, and VRAM chips....every single time I alternately read the different areas? But none of those scenarios are likely.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 16:01:27
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These cheap guns are quite inaccurate. Tomshardware used a thermal camera thats worth 4k€. I doubt a lot of people have such a camera at home, tho.
I agree. That's why I measured the back of the GPU with the gun and compared the gun's measurement to the internal sensor's readout. Gun measurement on the back of the board was inaccurately high compared to the internal sensor on the GPU. (Even then it was close enough to know that I don't need to freak out about my VRM or VRAM temps.) I didn't check, but I don't recall Tom's test showing any great discrepancy between GPU's internal sensor and their FLIR readings.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/04 17:41:17
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The back of the card will always be hotter than the front.
Why? The HSF is on the front, not the back.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 00:14:33
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The back of the card will always be hotter than the front.
Why? The HSF is on the front, not the back.
Thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. The heat generation is in the front (by the components) of the card and then transfers to the back. The back will always be cooler than the front as it is insulated by the PCB. This is simple thermal dynamics...
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 02:43:12
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Guess you missed posts 8 and 9?
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 07:48:43
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arestavo
The back of the card will always be hotter than the front.
Why? The HSF is on the front, not the back.
Thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. The heat generation is in the front (by the components) of the card and then transfers to the back. The back will always be cooler than the front as it is insulated by the PCB. This is simple thermal dynamics...
Try getting your own IR gun and testing. You might just learn the truth. My VRMs read 40C at the front, and 60C at the back of the card at the solder joints sticking out. Yet according to you that's the most ridiculous thing that you've ever heard. Guess what? It's fact, right there in front of me, me boyo. I didn't bother with the GPU die, but it is likely the same since the GPU die sensor reads 39C at most in Afterburner. (Kraken X41 AIO cooler with a Kraken G10 bracket on my 1080 ACX 3.0 card at 2202/5557 looping Valley)
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 11:03:50
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 11:37:03
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arestavo
The back of the card will always be hotter than the front.
Why? The HSF is on the front, not the back.
Thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. The heat generation is in the front (by the components) of the card and then transfers to the back. The back will always be cooler than the front as it is insulated by the PCB. This is simple thermal dynamics...
Try getting your own IR gun and testing. You might just learn the truth.
My VRMs read 40C at the front, and 60C at the back of the card at the solder joints sticking out. Yet according to you that's the most ridiculous thing that you've ever heard. Guess what? It's fact, right there in front of me, me boyo.
I didn't bother with the GPU die, but it is likely the same since the GPU die sensor reads 39C at most in Afterburner. (Kraken X41 AIO cooler with a Kraken G10 bracket on my 1080 ACX 3.0 card at 2202/5557 looping Valley)
Why are you even posting here when you're using a 3rd party water cooling solution? We're talking about the ACX 3.0 setup, not custom water cooling. All information you provide here is irrelevant.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 11:41:26
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Lol, I just noticed OP isnt even taking temp readings of the VRMs, as you can clearly see he's taking reading of the VRAM. Quite funny. If the VRAM is running at 83c then the VRMs are well over 100c+ easily. He's 1.5 inches AWAY from the VRMs and as we see in other thermal spectrum pics, the VRM section is significantly hotter than the VRAM area.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 11:52:07
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Lol, indeed. -Starting to suspect a troll.... I noted that I could only post a single pic in my OP. (Not sure why) So I posted the hottest reading I could get off of the card while it ran Furmark (20 minutes at this point) I measured temps all over that card. I did not feel like taking pics of every square centimeter of the card. the readings I took pics of are THE HOTTEST TEMPS FOUND....ANYWHERE on my card. (Other than the GPU which was in the low 70's...but that has a built in sensor so...)
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 12:00:32
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arestavo
The back of the card will always be hotter than the front.
Why? The HSF is on the front, not the back.
Thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. The heat generation is in the front (by the components) of the card and then transfers to the back. The back will always be cooler than the front as it is insulated by the PCB. This is simple thermal dynamics...
Try getting your own IR gun and testing. You might just learn the truth.
My VRMs read 40C at the front, and 60C at the back of the card at the solder joints sticking out. Yet according to you that's the most ridiculous thing that you've ever heard. Guess what? It's fact, right there in front of me, me boyo.
I didn't bother with the GPU die, but it is likely the same since the GPU die sensor reads 39C at most in Afterburner. (Kraken X41 AIO cooler with a Kraken G10 bracket on my 1080 ACX 3.0 card at 2202/5557 looping Valley)
Why are you even posting here when you're using a 3rd party water cooling solution? We're talking about the ACX 3.0 setup, not custom water cooling. All information you provide here is irrelevant.
So only the ACX cooler has a front side and a backside of the PCB? Your assertion that the measurements taken from the back of a card are ~20 degrees cooler than the temps on the components/other side of the card simply falls apart when tested.
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Re: My 1070 SC Black Edition (5173) Thermal testing with new BIOS
2016/11/05 12:12:19
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^ Yeap.
10 to 1 he comes back and trolls more, even with the proof slapping him in the face.
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