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2016/07/21 15:02:54 (permalink)
 
Can't believe yet another shooting, and this one by all appearances was completely uncalled for. CNN has the story with some video.
 
If you aren't aware what happened, someone called the police saying there was a man with a gun in the middle of the road, so understandably cops were on alert and being extra cautious (particularly in light of what has been going on recently), BUT when they got there, the man with a "gun" turned out to be an autistic guy with a TOY TRUCK sitting in the middle of the road having an episode, and with him was a behavior therapist from the group home trying to calm the autistic guy down.
 
When the cops arrive, the therapist gets on the ground, laying on his back with his hands in the air, and repeatedly tells cops who he is and what the situation is and that neither of them are armed and the autistic guy is holding a toy truck. This is all on video. This goes on for several minutes, neither of them make any sudden moves, then totally out of the blue one of the cops just opens fire on the therapist for no reason!
 
The therapist was shot in the leg once.
 
At first I thought it must have been an accident with a hair trigger, but no, there were allegedly 2 to 3 shots fired - that's no accident.
 
When the therapist asked the cop why he shot him, the cop replied, "I don't know."
 
Holy crap! Worse yet, they them handcuffed him and left him laying there bleeding for 20 minutes before an ambulance arrived.
 
That cop better go to freaking jail, that is just totally wrong.
 
 


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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/21 16:05:03 (permalink)
    Maybe he will say he thought it was a training exercise, worked for NORAD with 9/11..

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/21 16:08:53 (permalink)
    That is so sad. That officer needs to be arrested now and charged. But, nope. He is resting comfortably at home getting paid while watching the news about this. This is exactly why people get angry and raise hell. I am sure the excuse will be he pulled the trigger by accident. 

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/21 16:42:16 (permalink)
    The way cops shoot I'm glad that someone didn't get shot......By the here in so cal I use the range that they use to practice the fine art shooting......most of the time they get a can't get good group at 30 ft....got to love it......by the way it is most not just a few, wander if they would any with paint guns.

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/21 17:35:48 (permalink)
    I myself being part conspirator, I'm willing to believe that there was more behind this besides a cop "accidentally" shooting a therapist. I'm wondering if this cop was "paid" by the BLM to do something totally asinine, that being what we have seen happen.
     
    You have to agree with me that something is up if the cop responds with "I dont' know", looks to have been staged... I don't buy it. It looks to me that the cop was paid by someone.
     
     
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/21 19:23:53 (permalink)
    I just think it was stupidity. Police are under a lot of pressure ,but there is no excuse for that. He needs to go. 
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/21 19:52:01 (permalink)
     
    LOL apparently the cop has now claimed that he was trying to shoot the autistic guy because he thought the therapist (Charles Kinsey) was in danger.. lmao, really??? If that was true, then why did he then handcuff the therapist and leave him laying there on the ground bleeding for 20 minutes?
     
    Saw this on twitter: The 911 call stated there was an unstable man with a gun. Turns out they were right, the man also had a badge.. 
     
     
     
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/22 04:20:15 (permalink)
    I hate to be a conspiracy person but this all smells of set ups to me..*shrug*
     
    The cop should most definitely be arrested....I can't *accidentally* shoot someone and get away with it.
    They shouldn't be able to either.
     

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/22 05:31:16 (permalink)
    It all comes down to how law enforcement are trained and held accountable. I think all new police recruits should go the first year without carrying any lethal force on them. The training officer should be only one allowed to carry lethal force. That way the recruit leans to use other skills instead of reaching for gun if someone fails to comply.
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/22 05:37:32 (permalink)
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    LOL apparently the cop has now claimed that he was trying to shoot the autistic guy because he thought the therapist (Charles Kinsey) was in danger.. lmao, really??? If that was true, then why did he then handcuff the therapist and leave him laying there on the ground bleeding for 20 minutes?
     
    Saw this on twitter: The 911 call stated there was an unstable man with a gun. Turns out they were right, the man also had a badge.. 
     
     
     


    If I just shot someone by accident or on purpose I would handcuff him too 'cause he's gonna be mad!
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/22 05:57:37 (permalink)
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    I myself being part conspirator, I'm willing to believe that there was more behind this besides a cop "accidentally" shooting a therapist. I'm wondering if this cop was "paid" by the BLM to do something totally asinine, that being what we have seen happen.
     
    You have to agree with me that something is up if the cop responds with "I dont' know", looks to have been staged... I don't buy it. It looks to me that the cop was paid by someone.
     
     




    I was honestly thinking the same exact thing. Either these cops have the WORST training ever or someone is paying cops to do this to minorities. It makes sense that groups like BLM would want to fuel the hatred towards cops, especially if you factor in other conspiracies that George Soros funds BLM etc. I hate to believe conspiracies but jesus, if I was a cop I would want to avoid shooting a minority AT ALL POSSIBLE, especially in a situation like this one where excessive force is obviously not needed. All the hate mail, trials, death threats is something I would not want to deal with at all. Talk about committing career suicide. It just does not add up.
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/22 06:03:15 (permalink)
    I expect my PD to be well trained and proficient with firearms. I expect them to hit their target on the first shot. Too many time I see Phillly PD involved in shootouts and they hit the suspect 2 or 3 times after expending over 38 rounds. Totally surprised there aren't other casualties as in 'Collateral Damage'.
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/22 22:00:14 (permalink)
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    I expect my PD to be well trained and proficient with firearms. I expect them to hit their target on the first shot. Too many time I see Phillly PD involved in shootouts and they hit the suspect 2 or 3 times after expending over 38 rounds. Totally surprised there aren't other casualties as in 'Collateral Damage'.


    Depends what weapon they are using - handguns are notoriously inaccurate if not at close range.
     


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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/23 03:42:28 (permalink)
    Internet justice is the worst justice.
     
     
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/23 04:46:12 (permalink)
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    I expect my PD to be well trained and proficient with firearms. I expect them to hit their target on the first shot. Too many time I see Phillly PD involved in shootouts and they hit the suspect 2 or 3 times after expending over 38 rounds. Totally surprised there aren't other casualties as in 'Collateral Damage'.


    Depends what weapon they are using - handguns are notoriously inaccurate if not at close range.
     


    IDK, I guess it just depends on how much you practice and whether you let the stress of the situation effect you. Shooting at a range is a lot different than a street standoff, I think since I've never been in one of those. I had a S&W Model 19-5 .357 Magnum that was dead on. Never had to use it in a life or death situation with other distractions moving around me like civilians and vehicles.
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/23 12:06:35 (permalink)
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    I expect my PD to be well trained and proficient with firearms. I expect them to hit their target on the first shot. Too many time I see Phillly PD involved in shootouts and they hit the suspect 2 or 3 times after expending over 38 rounds. Totally surprised there aren't other casualties as in 'Collateral Damage'.


    Well your expectation is too high. Police shooting standards aren't all that strict. Most officers are "average" shooters at best, which means gun nuts are typically better shots than your average officer. Once you throw a stressful situation in the mix, it takes serious skill, training, stress management, and concentration to have any chance of getting a decent shot on someone. Shooting at a range is NO COMPARISON AT ALL to an actual firefight. Hard to focus on getting a good shot when someone else is shooting back. Also, officers typically don't even notice how many rounds they fire in these situations. You can ask an officer after the incident and he may remember shooting 2 or 3 times, but in reality, he shot 15 times. You just can't comprehend how badly high stress situations affect people until you have it happen to you. Training helps, but it never replicates the real thing.

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/23 14:22:19 (permalink)
    The response of the officer and how arrogant he is being about it. I just have no words. Its scary. For a start. The hit was a misfire and actually meant for the autistic person. WOW! Basically he has zero regrets and believes he was saving a life that was possibly endanger. They are also starting to stick up for this officer. His police department including the big boss.   

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/23 14:25:12 (permalink)
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    The response of the officer and how arrogant he is being about it. I just have no words. Its scary. For a start. The hit was a misfire and actually meant for the autistic person. WOW! Basically he has zero regrets and believes he was saving a life that was possibly endanger. They are also starting to stick up for this officer. His police department including the big boss.   


    You missed the part where the COP still left the therapist handcuffed and let him bleed out until the ambulance arrived, yet he says he meant to shoot the autistic person.
    Again, completely staged.

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/24 10:42:22 (permalink)
    They will probably end up promoting that officer as job well done.
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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/24 16:30:02 (permalink)
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    I hate to be a conspiracy person but this all smells of set ups to me..*shrug*
     
    The cop should most definitely be arrested....I can't *accidentally* shoot someone and get away with it.
    They shouldn't be able to either.
     


    I did think it was strange how the video stopped just at the point before he was shot, and started up again just after...  unless it was edited out by police / news.
     
    Same thing happened when that guy opened up on the police in Dallas; someone taking video was filming the shooter for some time, and then stopped just before a cop is shot point blank, and starts up again a minute or so after.
     
     


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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/24 17:10:23 (permalink)
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    Same thing happened when that guy opened up on the police in Dallas; someone taking video was filming the shooter for some time, and then stopped just before a cop is shot point blank, and starts up again a minute or so after.

    I can assure you that is not the case. I am pretty sure posting the video would break TOS, so you can PM me if you want a direct link, but if you search "dallas cop shooting" on Youtube, it's the first result, hosted by Associated Press.

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/24 19:22:48 (permalink)
    delete.
    post edited by stalinx20 - 2016/07/24 20:38:34

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    Re: Miami shooting by cop.. insane 2016/07/24 20:27:08 (permalink)
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    Same thing happened when that guy opened up on the police in Dallas; someone taking video was filming the shooter for some time, and then stopped just before a cop is shot point blank, and starts up again a minute or so after.

    I can assure you that is not the case. I am pretty sure posting the video would break TOS, so you can PM me if you want a direct link, but if you search "dallas cop shooting" on Youtube, it's the first result, hosted by Associated Press.


    Ok yup I saw it now, presumably it was edited out on CNN.
     


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