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2015/05/12 18:44:08 (permalink)
Good evening. I Just recently purchased GTA V and at first it was playing perfectly. 1080p 60FPS. A day later I was playing and I noticed the FPS dropping from locked 60 all the way to 45 and fluctuating back and forth. For 2 days it did the same thing. I also noticed recently when I played nba 2k15 it would do the same thing. At one point it played 60fps no problem no drop. But I stopped really playing out of being busy and frustrated with the random performance.
I took a day or two off and bought some duster and cleaned my pc out and made sure any wires were out of the way and everything. I turned it on booted GTA and it was sitting at 30FPS. the lowest thus far. I even ran a 3dmark benchmark and went from 13297 when the 780ti first released to 8300 today. That is a big drop. I do not know what is going on.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/12 18:50:19 (permalink)
    Make sure you didn't accidentally disconnect any wires, or your ram, or anything like that. That can cause performance drop if something isn't getting enough power.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/12 18:56:55 (permalink)
    I checked. everything is plugged up no problem. it is acting like a female. One day it was playing no problem the next day it was acting up. well not performing the way i should. 
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/12 18:59:42 (permalink)
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    I checked. everything is plugged up no problem. it is acting like a female. One day it was playing no problem the next day it was acting up. well not performing the way i should. 


    So uncool
    I would say it is more like a man and cannot perform anymore.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/12 19:08:41 (permalink)
    60, 45, 30... you have adaptive vsync enabled. What is your GPU core temperature, GPU core speed, GPU memory speed, and PCI-E lane width?
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/12 19:37:35 (permalink)
    I just installed the 350 evga drivers. I started gta and was Playing at 60FPS for a good 20 mins. left out a online mission and boom it jumped to 30fps. this is so frustrating especially with the witcher 3 about to come out. 
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/12 19:38:38 (permalink)
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    60, 45, 30... you have adaptive vsync enabled. What is your GPU core temperature, GPU core speed, GPU memory speed, and PCI-E lane width?



    i always have vsync enabled. How do I find out the GPU temp speed and memory speed while playing or does it matter?
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/12 20:00:20 (permalink)
    Download GPU-Z (techpowerup.com) and you can monitor through there.  
     
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 06:59:43 (permalink)
    I am having a similar problem. I ran 3d mark 11 last weekend and it kept crashing when overclocked. I installed a earlier none game ready driver and boom it worked just fine. Try installing a earlier version Nvidia driver see if you have different results. Try the 347.88 I had good luck with this driver. I have a 780 ti KingPin.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 11:09:16 (permalink)
    Check all your hardware for overheating. Try the last few released driver sets to see if they all have the same issue.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 16:35:29 (permalink)
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    Download GPU-Z (techpowerup.com) and you can monitor through there.  
     


    Thank you.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 16:41:20 (permalink)
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    I am having a similar problem. I ran 3d mark 11 last weekend and it kept crashing when overclocked. I installed a earlier none game ready driver and boom it worked just fine. Try installing a earlier version Nvidia driver see if you have different results. Try the 347.88 I had good luck with this driver. I have a 780 ti KingPin.

    Trying that now. Thanks
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 16:45:51 (permalink)
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    60, 45, 30... you have adaptive vsync enabled. What is your GPU core temperature, GPU core speed, GPU memory speed, and PCI-E lane width?



    Right now not playing or anything Temperature 70 C, Core clock- 1137.1 MHz, memory clock-1749.6 MHz
    using GPU-Z
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 16:58:42 (permalink)
    What model card is this does it have a LN2 bios? Are you overclocking this card with precision X and due you have Kboost enabled? The core clock and memory clock speeds are high along with the temperature.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 18:03:45 (permalink)
    I am using the 347.88 drivers and the framerate was at 60. The only problem is there was like these  lines across my characters face and pants. Dont know what was up. Maybe because this is a driver released before gta V. 

    https://www.dropbox.com/s...2020-03-20-94.bmp?dl=0
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 18:06:47 (permalink)
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    What model card is this does it have a LN2 bios? Are you overclocking this card with precision X and due you have Kboost enabled? The core clock and memory clock speeds are high along with the temperature.


    No sir I am not overclocking with precision X. I messed around with that a while back but never saved and clicked default. I do not have or know what Kboost is. my model is EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked w/ EVGA ACX C. Since I used an older driver my clock speed and temp is down dramatically. 

    core clock 324 mhz
    mem clock 162 mhz
    temp 30 C
     
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 18:43:48 (permalink)
    Sounds like thermal throttling to me. Have you tried using MSI Afterburner (or PrecisionX, which has problems) to set a custom fan profile? I've got two 780 Ti's, and they start thermal throttling at 80C, so I set my fans to spin up to 100% at 80C.
     
    And if that doesn't work out, it may very well be a driver issue or you might be hitting near 3GB VRAM usage. Try turning off adaptive VSYNC, or if you refuse to do that, turn down some a couple settings to see if that helps.
     
    Remember also that different areas in games can affect FPS more than others. And, the whole point of adaptive VYSNC is to not automatically drop FPS to 30 like regular VSYNC, but rather 45 and then 30 - so your system is technically doing what you set it up to do.
    post edited by arestavo - 2015/05/13 18:48:45
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 19:15:34 (permalink)
    That looks much better. Back to normal!
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    What model card is this does it have a LN2 bios? Are you overclocking this card with precision X and due you have Kboost enabled? The core clock and memory clock speeds are high along with the temperature.


    No sir I am not overclocking with precision X. I messed around with that a while back but never saved and clicked default. I do not have or know what Kboost is. my model is EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked w/ EVGA ACX C. Since I used an older driver my clock speed and temp is down dramatically. 

    core clock 324 mhz
    mem clock 162 mhz
    temp 30 C
     




     
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 19:18:08 (permalink)
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    Sounds like thermal throttling to me. Have you tried using MSI Afterburner (or PrecisionX, which has problems) to set a custom fan profile? I've got two 780 Ti's, and they start thermal throttling at 80C, so I set my fans to spin up to 100% at 80C.
     
    And if that doesn't work out, it may very well be a driver issue or you might be hitting near 3GB VRAM usage. Try turning off adaptive VSYNC, or if you refuse to do that, turn down some a couple settings to see if that helps.
     
    Remember also that different areas in games can affect FPS more than others. And, the whole point of adaptive VYSNC is to not automatically drop FPS to 30 like regular VSYNC, but rather 45 and then 30 - so your system is technically doing what you set it up to do.


    The settings was never an issue. Its like everything is working perfectly fine one day. And the next day on the same settings it starts performing wrong. Its like taking a car for a drive and doing 100MPH. the next day You do the same exact drive but its stalling at 70MPH. 
    Like I said same set up same card but lower benchmarks. Same game but lower fps. I just switched the drivers from i believe latest 350 to the 347. i played nba and no slow down and i played gta v with no slow down just the weird lines on his face. I will check out the msi afterburner though. thanks for your suggestions i greatly appreciate it. 
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 20:03:10 (permalink)
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    Sounds like thermal throttling to me. Have you tried using MSI Afterburner (or PrecisionX, which has problems) to set a custom fan profile? I've got two 780 Ti's, and they start thermal throttling at 80C, so I set my fans to spin up to 100% at 80C.
     
    And if that doesn't work out, it may very well be a driver issue or you might be hitting near 3GB VRAM usage. Try turning off adaptive VSYNC, or if you refuse to do that, turn down some a couple settings to see if that helps.
     
    Remember also that different areas in games can affect FPS more than others. And, the whole point of adaptive VYSNC is to not automatically drop FPS to 30 like regular VSYNC, but rather 45 and then 30 - so your system is technically doing what you set it up to do.


    The settings was never an issue. Its like everything is working perfectly fine one day. And the next day on the same settings it starts performing wrong. Its like taking a car for a drive and doing 100MPH. the next day You do the same exact drive but its stalling at 70MPH. 
    Like I said same set up same card but lower benchmarks. Same game but lower fps. I just switched the drivers from i believe latest 350 to the 347. i played nba and no slow down and i played gta v with no slow down just the weird lines on his face. I will check out the msi afterburner though. thanks for your suggestions i greatly appreciate it. 



     
    Lines on face are probably due to a game/driver issue.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 20:05:09 (permalink)
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    Sounds like thermal throttling to me. Have you tried using MSI Afterburner (or PrecisionX, which has problems) to set a custom fan profile? I've got two 780 Ti's, and they start thermal throttling at 80C, so I set my fans to spin up to 100% at 80C.
     
    And if that doesn't work out, it may very well be a driver issue or you might be hitting near 3GB VRAM usage. Try turning off adaptive VSYNC, or if you refuse to do that, turn down some a couple settings to see if that helps.
     
    Remember also that different areas in games can affect FPS more than others. And, the whole point of adaptive VYSNC is to not automatically drop FPS to 30 like regular VSYNC, but rather 45 and then 30 - so your system is technically doing what you set it up to do.


    The settings was never an issue. Its like everything is working perfectly fine one day. And the next day on the same settings it starts performing wrong. Its like taking a car for a drive and doing 100MPH. the next day You do the same exact drive but its stalling at 70MPH. 
    Like I said same set up same card but lower benchmarks. Same game but lower fps. I just switched the drivers from i believe latest 350 to the 347. i played nba and no slow down and i played gta v with no slow down just the weird lines on his face. I will check out the msi afterburner though. thanks for your suggestions i greatly appreciate it. 


     


     
    Lines on face are probably due to a game/driver issue.


    Yes Sir that is what I assume. They were never there until I changed the driver. But I will deal until a newer driver that doesn't mess with my performance is released. I do appreciate everyone's help greatly. 
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 20:11:09 (permalink)
    Ambient temperatures can play big a role as well, causing the GPU to hit the thermal throttle threshold.
     
    One way to see is to take the side of your case off and check it again. With older even hotter cards like the 480s, I had to put a house fan blowing in on the cards to keep them cool. That shouldn't be the case with a 780 Ti, but you have the ACX version which dumps most of its hot air back into the computer case, and doesn't exhaust all of it like the reference 780 Ti's that I have (which is the reason why I will never buy EVGA's ACX cards due to my preference of using two cards and the inherent heating issues that can cause with ACX coolers).
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 20:13:39 (permalink)
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    Ambient temperatures can play big a role as well, causing the GPU to hit the thermal throttle threshold.
     
    One way to see is to take the side of your case off and check it again. With older even hotter cards like the 480s, I had to put a house fan blowing in on the cards to keep them cool. That shouldn't be the case with a 780 Ti, but you have the ACX version which dumps most of its hot air back into the computer case, and doesn't exhaust all of it like the reference 780 Ti's that I have (which is the reason why I will never buy EVGA's ACX cards due to my preference of using two cards and the inherent heating issues that can cause with ACX coolers).


    Yes indeed. I took the side of the case off and even had a fan running on it last week when it felt like it was running a little warm. 
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 20:31:24 (permalink)
    Saying that the ACX coolers don't cool as well as reference cards is so untrue. ACX cards stay much cooler than reference cards this has been my experience. If you have a problem with these cards it is usually the case does not vent properly. But this is really a moot point because it looks like it's a driver issue. One last thing did you use display driver sweeper or some program make sure the entire driver was uninstalled? If not I highly recommend you do this and than install the working driver again.

    arestavo
    Ambient temperatures can play big a role as well, causing the GPU to hit the thermal throttle threshold.
     
    One way to see is to take the side of your case off and check it again. With older even hotter cards like the 480s, I had to put a house fan blowing in on the cards to keep them cool. That shouldn't be the case with a 780 Ti, but you have the ACX version which dumps most of its hot air back into the computer case, and doesn't exhaust all of it like the reference 780 Ti's that I have (which is the reason why I will never buy EVGA's ACX cards due to my preference of using two cards and the inherent heating issues that can cause with ACX coolers).




     
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 21:31:06 (permalink)
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    Saying that the ACX coolers don't cool as well as reference cards is so untrue. ACX cards stay much cooler than reference cards this has been my experience. If you have a problem with these cards it is usually the case does not vent properly. But this is really a moot point because it looks like it's a driver issue. One last thing did you use display driver sweeper or some program make sure the entire driver was uninstalled? If not I highly recommend you do this and than install the working driver again.



    I wrote that multi-card ACX setups don't cool the cards as well, and it's been written about in this very forum by the folks that own them. And yes, force enough air into a case and you can cool a nuclear reactor, but those fans will SCREAM.
     
    For single card systems or systems that you can widely space out two cards ACX will be superior. However, sandwiched ACX cards will not have superior cooling in many cases (which is the point I was driving at, and many folks don't have good enough airflow to do it - for that matter, my full size case that has four 120mm side door fans probably can't because they couldn't handle my old quad SLI 580 classifieds).
     
    And it very well could be a driver issue, or a combination of issues.
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/13 22:07:44 (permalink)
    I understand where you are coming from. Yes many people do make the comment that ACX cards get hot. This has not been my "expearance". Most of today's boards allow 60mm spacing between cards so cooling not a issue.

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    Saying that the ACX coolers don't cool as well as reference cards is so untrue. ACX cards stay much cooler than reference cards this has been my experience. If you have a problem with these cards it is usually the case does not vent properly. But this is really a moot point because it looks like it's a driver issue. One last thing did you use display driver sweeper or some program make sure the entire driver was uninstalled? If not I highly recommend you do this and than install the working driver again.



    I wrote that multi-card ACX setups don't cool the cards as well, and it's been written about in this very forum by the folks that own them. And yes, force enough air into a case and you can cool a nuclear reactor, but those fans will SCREAM.
     
    For single card systems or systems that you can widely space out two cards ACX will be superior. However, sandwiched ACX cards will not have superior cooling in many cases (which is the point I was driving at, and many folks don't have good enough airflow to do it - for that matter, my full size case that has four 120mm side door fans probably can't because they couldn't handle my old quad SLI 580 classifieds).
     
    And it very well could be a driver issue, or a combination of issues.




     
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/22 16:18:33 (permalink)
    I am having the same problems. I am playing the witcher 3. at start it plays fine. anywhere from 55fps to 65fps even 70 here and there. 15 minutes 20 minutes into the game it drops to 30 and hangs around there. the same thing that happened with GTA V. I did a clean and updated my drivers to the newest drivers for the witcher 3. I dont know what is going on. it is very frustrating. 
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/23 15:44:12 (permalink)
    I'm having a lot of trouble with my 780ti. Same issue as OP. It's just stopped performing well entirely. On Unigine Valley I get a score of 2200 when EVGA's chat support told me it was supposed to be over 3000. I actually got an RMA for this performance issue, but EVGA said nothing was wrong with the card. 
     
    SC 780ti ACX
    i5 4670k
    16GB RAM
    Asus Z87 Pro V Edition
     
    post edited by JamesEmory - 2015/05/23 15:48:36
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/23 16:32:26 (permalink)
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    I'm having a lot of trouble with my 780ti. Same issue as OP. It's just stopped performing well entirely. On Unigine Valley I get a score of 2200 when EVGA's chat support told me it was supposed to be over 3000. I actually got an RMA for this performance issue, but EVGA said nothing was wrong with the card. 
     
    SC 780ti ACX
    i5 4670k
    16GB RAM
    Asus Z87 Pro V Edition
     




    Use DDU to uninstall the your drivers in safe mode. Reboot and reinstall drivers. If the problem still occurs, try doing the same steps again with an older set of drivers.
     
    EDIT: I see you are using a K model i5. If you overclock your CPU, it may be getting to the point of not having enough voltage to quite sustain the overclock stably. This sometimes happens with time. Try bumping up the voltage a tad, or lowering the overclock.
    post edited by arestavo - 2015/05/23 16:34:59
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    Re: Major performance drop with 780 ti 2015/05/23 17:03:09 (permalink)
    I haven't done anything to the CPU. Just installed it out of the box in February of 2014.
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