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MSI sent me a Z170A-G45 Gaming since they had no more Z77 models and I can't even reach BIOS. I try to short the pins to reset the BIOS and it lights up a blue LED. If I have to replace this motherboard it is going to be a PITA. There was nothing wrong with my Z97 Gaming 7 but I thought I might try this as an upgrade. What a mistake. 
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/28 12:58:07
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What CPU did you go with? Do the Norm; Use One Ram Stick Check to see you have Bent CPU Socket Pins Use the IGPU to see if it is working in the Bios But I bet you have already done this.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/28 12:58:34
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I know you are using a waterloop, but have you tried slowly removing components to see if something else may be causing it?
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/28 13:00:40
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Using a i7-6700k. Tried single stick of RAM to no avail. Disconnected all but my system drives. RAM is on their approved list but I forget what it is. I just tried clearing the CMOS again.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/28 13:02:13
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The only thing I did not install was a CD/ROM. I didn't think I needed one.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/28 13:08:01
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Anyway, I did check for bent pins too. I have to go get something for dinner. I let the geniuses here think about it until I get back. The EVGA Z170 FTW is on sale right now. I might have to finally try an EVGA motherboard.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/29 16:38:33
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Did we figure out anything yet?
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/29 17:58:16
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I might have to finally try an EVGA motherboard.
That would be a very good idea.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/30 08:09:01
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Is it just the angle of your picture, optical illusion or maybe my poor eyesight........but it looks like the whole right side (in the photo) the pins are laid over to the left.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/30 08:14:22
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Is it just the angle of your picture, optical illusion or maybe my poor eyesight........but it looks like the whole right side (in the photo) the pins are laid over to the left.
That's just the way they are made. It looks to me like all of those pins bend in the middle to give it a spring type action. They used to call that an 'elbow joint' or 'elbow action' on antique car shock absorbers. I am looking more for symmetry where all pins are in perfectly straight rows and columns. Here's another angle but it's hard to try and wiggle an iPhone past the hoses. 
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/30 08:18:23
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Is it just the angle of your picture, optical illusion or maybe my poor eyesight........but it looks like the whole right side (in the photo) the pins are laid over to the left.
That's just the way they are made. It looks to me like all of those pins bend in the middle to give it a spring type action. They used to call that an 'elbow joint' or 'elbow action' on antique car shock absorbers. I am looking more for symmetry where all pins are in perfectly straight rows and columns. Here's another angle but it's hard to try and wiggle an iPhone past the hoses.
 figured it was just the angle of the photo...............damn iPhones!!!
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/30 08:19:53
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I might have to finally try an EVGA motherboard.
That would be a very good idea.
It doesn't look like any of the EVGA Z170 motherboards have the proper spacing for my video boards. Too bad or I might get one.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 08:33:30
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What code is it giving you on the little 2 digit debug readout when it gets hung up?
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 08:39:19
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What code is it giving you on the little 2 digit debug readout when it gets hung up?
It doesn't hang up. It keeps cycling 4C, 55, 0d, 00 and repeats forever until I shut it off.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 09:51:14
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Maybe try unplugging the front panel connectors? Seems like the reset signal is stuck.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 09:59:07
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Maybe try unplugging the front panel connectors? Seems like the reset signal is stuck.
I already yanked them off. I removed everything until I had nothing but a bare motherboard with CPU, RAM, keyboard and mouse. Keyboard or mouse won't light up either. If new RAM doesn't fix it I will RMA the CPU and pitch a fit to MSI about sending me a DOA motherboard.
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2016/10/31 09:59:36
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Maybe try unplugging the front panel connectors? Seems like the reset signal is stuck.
Or maybe some are backwards!
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 10:14:37
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Try single ram in different slot. Is there a bios switch for different bios? If so try it.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 10:20:04
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I looked up your board. Seems there is a slow mode switch on it. Try a different setting on it. Worth a shot.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 10:26:25
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Maybe later. I thought about that too.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 12:12:08
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I have the exact board - -definitely make sure the Bios is updated ( many of them allowed for better ram compatibility ) -only use the 2 sticks of ram to begin with ( manual tells you the exact ones when booting on 2 ) " it is dimm 2 & dimm 4 "
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/10/31 12:51:14
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Can't reach BIOS to flash it.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/11/01 02:32:18
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I paid extra for 3-day delivery. RAM should be here today. Keeping fingers crossed.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/11/01 05:25:15
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I didn't ever see you post what memory you put in ? but I do know early Bios's had issues with Gskill and a few others but the 2 sticks I used worked great.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/11/01 08:41:24
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/11/01 09:03:08
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Ran a Z87 Sabertooth. No issues with it internally. Just got tired of it's twitchiness in regards to external USB 3.0 devices. Hopefully that's been sorted out on the newer boards.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/11/01 09:05:41
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The only thing that bothers me is no LED readout. It's nice to be able to see the trouble code instead of trying to count beeps if it decides to not boot one day if you know what I mean.
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Re: MSI motherboard stuck in infinite loop
2016/11/01 09:19:44
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It could also display the codes on the monitor as it boots like my EVGA Z97 does. Which is nice, because of where the PC sits, I can't see the readout anyway.
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