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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 01:43:56
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/22 02:35:14
Note: All of my comments are my personal preference for reasons stated.
Video cards:
I would not go with the Kingpin cards unless you are into all of that over the top type overclocking, else it's a waste of money in my eye (check out some of the threads on those cards). Also, if I were going sli with air cooling, I would go with cards with the stock fan cooler, so all the hot air gets exhausted out the back of the case and not into the case not into the case at one card to the other. Those cards throw the hot air into the case and the card on top will run hotter because it's catching all the bottom cards hot air. As an alternative , I'd go with the hybrid cards, where each card has it's own 120 radiator for much better cooling (check out some of the threads on those cards).
Storage:
I'm assuming you plan to install your OS and all your games on the 1tb ssd, correct. I like to keep those separate of each other. I like to the OS and other non-gaming programs on a separate ssd to keep from filling up the ssd with games.
Again, these are a personal decision here and we all do it differently.
There will be others who can speak on the other items, so hang around.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 02:34:03
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Video Cards:
I like the hybrid cards, but I am wondering how I will be able to fit two of them in my case. I am also wondering if there will be enough room between the cards for all the components that come with the hybrid cooling system.
Besides the hybrid cards, what top-of-the-line card(s) (I plan on running two in SLI) can you recommend that will crush any game at max setting that I throw at it? Is the 980ti supposed to be better than the TITAN?
Storage:
Is it necessary and/or beneficial to keep them separate? Or is that just personal preference?
OS:
What OS do you recommend? And how can I keep it running as smooth as Mac OS? I always had a lot of trouble with my last system because of all the malicious software issues.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 04:24:26
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/22 13:34:13
I would separate your OS Drive from your Gaming Drive. That is get a 256 or 512 GB C SSD Drive and install your OS on and Without the Game Drive Connected. Then get your 1 TB SSD for your Gaming Drive, although I would get a 2 or 3 TB SATA III Drive for this purpose. This is necessary and beneficial ExtremistGamerAA3
Storage:
Is it necessary and/or beneficial to keep them separate? Or is that just personal preference?
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 05:16:05
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/22 13:27:27
If you are going to Microcenter for the case, then check out their CPU/Mobo Deals. You might be able to find that CPU for much cheaper.
They have always had a $200 baseline i7 combo. They might have one for the higher ends too. I bought my i7 920 for $200 when it was like $400 on Newegg. The 2600k was also $200. I even bought this 4770k for $200 as part of a larger combo.
Just looking at the PC Part Picker listing for the i7 you selected, Microcenter has it for $899.
Imo, there is a diminishing return for the ultra high end PC parts. Similar to what Methodical said about the Kingpin GPU, I feel the same way about processors. The highest end CPU you can buy will not vastly outperform a regular high end CPU (Except in server applications, benchmarks, and video processing). For gaming and other applications you wont notice a difference between a $1000 CPU and a $600 one. Id save the $400 and grab some more storage space, 4k monitor, sound system, or other parts.
CPU thing is just an opinion. With your budget you could easily get the $1000 CPU.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 08:00:22
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/22 13:14:17
I agree with the above CPU opinion and think an i7-6700K would be a better choice than the 5960x unless you are doing some serious multi-threaded work. I seem to remember reading that even the older 4790K Haswell would beat a 5960x in day to day tasks AND gaming because of the better single core performance and higher clock speeds. A 6700K and a Z170 FTW together are about $500 from MicroCenter including combo discount and rebate. The money saved could go to bigger/better monitor, peripherals, etc... You really don't want to skimp on the monitor! I agree with separating drives (even though I don't do it). You'd also gain more bang for buck in the user experience going with better SSDs - I would highly suggest 850 PRO instead of the EVO as a minimum. Or even a PCIe / NVMe model like 950 PRO or Intel 750 series. Considering the total they don't add much cost for what you gain. As far as OS - I run Windows 8.1 x64 and it's been fairly trouble free for me. Windows 10 is being pushed pretty hard - and at some point when DX12 games come out it will be required. Granted they are still working out some kinks - I'd say the way Win10 handles updates would be very similar to what you're used to with OSX. If you get yourself a good antivirus and browse smartly you can pretty much mitigate malware risk.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 09:41:16
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 13:26:05
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I agree with the above CPU opinion and think an i7-6700K would be a better choice than the 5960x unless you are doing some serious multi-threaded work. I seem to remember reading that even the older 4790K Haswell would beat a 5960x in day to day tasks AND gaming because of the better single core performance and higher clock speeds. A 6700K and a Z170 FTW together are about $500 from MicroCenter including combo discount and rebate. The money saved could go to bigger/better monitor, peripherals, etc... You really don't want to skimp on the monitor! I agree with separating drives (even though I don't do it). You'd also gain more bang for buck in the user experience going with better SSDs - I would highly suggest 850 PRO instead of the EVO as a minimum. Or even a PCIe / NVMe model like 950 PRO or Intel 750 series. Considering the total they don't add much cost for what you gain.
As far as OS - I run Windows 8.1 x64 and it's been fairly trouble free for me. Windows 10 is being pushed pretty hard - and at some point when DX12 games come out it will be required. Granted they are still working out some kinks - I'd say the way Win10 handles updates would be very similar to what you're used to with OSX. If you get yourself a good antivirus and browse smartly you can pretty much mitigate malware risk.
In that case, I will stick with the 5960x. I found it for in-store pickup at a Micro Center near me for about $200 cheaper than on Newegg. Thanks kidcrumb. Can you recommend two SSD's for me? Perhaps a 512 GB one for the OS and 1TB for all my games and data. Ones that will give me a big performance boost, but won't push me over my allocated budget. Do you have any advice about video cards?
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 13:34:39
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If you are going to Microcenter for the case, then check out their CPU/Mobo Deals. You might be able to find that CPU for much cheaper.
They have always had a $200 baseline i7 combo. They might have one for the higher ends too. I bought my i7 920 for $200 when it was like $400 on Newegg. The 2600k was also $200. I even bought this 4770k for $200 as part of a larger combo.
Just looking at the PC Part Picker listing for the i7 you selected, Microcenter has it for $899.
Imo, there is a diminishing return for the ultra high end PC parts. Similar to what Methodical said about the Kingpin GPU, I feel the same way about processors. The highest end CPU you can buy will not vastly outperform a regular high end CPU (Except in server applications, benchmarks, and video processing). For gaming and other applications you wont notice a difference between a $1000 CPU and a $600 one. Id save the $400 and grab some more storage space, 4k monitor, sound system, or other parts.
CPU thing is just an opinion. With your budget you could easily get the $1000 CPU.
What video cards can you recommend? I want two of them, and I want to be able to run every single high-end game out there on the max settings. Some people like to bring up the hybrid cards, but I don't know if I will be able to fit two of them side by side, and if there will be enough room in the case for both coolers.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 13:43:08
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If you plan on playing @ 4k in every game at max settings you're gonna need more than dual 980 ti's. If you want acceptable frame rates that is.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 13:45:40
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If you plan on playing @ 4k in every game at max settings you're gonna need more than dual 980 ti's. If you want acceptable frame rates that is.
What video cards and monitor do I need then?
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 13:54:53
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If you plan on playing @ 4k in every game at max settings you're gonna need more than dual 980 ti's. If you want acceptable frame rates that is.
What video cards and monitor do I need then?
It depends. What resolution do you plan to play at and what is acceptable fps to you?
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 14:01:09
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/22 15:32:55
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If you are going to Microcenter for the case, then check out their CPU/Mobo Deals. You might be able to find that CPU for much cheaper.
They have always had a $200 baseline i7 combo. They might have one for the higher ends too. I bought my i7 920 for $200 when it was like $400 on Newegg. The 2600k was also $200. I even bought this 4770k for $200 as part of a larger combo.
Just looking at the PC Part Picker listing for the i7 you selected, Microcenter has it for $899.
Imo, there is a diminishing return for the ultra high end PC parts. Similar to what Methodical said about the Kingpin GPU, I feel the same way about processors. The highest end CPU you can buy will not vastly outperform a regular high end CPU (Except in server applications, benchmarks, and video processing). For gaming and other applications you wont notice a difference between a $1000 CPU and a $600 one. Id save the $400 and grab some more storage space, 4k monitor, sound system, or other parts.
CPU thing is just an opinion. With your budget you could easily get the $1000 CPU.
What video cards can you recommend? I want two of them, and I want to be able to run every single high-end game out there on the max settings. Some people like to bring up the hybrid cards, but I don't know if I will be able to fit two of them side by side, and if there will be enough room in the case for both coolers.
The GTX980TI Hybrids are the right choice. They will fit side by side just fine, and they will stay cool with the Hybrid cooler. They offer a good price/performance by comparison to the Titans which imo, are a bit expensive for what you get. If you are going to Microcenter, they should price match newegg as long as you are buying a few things from them. They might even have some discounts/combos if you ask them. Especially if you are buying $2k worth of PC parts. I love going to Microcenter, but end up spending like $1000 every time I go there. Your build is fine. And it will destroy any games that are not horribly optimized. If you are playing games in 4k though, you will run into some hiccups because the horsepower just isn't there yet to run smoothly. Get a nice 1440p monitor that's 120hz. You will destroy games at high frame rates with maxed out settings AND mods. It will look better than a 4k monitor too. The graphical settings just aren't up to snuff where 4k resolution looks that much better. If you could run Chex Quest at 999999999999k resolution, it would still look like Chex Quest at 1080p. Extreme example, but that's kind of like running games at 4k vs. 1440p right now.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 14:04:08
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If you plan on playing @ 4k in every game at max settings you're gonna need more than dual 980 ti's. If you want acceptable frame rates that is.
What video cards and monitor do I need then?
It depends. What resolution do you plan to play at and what is acceptable fps to you?
I don't know much about fps, and how it works. I want to be able to play games at 4k without any lag.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 14:14:36
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If you plan on playing @ 4k in every game at max settings you're gonna need more than dual 980 ti's. If you want acceptable frame rates that is.
What video cards and monitor do I need then?
It depends. What resolution do you plan to play at and what is acceptable fps to you?
I don't know much about fps, and how it works. I want to be able to play games at 4k without any lag.
With the info you've provided two 980 ti's at 4k should be fine since you don't have a fps tolerance. You can always add a 3rd 980 ti later if you need more performance. Buy a 1300-1600w psu instead though.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 15:37:28
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If you are going to Microcenter for the case, then check out their CPU/Mobo Deals. You might be able to find that CPU for much cheaper.
They have always had a $200 baseline i7 combo. They might have one for the higher ends too. I bought my i7 920 for $200 when it was like $400 on Newegg. The 2600k was also $200. I even bought this 4770k for $200 as part of a larger combo.
Just looking at the PC Part Picker listing for the i7 you selected, Microcenter has it for $899.
Imo, there is a diminishing return for the ultra high end PC parts. Similar to what Methodical said about the Kingpin GPU, I feel the same way about processors. The highest end CPU you can buy will not vastly outperform a regular high end CPU (Except in server applications, benchmarks, and video processing). For gaming and other applications you wont notice a difference between a $1000 CPU and a $600 one. Id save the $400 and grab some more storage space, 4k monitor, sound system, or other parts.
CPU thing is just an opinion. With your budget you could easily get the $1000 CPU.
What video cards can you recommend? I want two of them, and I want to be able to run every single high-end game out there on the max settings. Some people like to bring up the hybrid cards, but I don't know if I will be able to fit two of them side by side, and if there will be enough room in the case for both coolers.
The GTX980TI Hybrids are the right choice. They will fit side by side just fine, and they will stay cool with the Hybrid cooler. They offer a good price/performance by comparison to the Titans which imo, are a bit expensive for what you get.
If you are going to Microcenter, they should price match newegg as long as you are buying a few things from them. They might even have some discounts/combos if you ask them. Especially if you are buying $2k worth of PC parts. I love going to Microcenter, but end up spending like $1000 every time I go there.
Your build is fine. And it will destroy any games that are not horribly optimized. If you are playing games in 4k though, you will run into some hiccups because the horsepower just isn't there yet to run smoothly. Get a nice 1440p monitor that's 120hz. You will destroy games at high frame rates with maxed out settings AND mods. It will look better than a 4k monitor too. The graphical settings just aren't up to snuff where 4k resolution looks that much better. If you could run Chex Quest at 999999999999k resolution, it would still look like Chex Quest at 1080p. Extreme example, but that's kind of like running games at 4k vs. 1440p right now.
Sweet. GTX980TI Hybrids it is then. Do you think the case I picked out will fit them fine? Or is it better to go with the Corsair 750D Airflow Edition? I want to be able to fit everything without having to do any significant modifications to the case. Is this monitor good for what you described? http://www.amazon.com/Ace...1_19?tag=amazon0606-20
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 15:40:42
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If you are going to Microcenter for the case, then check out their CPU/Mobo Deals. You might be able to find that CPU for much cheaper.
They have always had a $200 baseline i7 combo. They might have one for the higher ends too. I bought my i7 920 for $200 when it was like $400 on Newegg. The 2600k was also $200. I even bought this 4770k for $200 as part of a larger combo.
Just looking at the PC Part Picker listing for the i7 you selected, Microcenter has it for $899.
Imo, there is a diminishing return for the ultra high end PC parts. Similar to what Methodical said about the Kingpin GPU, I feel the same way about processors. The highest end CPU you can buy will not vastly outperform a regular high end CPU (Except in server applications, benchmarks, and video processing). For gaming and other applications you wont notice a difference between a $1000 CPU and a $600 one. Id save the $400 and grab some more storage space, 4k monitor, sound system, or other parts.
CPU thing is just an opinion. With your budget you could easily get the $1000 CPU.
What video cards can you recommend? I want two of them, and I want to be able to run every single high-end game out there on the max settings. Some people like to bring up the hybrid cards, but I don't know if I will be able to fit two of them side by side, and if there will be enough room in the case for both coolers.
The GTX980TI Hybrids are the right choice. They will fit side by side just fine, and they will stay cool with the Hybrid cooler. They offer a good price/performance by comparison to the Titans which imo, are a bit expensive for what you get.
If you are going to Microcenter, they should price match newegg as long as you are buying a few things from them. They might even have some discounts/combos if you ask them. Especially if you are buying $2k worth of PC parts. I love going to Microcenter, but end up spending like $1000 every time I go there.
Your build is fine. And it will destroy any games that are not horribly optimized. If you are playing games in 4k though, you will run into some hiccups because the horsepower just isn't there yet to run smoothly. Get a nice 1440p monitor that's 120hz. You will destroy games at high frame rates with maxed out settings AND mods. It will look better than a 4k monitor too. The graphical settings just aren't up to snuff where 4k resolution looks that much better. If you could run Chex Quest at 999999999999k resolution, it would still look like Chex Quest at 1080p. Extreme example, but that's kind of like running games at 4k vs. 1440p right now.
1440p does not look better than 4k.  Faster yes, looks better no.
 
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 15:50:46
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I would say anything over 1080P or 1200 for anyone over 50 is a waste.
My Max is 1920 x 1200 and once I go above it the fonts are so small I cannot see them and for gaming I cannot tell the difference anymore.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 16:06:52
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If you are going to Microcenter for the case, then check out their CPU/Mobo Deals. You might be able to find that CPU for much cheaper.
They have always had a $200 baseline i7 combo. They might have one for the higher ends too. I bought my i7 920 for $200 when it was like $400 on Newegg. The 2600k was also $200. I even bought this 4770k for $200 as part of a larger combo.
Just looking at the PC Part Picker listing for the i7 you selected, Microcenter has it for $899.
Imo, there is a diminishing return for the ultra high end PC parts. Similar to what Methodical said about the Kingpin GPU, I feel the same way about processors. The highest end CPU you can buy will not vastly outperform a regular high end CPU (Except in server applications, benchmarks, and video processing). For gaming and other applications you wont notice a difference between a $1000 CPU and a $600 one. Id save the $400 and grab some more storage space, 4k monitor, sound system, or other parts.
CPU thing is just an opinion. With your budget you could easily get the $1000 CPU.
What video cards can you recommend? I want two of them, and I want to be able to run every single high-end game out there on the max settings. Some people like to bring up the hybrid cards, but I don't know if I will be able to fit two of them side by side, and if there will be enough room in the case for both coolers.
The GTX980TI Hybrids are the right choice. They will fit side by side just fine, and they will stay cool with the Hybrid cooler. They offer a good price/performance by comparison to the Titans which imo, are a bit expensive for what you get.
If you are going to Microcenter, they should price match newegg as long as you are buying a few things from them. They might even have some discounts/combos if you ask them. Especially if you are buying $2k worth of PC parts. I love going to Microcenter, but end up spending like $1000 every time I go there.
Your build is fine. And it will destroy any games that are not horribly optimized. If you are playing games in 4k though, you will run into some hiccups because the horsepower just isn't there yet to run smoothly. Get a nice 1440p monitor that's 120hz. You will destroy games at high frame rates with maxed out settings AND mods. It will look better than a 4k monitor too. The graphical settings just aren't up to snuff where 4k resolution looks that much better. If you could run Chex Quest at 999999999999k resolution, it would still look like Chex Quest at 1080p. Extreme example, but that's kind of like running games at 4k vs. 1440p right now.
1440p does not look better than 4k.
Faster yes, looks better no.
I agree. Some games though 4k is a complete waste. Textures too small and other effects look like crap when given a higher resolution to see how crappy it is. Id still take 120hz at 1440p and solid 60fps than 4k and volatile frame rate. OP can probably future proof this though and just buy a 4K monitor right now even if he plays at 2k resolutions.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 17:32:57
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If you are going to Microcenter for the case, then check out their CPU/Mobo Deals. You might be able to find that CPU for much cheaper.
They have always had a $200 baseline i7 combo. They might have one for the higher ends too. I bought my i7 920 for $200 when it was like $400 on Newegg. The 2600k was also $200. I even bought this 4770k for $200 as part of a larger combo.
Just looking at the PC Part Picker listing for the i7 you selected, Microcenter has it for $899.
Imo, there is a diminishing return for the ultra high end PC parts. Similar to what Methodical said about the Kingpin GPU, I feel the same way about processors. The highest end CPU you can buy will not vastly outperform a regular high end CPU (Except in server applications, benchmarks, and video processing). For gaming and other applications you wont notice a difference between a $1000 CPU and a $600 one. Id save the $400 and grab some more storage space, 4k monitor, sound system, or other parts.
CPU thing is just an opinion. With your budget you could easily get the $1000 CPU.
What video cards can you recommend? I want two of them, and I want to be able to run every single high-end game out there on the max settings. Some people like to bring up the hybrid cards, but I don't know if I will be able to fit two of them side by side, and if there will be enough room in the case for both coolers.
The GTX980TI Hybrids are the right choice. They will fit side by side just fine, and they will stay cool with the Hybrid cooler. They offer a good price/performance by comparison to the Titans which imo, are a bit expensive for what you get.
If you are going to Microcenter, they should price match newegg as long as you are buying a few things from them. They might even have some discounts/combos if you ask them. Especially if you are buying $2k worth of PC parts. I love going to Microcenter, but end up spending like $1000 every time I go there.
Your build is fine. And it will destroy any games that are not horribly optimized. If you are playing games in 4k though, you will run into some hiccups because the horsepower just isn't there yet to run smoothly. Get a nice 1440p monitor that's 120hz. You will destroy games at high frame rates with maxed out settings AND mods. It will look better than a 4k monitor too. The graphical settings just aren't up to snuff where 4k resolution looks that much better. If you could run Chex Quest at 999999999999k resolution, it would still look like Chex Quest at 1080p. Extreme example, but that's kind of like running games at 4k vs. 1440p right now.
1440p does not look better than 4k.
Faster yes, looks better no.
Sorry, but I'm a bit confused now. Let's say I try to play Batman: Arkham Knight or Witcher 3 with this rig on max settings and 4k resolution, will I experience smooth game play, or will I lag often? Can you recommend a 4k monitor? Nothing over 30". What SSD can you recommend? I don't want to skimp out on that part of my build, and I don't want a mediocre SSD to bottleneck performance.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 18:01:46
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Sorry, but I'm a bit confused now. Let's say I try to play Batman: Arkham Knight or Witcher 3 with this rig on max settings and 4k resolution, will I experience smooth game play, or will I lag often?
Can you recommend a 4k monitor? Nothing over 30".
What SSD can you recommend? I don't want to skimp out on that part of my build, and I don't want a mediocre SSD to bottleneck performance.
#1 lagging often will depend on your fps tolerance. #2 4k monitor#3 A regular sata 3 (6GB/s) ssd isn't going to botteneck your system performance unless your doing large file transfers. If you plan on doing large file transfers go with this drive. If you're just gaming go with any regular sata 3 (6GB/s) ssd like a intel 730.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 18:23:54
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/23 05:11:47
The SSD you picked out is fine for your storage drive, then I would get a smaller 850 EVO for your OS drive. I picked up a 850 EVO 120gb for 60 bucks at Frys.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 18:25:43
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I agree with the above CPU opinion and think an i7-6700K would be a better choice than the 5960x unless you are doing some serious multi-threaded work. I seem to remember reading that even the older 4790K Haswell would beat a 5960x in day to day tasks AND gaming because of the better single core performance and higher clock speeds. A 6700K and a Z170 FTW together are about $500 from MicroCenter including combo discount and rebate. The money saved could go to bigger/better monitor, peripherals, etc... You really don't want to skimp on the monitor! I agree with separating drives (even though I don't do it). You'd also gain more bang for buck in the user experience going with better SSDs - I would highly suggest 850 PRO instead of the EVO as a minimum. Or even a PCIe / NVMe model like 950 PRO or Intel 750 series. Considering the total they don't add much cost for what you gain.
As far as OS - I run Windows 8.1 x64 and it's been fairly trouble free for me. Windows 10 is being pushed pretty hard - and at some point when DX12 games come out it will be required. Granted they are still working out some kinks - I'd say the way Win10 handles updates would be very similar to what you're used to with OSX. If you get yourself a good antivirus and browse smartly you can pretty much mitigate malware risk.
What is the advantage of the Pro over the Evo? I compared them on Newegg, but I can't figure out what is so much better about it.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 18:27:23
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The SSD you picked out is fine for your storage drive, then I would get a smaller 850 EVO for your OS drive. I picked up a 850 EVO 120gb for 60 bucks at Frys.
Is the Pro worth it? Is 512 gb enough for the OS drive?
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 20:12:45
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/23 05:11:35
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The SSD you picked out is fine for your storage drive, then I would get a smaller 850 EVO for your OS drive. I picked up a 850 EVO 120gb for 60 bucks at Frys.
Is the Pro worth it? Is 512 gb enough for the OS drive?
IMO no, spend it some where else. The EVO's are good SSD's. My 120gb is plenty enough for OS, only using 40 gigs w OS and a couple of other programs.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/22 20:18:27
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If you were thinking of getting the Pro, then I would suggest M.2 drive that Sajin recommended.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 05:06:51
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Sorry, but I'm a bit confused now. Let's say I try to play Batman: Arkham Knight or Witcher 3 with this rig on max settings and 4k resolution, will I experience smooth game play, or will I lag often?
Can you recommend a 4k monitor? Nothing over 30".
What SSD can you recommend? I don't want to skimp out on that part of my build, and I don't want a mediocre SSD to bottleneck performance.
#1 lagging often will depend on your fps tolerance.
#2 4k monitor
#3 A regular sata 3 (6GB/s) ssd isn't going to botteneck your system performance unless your doing large file transfers. If you plan on doing large file transfers go with this drive. If you're just gaming go with any regular sata 3 (6GB/s) ssd like a intel 730.
Sweet. Thanks for the help. I updated my parts listed in the original post. Would you be able to look it over and let me know what you think? i.e. Will the two hybrid video cards fit well in that case? are the keyboard and mouse any good? Is the CPU cooler I chose fine? What OS do you recommend?
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 06:55:37
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Personally for SSD HD I would buy this over any SSD !( http://www.microcenter.com/product/453552/750_Series_400GB_PCIe_30_x4_HH_25_Solid_State_Drive) they are about 4 times faster than any of the ones mentioned above. As far as a video card wait for a couple of months and the New 1080 series they will be for sale which looks to be 25% faster. CPU I would go with the 5930K. Your not going to gain a thing going the 5930X route when gaming!Motherboard, they are coming out with a newer motherboard in a few months also. I am going to build something very close to what you are attempting. The very same reason I am waiting for the new motherboard. I have already purchased a 5930k ,1300watt EVGA PSU, 16GB of EVGA Ram, Corsair H100i GTX CPU cooler, GTX980ti Hybrid. The reason I bought the GTX980ti Hybrid now is usually the first cards that come out are not as good as second batch of GPUs.And I want to Game Now on my Older I-7 920 System. I hope this helps you decide what to get unless you just have money to burn. I game every day for min of 2 Hrs. Max Hrs is 12-16 all depends on how many hackers is on. I play MWF3 @ the moment and plan on playing (Ghost) when I Level to the highest Level in this game. The SSD I recommended is what I plan on purchasing. The only reason that it is not in my hands today is I am waiting to see if the price drops(which it has) due to the new type of memory(HBM2) that is being produced.I figure the Price will drop farther as soon as Intel puts the HBM2 into the Newer SSDs and they hit the Market.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 07:16:03
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☄ Helpfulby ExtremistGamerAA3 2016/03/23 09:48:09
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What is the advantage of the Pro over the Evo? I compared them on Newegg, but I can't figure out what is so much better about it.
850 EVO to 850 PRO - the PRO is a little bit faster, but is rated for about 2x the write endurance because of the memory chips that are used, a tri-core controller, and has a 10 year warranty. Is that a big deal - probably not in the grand scheme of things, but after the issues with the 840 EVO I think the TLC drives need more time to be out. The 950 PRO that Sajin recommended OR the Intel drive that DAVE2HOT4U recommended are MUCH faster than the 850 or pretty much any SSD out there. 850 speeds - 566/533MBs vs 2252/1230MBs (Read/Write). Again is it going to be THAT noticeable in real-world use maybe not - but you're already going full-out on the rest of the build might as well go all-out everywhere.  Another thing I noticed was your RAM is 2x8 sticks... someone please correct me if wrong as I'm not too familiar with X99 - but isn't it quad channel? If that's the case I think you'd want a kit that comes with 4 RAM sticks instead of 2.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 07:55:29
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What is the advantage of the Pro over the Evo? I compared them on Newegg, but I can't figure out what is so much better about it.
850 EVO to 850 PRO - the PRO is a little bit faster, but is rated for about 2x the write endurance because of the memory chips that are used, a tri-core controller, and has a 10 year warranty. Is that a big deal - probably not in the grand scheme of things, but after the issues with the 840 EVO I think the TLC drives need more time to be out.
The 950 PRO that Sajin recommended OR the Intel drive that DAVE2HOT4U recommended are MUCH faster than the 850 or pretty much any SSD out there. 850 speeds - 566/533MBs vs 2252/1230MBs (Read/Write). Again is it going to be THAT noticeable in real-world use maybe not - but you're already going full-out on the rest of the build might as well go all-out everywhere.
Another thing I noticed was your RAM is 2x8 sticks... someone please correct me if wrong as I'm not too familiar with X99 - but isn't it quad channel? If that's the case I think you'd want a kit that comes with 4 RAM sticks instead of 2.
No he is correct on memory. It shows his post as DDR4 memory which is Quad, just newer style, early sicks were 4GB those are 8 GB. I would think the real time for SSDs would help not only load the game faster but allow the guns to shoot faster due to lag. I have noticed that from going from SSD back to Sata(platter) drives that people are loading the game faster than me and getting on the killing floor much faster than me which might give them a few seconds to get to a spot to kill you before you even load into the game. Not only that but being I have to play against people from different countries. That amount of time to see the enemy-react-pull the trigger increases therefore if my computer can react @ a rate faster than them will give me a closer real time,and my chances of surviving will be greater. Expecially in Hard Core where its is 1 shot kills you(theoritically)right now with the old Sata drive I have had to use(Approx) 1/2 clip just to get them to die.
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