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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 08:04:44
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Video Cards:
I like the hybrid cards, but I am wondering how I will be able to fit two of them in my case. I am also wondering if there will be enough room between the cards for all the components that come with the hybrid cooling system.
I guess that would depend on the MB PCIe spacing, but I doubt you'd have any issues with the EVGA's MB and you definitely should not have any issues placing those radiators in that case.
Besides the hybrid cards, what top-of-the-line card(s) (I plan on running two in SLI) can you recommend that will crush any game at max setting that I throw at it? Is the 980ti supposed to be better than the TITAN?
I can't say they are better than the Titans because I've never had them, but from my research pound for pound they are right there but with 6gb vs 12gp vram, but half the cost.
Storage:
Is it necessary and/or beneficial to keep them separate? Or is that just personal preference?
It's personal preference for me because I know that these games required lots of space and it will eventually fill up the drive. I always figured it would slow things down, but I'm not sure if that's applicable with SSDs.
OS:
What OS do you recommend? And how can I keep it running as smooth as Mac OS? I always had a lot of trouble with my last system because of all the malicious software issues.
I use Win7 Pro because it works for me. I still have the Win10 free upgrade sitting here and will decide before July whether to install it or not. I'm waiting for all or most of the bugs to be worked out. Note: I have not check out any Win10 info lately though, so take my comment with a grain of salt.
I know you have the 5960 in mind, but Microcenter has the 5820K for $299 and since you are doing 2x SLI this will work for you and save some dough. i7 5820k SSDs: I'd go with at least 256gb SSD for the OS system and other programs. A 120gb SSD will fill up pretty quick. I have a 120 in my Moms systems and it's getting quite full and it has nowhere near the programs I have on my 256gb SSD. I use the 850 Pro 256gb for the OS and programs, 850 Evo 500gb for my games and the WD 4gb HHD for storage. The 500gb SSD is full already with just a few games, so the 1Tb is a good choice.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 08:20:47
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What is the advantage of the Pro over the Evo? I compared them on Newegg, but I can't figure out what is so much better about it.
850 EVO to 850 PRO - the PRO is a little bit faster, but is rated for about 2x the write endurance because of the memory chips that are used, a tri-core controller, and has a 10 year warranty. Is that a big deal - probably not in the grand scheme of things, but after the issues with the 840 EVO I think the TLC drives need more time to be out.
The 950 PRO that Sajin recommended OR the Intel drive that DAVE2HOT4U recommended are MUCH faster than the 850 or pretty much any SSD out there. 850 speeds - 566/533MBs vs 2252/1230MBs (Read/Write). Again is it going to be THAT noticeable in real-world use maybe not - but you're already going full-out on the rest of the build might as well go all-out everywhere. 
Another thing I noticed was your RAM is 2x8 sticks... someone please correct me if wrong as I'm not too familiar with X99 - but isn't it quad channel? If that's the case I think you'd want a kit that comes with 4 RAM sticks instead of 2.
My research have showed that the X99 board is a bit better off with the quad memory; so 4x 4gb.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 08:31:22
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What is the advantage of the Pro over the Evo? I compared them on Newegg, but I can't figure out what is so much better about it.
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No he is correct on memory. It shows his post as DDR4 memory which is Quad, just newer style, early sicks were 4GB those are 8 GB. Those are dual channel. These are quad channel rams. Op go with these instead of the 2x 8gb. or better yet go with the 32gb version. I assume if you need a 5960x the little more memory may be needed for your type of work. Note: If you order from Performance PC use the following code for a 5.5% discount (saves on shipping cost): OCN55.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 09:51:49
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What is the advantage of the Pro over the Evo? I compared them on Newegg, but I can't figure out what is so much better about it.
850 EVO to 850 PRO - the PRO is a little bit faster, but is rated for about 2x the write endurance because of the memory chips that are used, a tri-core controller, and has a 10 year warranty. Is that a big deal - probably not in the grand scheme of things, but after the issues with the 840 EVO I think the TLC drives need more time to be out.
The 950 PRO that Sajin recommended OR the Intel drive that DAVE2HOT4U recommended are MUCH faster than the 850 or pretty much any SSD out there. 850 speeds - 566/533MBs vs 2252/1230MBs (Read/Write). Again is it going to be THAT noticeable in real-world use maybe not - but you're already going full-out on the rest of the build might as well go all-out everywhere.
Another thing I noticed was your RAM is 2x8 sticks... someone please correct me if wrong as I'm not too familiar with X99 - but isn't it quad channel? If that's the case I think you'd want a kit that comes with 4 RAM sticks instead of 2.
Those PCI-Express SSD's are quite pricey. I feel like one of those PCI-express 1 TB SSD's for storage and another smaller one for the OS would push me outside the limits of my budget. Thanks for pointing out the thing about my RAM. I guess I will get 4*8 GB sticks with a total of 32 GB in order to take advantage of the board's quad channel support. The board supports a total of 128 GB, but the CPU I picked out only supports up to 64 GB. So, if I ever want to max out my ram, I'd just need to buy another set of 4*8 GB sticks.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 09:54:11
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Those PCI-Express SSD's are quite pricey. I feel like one of those PCI-express 1 TB SSD's for storage and another smaller one for the OS would push me outside the limits of my budget.
If you're interesting in the PCIe or M.2 SSDs I would only get one for the smaller OS drive. Leave the large 1TB one as a regular SATA for games and stuff. Also - with 32GB of RAM - you'll probably be set for years to come. I have 16GB and rarely go over 50% usage.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/23 12:35:21
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Sorry, but I'm a bit confused now. Let's say I try to play Batman: Arkham Knight or Witcher 3 with this rig on max settings and 4k resolution, will I experience smooth game play, or will I lag often?
Can you recommend a 4k monitor? Nothing over 30".
What SSD can you recommend? I don't want to skimp out on that part of my build, and I don't want a mediocre SSD to bottleneck performance.
#1 lagging often will depend on your fps tolerance.
#2 4k monitor
#3 A regular sata 3 (6GB/s) ssd isn't going to botteneck your system performance unless your doing large file transfers. If you plan on doing large file transfers go with this drive. If you're just gaming go with any regular sata 3 (6GB/s) ssd like a intel 730.
Sweet. Thanks for the help. I updated my parts listed in the original post. Would you be able to look it over and let me know what you think? i.e. Will the two hybrid video cards fit well in that case? are the keyboard and mouse any good? Is the CPU cooler I chose fine?
What OS do you recommend?
Just looked it over, everything looks fine to me except for a few things. Video cards should fit for sure. Keyboard and mouse are good. I would change the cpu cooler to a swiftech h320 x2 or h320 x2 prestige. I would change the ram to this quad channel memory kit to take advantage of quad channel memory performance as your current ram kit will limit you to dual channel mode.  Here are my 5960x temps running at 4.4GHz @ 1.3v with the older H320...  The above temps were after a one hour asus realbench stress test.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/25 19:20:32
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/25 19:25:13
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IMO that is WAY too much money for a 60hz monitor. Also a little patience my friend, intel is coming out with 4 new 2011-v3 chips that are going to be 20% faster than the current lineup.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/25 19:39:56
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IMO that is WAY too much money for a 60hz monitor. Also a little patience my friend, intel is coming out with 4 new 2011-v3 chips that are going to be 20% faster than the current lineup.
Rumored to be 20% faster.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/25 20:21:50
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IMO that is WAY too much money for a 60hz monitor. Also a little patience my friend, intel is coming out with 4 new 2011-v3 chips that are going to be 20% faster than the current lineup.
Rumored to be 20% faster.
That being said doesn't Pascal and Polaris come out before years end?
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/26 13:24:54
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IMO that is WAY too much money for a 60hz monitor. Also a little patience my friend, intel is coming out with 4 new 2011-v3 chips that are going to be 20% faster than the current lineup.
Rumored to be 20% faster.
That being said doesn't Pascal and Polaris come out before years end?
Hope so.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/26 13:39:51
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Wait for Intel 10nm Kaby Lake to come out next year, est 2nd quarter.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/26 14:05:38
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Wait for Intel 10nm Kaby Lake to come out next year, est 2nd quarter.
That is really the worst thing about building a pc, you get the best thing then later you find out there is something better. Me and Kanti once talked about it and we are waiting on affordable 5ghz base clock intels before upgrading from x58.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/26 14:16:49
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Wait for Intel 10nm Kaby Lake to come out next year, est 2nd quarter.
That is really the worst thing about building a pc, you get the best thing then later you find out there is something better. Me and Kanti once talked about it and we are waiting on affordable 5ghz base clock intels before upgrading from x58.
You're right all about that. It is. I find it, however, to be more "strategically" defining to wait every 4 generations of CPUs before you upgrade. If you can stretch it, make it 5. Then you know you got your value's worth. I jumped to an ivy bridge from a Core 2 Quad, and kept my 470's for 5 years. I probably won't upgrade these 980s until Nvidia releases Volta. But, wife and I are thinking about making an AMD machine when they release Zen, using all MSI. Not sure yet...
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/26 14:47:17
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Wait for Intel 10nm Kaby Lake to come out next year, est 2nd quarter.
That is really the worst thing about building a pc, you get the best thing then later you find out there is something better. Me and Kanti once talked about it and we are waiting on affordable 5ghz base clock intels before upgrading from x58.
You're right all about that. It is. I find it, however, to be more "strategically" defining to wait every 4 generations of CPUs before you upgrade. If you can stretch it, make it 5. Then you know you got your value's worth. I jumped to an ivy bridge from a Core 2 Quad, and kept my 470's for 5 years. I probably won't upgrade these 980s until Nvidia releases Volta. But, wife and I are thinking about making an AMD machine when they release Zen, using all MSI. Not sure yet...
Started with a I7 920 with a 132-bl-e758 rig in description still runs great friend uses it, w3540 on a ud9 to a x5650 same mobo. Just steadily upgrading the chip and gpus. At the moment using a single 290 since alot of games don't support sli or crossfire. My wife and kids systems are x58 also. Man the zen APU's won't require a gpu for ps4 and xbone one like graphics. I would love to go with a smaller system with a bulky gpu maybe custom case and water loop.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/26 22:03:36
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IMO that is WAY too much money for a 60hz monitor. Also a little patience my friend, intel is coming out with 4 new 2011-v3 chips that are going to be 20% faster than the current lineup.
Well, that just makes this decision that much more difficult. If I keep waiting for the "perfect time to buy", I feel like I'll be waiting for a very long time.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/27 03:36:44
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With that set-up, I'd change the monitor to a Acer Predator monitor like the X34.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/27 10:55:14
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With that set-up, I'd change the monitor to a Acer Predator monitor like the X34.
I'm up in the air myself with variable refresh rate gsync and free sync tech, doesn't that increase input lag? That's why I went for the VG248QE.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/29 19:11:03
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GloR1ouS_
IMO that is WAY too much money for a 60hz monitor. Also a little patience my friend, intel is coming out with 4 new 2011-v3 chips that are going to be 20% faster than the current lineup.
Well, that just makes this decision that much more difficult. If I keep waiting for the "perfect time to buy", I feel like I'll be waiting for a very long time.
Don't worry about it. Since you have no fps tolerance 60 hz @ 4k will be fine for you. The screen also has g-sync.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/03/30 05:05:09
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That's a whole lot of waiting and hoping.
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Re: Looking to build a gaming rig that will easily run all games on max settings
2016/04/02 08:51:50
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I would go 5930k 40 lanes it does make a difference for SLI True 16x16 to the CPU. The monitor I would go with is the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q IPS 2K. 2k is the sweet spot right now.
I had the 4k version the 60 Hz refresh rate is noticeably slower in games over 165 Hz of the PG279Q. The extra pixels are not worth the slower response time in my opinion. I have two GTX 980 Kingpins
and I was getting over 120 FPS in battlefield 4 on the 4k display. I get 160 plus FPS on the 2k display. Both monitors have G-Sync.
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