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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/03 16:36:31 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Gold Leader 2013/10/10 07:45:04
Check out this read.
 
http://www.techpowerup.com/128276/gf100-512-core-graphics-card-tested-against-geforce-gtx-480.html
 
This is a link to the driver number in gpu-z screenshot.
 
http://news.softpedia.com...cs-Driver-148074.shtml
 
Might give those drivers a try. Nice find btw!
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/03 17:26:06 (permalink)
Gold Leader,do not know if this helps,but i have a GTX 590 that i put a water block on a few years ago.
Still have some picks take a look.
There are two connectors on the pcb the green circle one is for the fan and the red one is for the leds.
You can see the led connector is a four pin connector.


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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/03 23:03:48 (permalink)
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Check out this read.
 
http://www.techpowerup.com/128276/gf100-512-core-graphics-card-tested-against-geforce-gtx-480.html
 
This is a link to the driver number in gpu-z screenshot.
 
http://news.softpedia.com...cs-Driver-148074.shtml
 
Might give those drivers a try. Nice find btw!


Wow many thanks!, Although I think the card I have might be more buggy than thought :) It seems to be a late Rev.A1 or an early Rev.A2. the card from Loschwerg is a Rev.A2 from week 01, 2010, my card is most likely a Rev.A2 and it's from week 50 year 2009! Which makes this a great find alike :)
 
It might be possible that I would need to disable Aero from Win7Pro x64, maybe I need Vista, I just don't know yet xD
Many thanks for your help there, that is surely worth trying
 
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Wow, that is strange, J5 is the 4 pinned connector which I thought was the fan connector, the Led connector has 2 pins, as the 480 went, heh odd there.
 
Here the GTX 480 ES PCB, the Lime Green Circle shows the White 2 pinned Led Power Connector, which is J8 as where the yellow circle shows the Black 4 Pin Fan Power Connector, which is J6:

 
Here those same exact location on my GTX 480 ES:

You can clearly see that J6 which is the Black 4 pin Fan Power Connector is connected to the fan's power connector it's self. J8 is to power the Leds for the GeForce led Logo.
 
So due to that, I find it very strange that the GTX 590 is the other way around, it could be that you are confused, since for the fan you need 4 pins, 1 for positive & 1for negative flow, 1 for ground and 1 for rpm.
 
So I am thinking J8 on your card is the Led Power Connector and J5 the Fan Power Connector, it would make more sense that way. Green is Led Power Connector, Yellow of the Fan Power Connector:

 
Due to this, it would make more sense if J8 which I circled in red on your image, to be the Led Power Connector and J5, which you circled in green, to be the Fan Power Connector, due to the Quad Pin layout.
 
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/04 01:54:22 (permalink)
GREAT NEWS!!!!!!
 
IT REALLY WORKS!!!!!!
Yeah I freaked out and I became UBAR happy for a bit there xDDDD hahaha xDDDD
 
Kram36 you made my day mate!!!! I also used GPU-Z 0.4.4 first, just to make sure it worked, after that I used GPU-Z 0.7.3 and o issues at all :)
 
So! YES!! I am about to reveal a GTX 480 no one has seen outside NVIDIA Cooperation!
 
Most of us might thing a GF100 VGA card and 1536MB 384Bit GDDR5, well I am about to reveal it's secrets!
 
Here my GPU-Z & Driver info screenshot!

 
Well it does have 480 CUDA Cores BUT it has 1280MB 320 Bit GDDR5!!!!
So Actually it's like what a GTX 570 has become... Talk about weird right!
 
So this is what it is + some specs:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 PCI-E 1280MB 320Bit GDDR5 Rev.A2 5009 Gamma Board / Engineering Sample
GPU Speed = 527Mhz instead of 700Mhz
CUDA Core Speed = 1053Mhz instead of 1401 Mhz
Ram Speed is 700Mhz instead of 924Mhz
 
Talk about being entirely different!!! Maybe this card was used to design the GTX 470 & GTX 570 as a later reuse of this old idea?
Everest Ultimate is next, if any of you know other programs I can use to reveal it's inner self, please post them , So far I thank Kram36 greatly for finding that vital information!!!
 
Update!
 
After running Fire6.exe from Ex-3dfxEngineer Hank Semenec, this program was to stability test 3dfx Engineering Samples, and I was sure this was the tool to begin with as 3D went.
Fire6.exe ran dead stable with FSAA x32, AF x16 + TAA x8 Super Sampled, as you can see here:

 
After that I was very confident that I could get some games going, I chose Dirt2, as being this is the first DX11 game made and I was sure it would run it just fine.
 
The settings I used was the following:
 
max details in DX11 Mode + FSAA x8 AF x16 + TAA x4 Super Sampled.
In some places you could see that 1280MB 320Bit GDDR5 wasn't enough, as if the card ran out of ram xDDD But besides that the card ran dead stable and there was no screen issues like page tearing, banding or heavy glitching throughout the game.
 
Here I made a two 1080p video's of the GTX 480 Rev.A2 5009 in action:
 
GTX 480 Rev.A2 5009 ES Test Run 01:

 
GTX 480 Rev.A2 5009 ES Test Run 02:

 
They were made, just to verify you all that I have a stable functioning Rev.A2 Engineering Sample of the GTX 480
This is as real as it is going to get, of a functioning GTX 480 ES with 1280MB 320Bit GDDR5, so far this card has never been put online in such detail
 
I was also able to get BarsWF x64 CUDA Client running:
 
Here of the GTX 480 ES:

 
Here of the EVGA GTX 480, just to compare:

 
This is what you get when booting the system:

 
You get that cool looking white boarder around the primary image and during the Windows Startup sequence, the image is disrupted with vertical lines, when using a different driver than 258.96 WHQL your desktop will look like this also and then when you move the mouse about it's like MS Paint, as you can draw around with the mouse.
 
The only driver that is stable in Windows is 258.96 WHQL, the only place I get them vertical lines is during the Starting Windows Sequence, for the rest it looks normal and healthy.
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/05 11:09:24 (permalink)
As the VRAM goes of the GTX 480 ES, which I have; well I have been asking around and Löschzwerg from Voodooalert.de came with the following:
 
"About the VRAM and memory interface. There are many different GF100 ES cards out there. I know of a card that has 512 cores but only an 320 bit interface. NV probably did this to see how a limitation of bandwidth would affect the performance. The Fermi architecture was a very big step and therefore needed a lot of different test setups."
 
Which makes perfect sense 
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/05 16:41:09 (permalink)
Super! What are the temps like on this card?
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/05 22:59:46 (permalink)
Pretty high actually, well in workloads when playing games it gets around 83C, might seem low, but when knowing that the GPGPU only runs 527Mhz instead of 700Mhz and the Shaders 1053Mhz instead of 1401Mhz, it's kinda crazy then xD 
 
In Idle mode it doesn't get much better either, the fan always throttles slowly up to about 73% fan speed, and the GPGPU is then 73C, 1rpm = 1C, that is how the scale is.
NV probably made it do this for a reason haha, the temp in Idle is  about 73C xD
 
What I also noticed is that the GPGPU, CUDA Cores like VRAM don't throttle down when in Windows Desktop, they always function at their max speed. hmm.
as you can see here a snapshot I took from GPU-Z showing the temps, voltages and speeds of all the parts within the GTX 480 Rev.A2 5009 ES:

 
But when playing games the Load temp does not go beyond the 83C, Can recheck this, but that is better than the Production model well as load temps go, even that it's GPGPU & CUDA Cores run lots slower, so I guess NV was aiming for those load temps for later models, but then realizing what could happen if this GF100-375-A2 would run @ 700Mhz with this cooler temps could go beyond the 120C with the HSF it was using at it's time.
 
So here my theory:
 
The GF100-375-A2 boards were clocked so lwo to avoid heat instability issues and the reason why NV changed the stock cooler so drastically was for the later Rev.A3's of the GF100 to stay stable under workloads with much higher clocks.
Due to the cooler change and revision change of the GF100 it's self, NV was able to get the temps down from 120C+ to 89C. which was a major improvement.
Although I think they did discuss the idea of giving the production model of the GTX 480 a Vapor Chamber in combination with heatpipes, which could of been better for the GTX 480 idle & load temps, then they could of gotten it to 83C under load like my A2 is doing right now.
But since this would only cost too much money production wise, they left the Vapor chamber idea out, I think anyways.
 
But yeah it would be nice to find this out too, in the future I hope to obtain more GTX 480 engineering Samples and research and discover them like I am doing with this A2. To obtain a Rev.A0 Alpha Card would be my biggest dream, these are the very first ever made functional GTX 480's, they were made around week 34 of 2009, back in a time when the GTX 285, GTX 275, GTX 295 & GTX 260 C216 were still being mass produced.
 
Back then the GF100 was known as GT300-400-A0, as successor of the never released GT212-400-A0/A1.
The GT212 was a GT200 with DX10.1 support, and it would probably have had about 256 to 384 CUDA Cores, not much is known of the GT212, but I do think that NV made a few functional Engineering Samples that had GT212's on them.
 
Update!
 
Now it's 08:58 AM, which about 1 hour and 13 minutes later, the idle temp just fluctuates between 76 & 77C with a RPM that fluctuates between 76 & 77 rpm.
Here some pics showing you what is going on:
 
76C & 77rpm

 
77C & 76rpm

 
And it just stays there, so after this I played Miencraft for about 5 hours and the load temps did not pass the 81C, the production model would get around 89C, so this is probably due to the low GPU & CUDA Core clocks this GTX 480 ES has
When I play Dirt2 the temps get to about 83C but it never passes the 83C load temp mark, which is pretty good, as where the Production models would easily pass the 90C mark at that point, that is when playing DX11 games like Dirt2 for example
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2013/10/09 11:04:31 (permalink)
Here some pics of a GTX 480 ES Rev.A1 4109:
 
Top view:

 
Rear view:

 
Closeup of the hand done rework & J503, a 7 pinned connector, pic shows 8 holes, but 7 of 8 are connected, J503 was used to debug the card's GF100 & Bios chip, it may also have been used to program them, but that is well worth finding out!

 
Here a closeup of the rear end, showing them famous PCB holes , which even the productions models also have:

 
I still seek this card and hopefully one day I will acquire it
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/02/19 03:14:35 (permalink)
Well great news today my EVGA friends!!!!
 
After 3 years and 5 months trying to find me a GTX 480 ES with a geForce led Logo, now a good 1 year later I have the missing GeForce Led Module attached to my GTX 480 ES !!!!
Many thanks go to Loschzwerg from Voodooalert.de for making me the GeForce led Module!
 
Now here some pics of the Led Module and it mounted on the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 PCI-E 1280MB 320Bit GDDR5 Rev.A2 5009 Engineering Sample !!!
 
Here my GTX 480 ES with it's Shroud disassembled and the GeForce Led Module ready for placement:

 
Here the other side of the GeForce Led Module showing the three led lights which Loschzwerg attached to a piece of PCB which he made to apply the three leds to:

 
Here the GeForce Led Module in it's place, on how it would be arranged

 
Here a shot taken from the other side, the GeForce Logo would neatly light up, well that is the idea!

 
This is where you connect the power connector of the GeForce Led Module to the GTX 480 Engineering Sample's Led Power Connector which is located at J8:

 
Here the GeForce Led Module connected to J8

 
Here the shroud reapplied and the GeForce Led Module in place

 
Here a clearer shot of the GeForce Led Module in place and how the power cord leads to J8:

 
Here the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 PCI-E 1280MB 320Bit GDDR5 Rev.A2 5009 Engineering Sample in all it's glory, this is how NVIDIA planned to make the GTX 480 look like at first, before it has issues with the company that was going to provide NVIDIA the leds for the GTX 480 cards!

 
And here an other shot of the GeForce Led Logo in all it's glory! 

This image was taken without the flasher, even that it is not easy to get these pics right though
 
So yeah mission accomplished as this goes, my research is now finally complete, this was well worth finding out and also obtaining one of the first GeForce cards that came with GeForce Led Logo's that could light up with a GeForce Led Module, yet I wonder how the led Modules on the Keplers look like, hereby I mean these cards:
 
GeForce GTX 690
GeForce GTX 770
GeForce GTX 780
GeForce GTX Titan
GeForce GtX 780 Ti
Geforce GTX Titan Black
GeForce GTX Titan Z
 
I also wonder how the GeForce led Module on a GTX 590 looks like, since it's translucent Geforce led Logo is identical to the one this GTX 480 ES has
 
Are they similar to my GTX 480 Engineering Sample, or smaller or completely different?
 
Many thanks for reading
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/02/19 05:07:22 (permalink)
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/02/19 05:17:43 (permalink)
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/05/03 05:39:43 (permalink)
Here a new photo I took of the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 PCI-E 1280MB 320Bit GDDR5 Rev.A2 5009 Engineering Sample in action with it's GeForce Led Logo!!

This is probably the best photo if I ever took of it as well!


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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/05/03 08:34:12 (permalink)
Loschzwerg from Voodooalert.de should have used heat shrink instead of electrical tape if you wanted it to have a refined seemingly factory look.

Edit: of not or
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/05/03 11:28:39 (permalink)
Erm that black tape is electrical tape And the advantage is that this is easier to maintain But the effect is the same and some GTX 480 Engineering Samples had the leds done this way, so that being said it's not lacking anything from an original Engineering Sample for that matter, this is still 1 of 5 in the world with functioning Leds within collectors hands and I am very proud of being the owner of this ultra rare, all thanks to Loschzwerg for getting them Leds made as well
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/05/03 13:10:36 (permalink)
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Erm that black tape is electrical tape And the advantage is that this is easier to maintain But the effect is the same and some GTX 480 Engineering Samples had the leds done this way, so that being said it's not lacking anything from an original Engineering Sample for that matter, this is still 1 of 5 in the world with functioning Leds within collectors hands and I am very proud of being the owner of this ultra rare, all thanks to Loschzwerg for getting them Leds made as well


Yes, I understand that it is electrical tape. But companies don't use electrical tape; they use black heat shrink. If you unwrapped that tape and slipped on some heatshrink and shrunk it down with a lighter or heat gun, the ten minute job would make it look a lot more legitimate. For comparison, do the video card power wires have electrical tape or heat shrink at the end? It doesn't reduce maintainability at all; you can cut heatshrink off at any time.

Edit: look at my edit above. 'Of' not 'or'.

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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/05/03 13:34:15 (permalink)
Yeah true thing is I can't do such things due to my Chronic Illness my hands are too shaky and I would only break things as for how Loschzerg done it, he did it for free for me, I am pretty sure he knows what he is doing, it is fine the way it is, the function is the same and most say --> If it works, why fix it?
 
But I know what you mean, my 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A 3700 Engineering Sample had them Black Heat Shrinks done for it's Internal Power Connectors, which was done by Sir Hank Semenec, Ex-3dfx Engineer, wo also took part of the 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 & 3dfx Daytona Programs:

 
Here the closeup:

 
But not to worry I only let people I tust fix my hardware for that matter and I know Loschzwerg all too well, he has the ability to even do BGA reflows for that matter
He did a fine job on my GTX 480 ES, no need to question him for his work either, I am Obi-Wan Kenobi from x-3dfx FYI, I have a lot of 3dfx, NVIDIA< EVGA & AMD Contacts that do similar things as such things go, this isn't new for me dude.
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/05/19 20:32:10 (permalink)
Gold Leader I just wanted to say I really enjoyed the thread and your excitement for the engineering samples really shines through your posts. It was fantastic to get to see some photos of those. To a technological laymen like myself, the most fascinating aspect to me was just has drastically different the cooler for the Geforce GTX 480 engineering samples were.
 
The retail card's cooler is completely different. This was a great thread. I usually just lurk but I really wanted to express my gratitude and appreciation for posting such detailed pictures of something most of us will never see.
Thanks!
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2014/05/25 07:48:19 (permalink)
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Gold Leader I just wanted to say I really enjoyed the thread and your excitement for the engineering samples really shines through your posts. It was fantastic to get to see some photos of those. To a technological laymen like myself, the most fascinating aspect to me was just has drastically different the cooler for the Geforce GTX 480 engineering samples were.
 
The retail card's cooler is completely different. This was a great thread. I usually just lurk but I really wanted to express my gratitude and appreciation for posting such detailed pictures of something most of us will never see.
Thanks!


Many thanks for your kind reply Burke888
 
Well I always was very in to Engineering Samples, mainly from 3dfx in my old days, you might love to give this thread a read too 
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2030876
 
Lots of my 3dfx material can be found in that thread, where my passion for VGA card collecting all began and the multiple layouts of the Voodoo Table which I now name the VGA Table
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Re:Leds on GTX 580 cards, reminds me of the following.. 2017/01/08 02:13:30 (permalink)
Here the entire system complete:
Firefox SMP 2006
2x Dual Core AMD OpteronDP 285 E6 Italy Server CPU's, 4x 2.6Ghz, 4x 1MB L2
2x Scythe Shuriken Heatsink with 2x Enermax 92mm x 92mm x25mm White Ledded Twister fans for the CPU's
ASUS K8N-DL NVIDIA NForce 2200 Professional chipset
4x 2048MB PC-3200 ECC Reg Dual Rank Micron Tech, Dual Channel DDR400 per Dual Core CPU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 PCI-E 1280MB 320Bit GDDR5 Rev.A2 5009 Engineering Sample with GeForce Led Logo in Function!
Auzentech X-Fi Prelude 7.1 PCI 64MB XRAM
Sony 3.5" FDD Drive
NEC ND-2500A DVD Re-Writer 8x/4x UATA-133
Western Digital 300GB/16MB Cache Velociraptor 10.000 RPM HDD
Western Digital 2TB/64MB Cache RAID Edition 4 Data Center Series 7.200 RPM HDD (Storage)
Broadcom 1000 MBit Ethernet RJ45 Lan Jack
Silver Stone Strider Plus 850 WATT Modular PSU
Lian Li PC-7FN Midi Tower
Lian-Li W-LM2AB-1 Black Side Window Panel
2x 30 cm Blue CCFL's from Sharkoon
2x 30 cm Green CCFL's from Sharkoon
1x Blue Ledded Lian Li 120mm x 120mm x25mm Front Fan
1x Red /Blue /Green Ledded Antec Tri-Cool 120mm x 120mm x25mm Rear Fan
Hewlett Packard ZR24w 24" S-IPS Panel - 16:10 Aspect Ratio - Max Resolution: 1920 x 1200 x32 @ 60 Herz
 
Win7Pro x64 UK + SP1
NVIDIA ForceWare 258.96 Beta4


Here pics of Firefox SMP 2006:

 
Side:

 
GTX 480 ES Closeup:

 
Side closeup:

 
Bootup of GTX 480 ES:

Note the white boarder, very typical with NVIDIA Engineering Samples.
 
Boot Screen:

 
Specs of CPU & GPGPU + Task & Device Managers:



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