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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/06 21:53:24
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I really wish the Broadwell 6+ core processors were able to be overlocked as far as these 6700k/7700k 4 cores are going. Sadly my 6800k can only hit 4.4GHz. Until games start being made to fully utilize 6+ core + multi threaded, these 4 core drag racers are going to be the best performers by far. Makes me think about buying a new 7700k and a new mobo to use as it's going to increase performance drastically if I could hit 5Ghz compared to my 6core at 4.4.
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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/06 22:49:49
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ARIOS-X1 I really wish the Broadwell 6+ core processors were able to be overlocked as far as these 6700k/7700k 4 cores are going. Sadly my 6800k can only hit 4.4GHz. Until games start being made to fully utilize 6+ core + multi threaded, these 4 core drag racers are going to be the best performers by far. Makes me think about buying a new 7700k and a new mobo to use as it's going to increase performance drastically if I could hit 5Ghz compared to my 6core at 4.4.
I never bought into the broadwell range. A few seconds shaved on content creation and better swirling box's on cinebench r15. The I7 6700k is better for gaming and is very able to content create. I await the multi core attacks
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ARIOS-X1
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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/07 06:15:26
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I know what you mean. I have a brother who makes a lot of videos and he has an old AMD machine. I let him render his vids on my system and he is like a kid in a candy store lol. On his rig it might take like 35-45 mins for a 5min video on mine it's less than 5mins, so atleast it's doing it's job well as a content creator. I think starting next year about 30-45% of the new games being made will start being desinged for more than 4/8 cores due to AMD launching Zen and well Kaby Lake may see a 6/12 core for those new chipsets, if they would that would be great because it would finally bring the 6 core for intel out of the damn enthusiast line which is dumb. To have a 6 core processor be considered enthusiast is nonsense for current modern technology. if Intel makes a 6/12 core chip for the 200 series chispet that would be some great news for the future of things along with gaming.
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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/07 06:18:16
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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/08 08:18:18
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Supposedly? It's a refresh, i.e. Haswell Refresh worked in 8-series boards with a BIOS update-- except no one would buy a "Skylake Refresh" if it were named that way since Haswell Refresh didn't do that well, so they rebranded it (as "Kaby Lake") and added features in the chipset to make new boards worth getting, like the Intel 9-series boards got the first version of M.2 sockets at 10Gbps. You guys can't be naive about this, 10nm Cannonlake is delayed by a year, Intel needs to make sure Skylake sells in between and calling it a Refresh would not have helped. It's a big'ol DUH that Kaby Lake would have no issue with 100-series chipsets with a BIOS update, I don't get the "OMG it's new" mode people have about it. ARIOS-X1 I really wish the Broadwell 6+ core processors were able to be overclocked as far as these 6700k/7700k 4 cores are going. Sadly my 6800k can only hit 4.4GHz. Until games start being made to fully utilize 6+ core + multi threaded, these 4 core drag racers are going to be the best performers by far. Makes me think about buying a new 7700k and a new mobo to use as it's going to increase performance drastically if I could hit 5Ghz compared to my 6core at 4.4. Do you really need to overclock, or do you like the higher frequency? Let's say Intel made a high frequency non-K part, faster than even the K parts could get to, would it be an option for you? In my mind, that's a possible future for Intel's Client platform, while shifting overclockable high-core count to their HEDT platforms.
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ARIOS-X1
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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/08 14:42:42
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lehpron: Do you really need to overclock, or do you like the higher frequency? Let's say Intel made a high frequency non-K part, faster than even the K parts could get to, would it be an option for you? In my mind, that's a possible future for Intel's Client platform, while shifting overclockable high-core count to their HEDT platforms.
I acutally need the overclock and higher frequency. For the chips, It would depend on how much faster the non-k could reach. If I could go further with an OC'd K I would do that instead, and I'd have to look at the comparison benchmarks before I would make my final decision. Cooling/Temps/Chip lifespan is not much of a concern for me so the non K would really have to be a lot faster. For example, I am curently playing Skyrim Enderal and it only utilizes 5 cores, I have 6 with 12 threads. With my CPU at 3.8GHz my FPS in an area was 41. OC'd to 4.4GHz it was 48. that's more than 1 FPS per 100MHz increasement. If I could hit 5Ghz that would be up from 48 to 54. That's a lot closer to my goal of steady 60 FPS.
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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/10 03:35:43
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Hmmmm... Are you using an overclocked Broadwell-E to play Skyrim and you are not getting 60FPS? What GPU are you using and what resolution are you playing? I don't play Enderal mod, but I use a dual Xeon (Old and good Sandy bridge tech, no overclock here) over a heavy moded Skyrim at 1440p on ultra and my GTX1080 don't need to reach max turbo to play at 60FPS (I play with VSync ON. the CPUs are between 3.1/3.3GHz boost clocks). I must try Enderal to see if its so taxing in my system. Years ago I was overclocking CPUs thinking that it will give me some gains in gaming, but now I prefer stable systems and a powerfull GPU and be a happy 60FPS camper. Overcloking CPUs for me is have marginal gains, upping your temps/power bill for a few FPS in return. If you like benchmaking and world records, that is another different history, but sorely for the sake of gaming, I think overclocking CPUs is unnecessary. Only my .2
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Re: Kaby lake's supposed overclocks on z170
2016/11/10 06:20:55
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Well yes I am getting 60FPS I'd say around 70% of the time, but weirdly it can sometimes drop to the low 30's even 20's in certain areas. The game is clearly not well optimized. Gopher on YouTube did a comparison in performance over the original Skyrim and the SE edition and the new SE edition shows it's way better optimized for modern systems. You do make a good point about the CPU OC. I had been playing a bejesusly modded Fallout 4 with over 400+ active mods and that was where the OC started to really show and make a difference. After reading your statement, I'm going to keep my CPU at it's optimized default speeds of 3.8GHz and just see if I really notice and overall difference, probably won't, but thanks for your input
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