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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/08/29 17:14:47
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/08/31 06:34:58
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Here's my accumulated (do not install) list from last fall. Some of these are related to upgrading your Win7/8.1 to Win10 and some are tracking (telemetry) installs. KB3035583 KB2952664 KB2976978 KB2990214 KB3068708 KB3022345 KB2952264 KB3021917 KB3050265 KB2977759 KB3065987 KB3075851 KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3044374 KB2999226 KB3112343 KB3083710 KB3083324 KB3102810 KB3123862 KB3135449 KB3135445 KB3083324
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/08/31 07:32:15
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bdary Here's my accumulated (do not install) list from last fall. Some of these are related to upgrading your Win7/8.1 to Win10 and some are tracking (telemetry) installs. KB3035583 KB2952664 KB2976978 KB2990214 KB3068708 KB3022345 KB2952264 KB3021917 KB3050265 KB2977759 KB3065987 KB3075851 KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3044374
Thanks, I already sniped most of those out of my main Windows 7 PC. I did get gutsy and did a clean install of Windows 10 on my spare PC. Hardly any games or other software to reinstall on that one.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/08/31 19:41:20
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bdary Here's my accumulated (do not install) list from last fall. Some of these are related to upgrading your Win7/8.1 to Win10 and some are tracking (telemetry) installs. KB3035583 KB2952664 KB2976978 KB2990214 KB3068708 KB3022345 KB2952264 KB3021917 KB3050265 KB2977759 KB3065987 KB3075851 KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3044374
Thanks.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/08/31 20:35:26
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Great post! As things pop up, we should keep it current. I removed all on the list from my Windows 7 laptop...about 2/3 of them were installed...no more!
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/08/31 20:43:15
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Thanks Xray. One of these was installed and another was in line to download. Removed them both. Didnt see the other two though. bdary Here's my accumulated (do not install) list from last fall. Some of these are related to upgrading your Win7/8.1 to Win10 and some are tracking (telemetry) installs. KB3035583 KB2952664 KB2976978 KB2990214 KB3068708 KB3022345 KB2952264 KB3021917 KB3050265 KB2977759 KB3065987 KB3075851 KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3044374
Going to take a little while to go though all these and remove them if installed. Are they just "Update for Microsoft Windows" or does this include "Security Update for Microsoft Windows"?
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 05:14:11
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None of the KB's I listed above are security updates.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 06:57:25
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willem445 Are they just "Update for Microsoft Windows" or does this include "Security Update for Microsoft Windows"?
Normally security updates do not include tracking/telemetry data aggregation functions. If one were to have been found the netsec community would have already notified many of the sites relating to this issue. I've scanned through many of the security updates recently and have found nothing there which warrants keeping them from being installed currently.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 07:22:11
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Now windows 10 stuff is jacking with my Windows 7? From now on, nothing is getting installed unless I NEED it. If Linux wasn't so damn confusing to me, I would jump ship.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 07:22:20
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willem445 Are they just "Update for Microsoft Windows" or does this include "Security Update for Microsoft Windows"?
Normally security updates do not include tracking/telemetry data aggregation functions. If one were to have been found the netsec community would have already notified many of the sites relating to this issue. I've scanned through many of the security updates recently and have found nothing there which warrants keeping them from being installed currently.
Thanks. I wasnt sure and didnt want to sift though both types of updates to find the ones to delete.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 07:34:10
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I see my work is cut out for me this morning.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 08:32:46
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I found two that I had missed earlier. The bad news is that several that I had hidden came back like zombies from the dead. I gotta get some of those silver bullets or whatever they use for zombie attacks.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 09:35:34
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KB3065987 KB3050265 These keep coming back and I keep hiding them. Plus a new one today: KB2990214 which enables an easy upgrade to a new version of Windows Changed my windows update settings in Windows 7 to Manual
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 09:45:31
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These are the ones I had to hide again: KB2990214 KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3075851 KB3065987 was the only one that required a reboot and then I got a warning that Windows never checked for Updates.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 09:45:40
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oh cmon Microsoft has been tracking you since Windows 3.1 WFW
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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candle_86 oh cmon Microsoft has been tracking you since Windows 3.1 WFW
I use the process monitor tool in my Panda A/V software. It monitors and logs all running process and shows what connects to the internet as well as what site it connects to. When I'm running my Win7 OS, not one thing connects to the internet other than when I manually launch it. Like when I launch my browser (FF), or check for Aida64 updates, etc... Nothing automatically goes to MS. That cannot be said for Win10. There are still a few processes I haven't been able to kill yet to keep from reporting to MS automatically. That is the kind of "tracking" we're talking about here. Or at least I am. Many of Win10's "phone app" features need to use tracking type software to function properly, I get that. I just think all these type settings should be "opt-in" and not "opt-out". At least on a desktop environment. Turning off settings MS has built in is only half the battle. I've had to disable several services and change or disable items in the task scheduler as well to stop some of these things. Along with disallowing things in the firewall.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 13:00:07
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candle_86 oh cmon Microsoft has been tracking you since Windows 3.1 WFW
I use the process monitor tool in my Panda A/V software. It monitors and logs all running process and shows what connects to the internet as well as what site it connects to. When I'm running my Win7 OS, not one thing connects to the internet other than when I manually launch it. Like when I launch my browser (FF), or check for Aida64 updates, etc... Nothing automatically goes to MS. That cannot be said for Win10. There are still a few processes I haven't been able to kill yet to keep from reporting to MS automatically. That is the kind of "tracking" we're talking about here. Or at least I am. Many of Win10's "phone app" features need to use tracking type software to function properly, I get that. I just think all these type settings should be "opt-in" and not "opt-out". At least on a desktop environment. Turning off settings MS has built in is only half the battle. I've had to disable several services and change or disable items in the task scheduler as well to stop some of these things. Along with disallowing things in the firewall.
This exactly. I wish Microsoft would stop implementing the "Windows Phone/Tablet" features into the normal desktop OS and have a seperate OS available for phones/tablets/touch screen computers. I would love just a barebones OS without all the gimicks and "features" that 10 has.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/01 15:13:24
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candle_86 oh cmon Microsoft has been tracking you since Windows 3.1 WFW
I use the process monitor tool in my Panda A/V software. It monitors and logs all running process and shows what connects to the internet as well as what site it connects to. When I'm running my Win7 OS, not one thing connects to the internet other than when I manually launch it. Like when I launch my browser (FF), or check for Aida64 updates, etc... Nothing automatically goes to MS. That cannot be said for Win10. There are still a few processes I haven't been able to kill yet to keep from reporting to MS automatically. That is the kind of "tracking" we're talking about here. Or at least I am. Many of Win10's "phone app" features need to use tracking type software to function properly, I get that. I just think all these type settings should be "opt-in" and not "opt-out". At least on a desktop environment. Turning off settings MS has built in is only half the battle. I've had to disable several services and change or disable items in the task scheduler as well to stop some of these things. Along with disallowing things in the firewall.
This exactly. I wish Microsoft would stop implementing the "Windows Phone/Tablet" features into the normal desktop OS and have a seperate OS available for phones/tablets/touch screen computers. I would love just a barebones OS without all the gimicks and "features" that 10 has.
yes and production cost on developers would go up as they have to program for 2 separate platforms from the same company
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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In addition to the app suggested I would also recommend creating a hosts file with the following DNS entries to redirect the telemetry connections to a non-routable address so even if the settings change again from Microsoft the hosts entries (providing it is set to read-only) should keep the data from being sent. The list of the necessary entries is here and should be placed in a file called 'hosts' in the appropriate area. This will not, of course, prevent any applications of which the server address is hard coded into the application itself or the IP address is also contained within the application.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/02 08:42:40
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I think I used the "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" and it probably did destroy something since it warned the process couldn't be undone.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/04 09:15:51
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Nice job Zuhl...
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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A lot of Windows 7 users showing corrupt files using SFC after these last updates. I was too until I uninstalled all of those snooping updates.Now my SFC comes back clean. There was an update a while back that caused SFC to report corrupt files that were unable to be repaired by MS says there were no corrupt files but the some CAB files were placed in the wrong folder. All we have to go on is SFC to tell us whether our OS is good or not. By the time MS figured out what was going on and responded there were hundreds of thousands of users doing a clean install of Windows 7. I held off since my PC is stable. I was about to give up and reinstall 7 but then I found the official response from MS. A clean install is a PITA for me since it takes days to download and install my current favorite games.
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
2015/09/04 09:40:07
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Kind of backwards but now I have all updates turned off and I will go through and see which ones are even worth installing. I spent almost an hour removing windows 10 and windows 7 privacy invading crap yesterday and I think I'm good. Thanks for all this!
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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I decided to give Windows 10 another shot on my spare budget PC and now I can't restore my Windows 7 System image. I did finally run some benchmarks to make it 1k elegible like that's going to matter. It would be nice to build a romping stomping PC using EVGA parts but that's looking more and more out of reach. http://www.modsrigs.com/detail.aspx?BuildID=34751I got the CPU for a mere $10 as a combo purchase with the MSI Z97 PC Mate. It's only a G3258 but raising the multiplier to 42 boosted my WEI from 6.9 to 7.3 so I can't complain too much. I only use it when my main PC is Folding at Home. I use my TV as a monitor and I have to sit cross legged on the floor. Not an easy thing to do for very long at 59 years of age but I'm tough and can handle it. LOL
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Re: It’s not just Windows 10, Windows 7 and 8 are also tracking you.
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agent8 Now windows 10 stuff is jacking with my Windows 7? From now on, nothing is getting installed unless I NEED it. If Linux wasn't so damn confusing to me, I would jump ship.
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