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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/08/26 12:24:35 (permalink)
I was telling arokhantos that you had a new issue and you weren't saying RMA or refund over the whine, JONOX. I understood. 😉

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 02:18:31 (permalink)
Is this thread still alive?
I've got my 1080 FTW about 3 weeks ago, but I didn't want to stress it before I got it under water, and I only yesterday got the waterblock for it.
When I turned on the heat, the coil whine is like nothing I've heard before. It sounds like there is a hair trimmer turned on inside my PC. What do I do?

I'm running it with a Corsair AX860
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 07:13:22 (permalink)
I haven't had any coil whine for my 1080 FTW, in fact it seems to be the least of any card I have had in recent years. I had a good amount of whine with my MSI 780 Ti's. I do have a water block to put on this weekend, so I will see if this makes a difference. 
 
Limiting your FPS to 60 should help lower the whine or at least cap it to your monitors refresh. But if you have a monitor that has a high refresh rate, there is not much else you can do. I am still not sure if the PSU actually affects the whine, I would imagine less ripple in power delivery would prob help lessen the noise. 

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 08:17:49 (permalink)
I would consider my Corsair AX860 to be a premium PSU :/
And im running a 100 Hz monitor :/

Do anyone know if it possible to get a replacement card from evga even after the 14 day period?
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 09:18:37 (permalink)
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I would consider my Corsair AX860 to be a premium PSU :/
And im running a 100 Hz monitor :/

Do anyone know if it possible to get a replacement card from evga even after the 14 day period?



Maybe try to get it replaced by the vendor if possible. I would call EVGA also, it can't hurt. 

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 12:23:55 (permalink)
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Update: I've switched from the Corsair PSU CX 750 back to SeaSonic XP2 860W Platinum, and the coil whine is absolutely gone. 0 coil whine even at 165 fps. So the issue was the PSU in my case for sure.


I agree that it can be multiple issues which ultimately cause coil whine, but it does seem that your PSU plays a huge factor.  I've had cards with whine before in differing degrees, but on my current build I opted for a SeaSonic 860 watt Platinum XP2 power supply, and I haven't heard a peep of coil whine out of my current 1080 FTW.  I don't think the importance of having a good solid quality PSU can be overstated.

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 15:47:29 (permalink)
Guys, pardon my ignorance-- Is there a trusted vid on youtube of the proper *sound* of  really bothersome *coil-whining* on GPU's? I don't think I ever had the bad-luck of purchasing a *bad* card out the gate from the few I own from EVGA over the years.

Next-week, I plan to finally purchase either a 1070 or 1080, and upgrade from my recently RMA'ed gtx 980 SC replacement.



 

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 21:25:12 (permalink)
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Guys, pardon my ignorance-- Is there a trusted vid on youtube of the proper *sound* of  really bothersome *coil-whining* on GPU's?...

It's often a difficult sound to pick up with a microphone, thus difficult to record and reproduce.
 
My GTX1070 FTW is a bit noisy.
Not real happy with the noise, but unless better quality properly potted inductors are used then it's here to stay.
The first manufacturer to do this will likely win a few customers as it is a sign of better engineering and higher quality.
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/09/30 21:43:57 (permalink)
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Guys, pardon my ignorance-- Is there a trusted vid on youtube of the proper *sound* of  really bothersome *coil-whining* on GPU's?...

It's often a difficult sound to pick up with a microphone, thus difficult to record and reproduce.
 
My GTX1070 FTW is a bit noisy.
Not real happy with the noise, but unless better quality properly potted inductors are used then it's here to stay.
The first manufacturer to do this will likely win a few customers as it is a sign of better engineering and higher quality.



AHhhh, OK - Fair enough!

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/01 19:56:27 (permalink)
Had my 1070 ftw about a week now happy to say no coil whine at all. 
Been a great upgrade over my 780 and so quiet i love it :)
 
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/03 07:08:01 (permalink)
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Guys, pardon my ignorance-- Is there a trusted vid on youtube of the proper *sound* of  really bothersome *coil-whining* on GPU's?...

It's often a difficult sound to pick up with a microphone, thus difficult to record and reproduce.
 
My GTX1070 FTW is a bit noisy.
Not real happy with the noise, but unless better quality properly potted inductors are used then it's here to stay.
The first manufacturer to do this will likely win a few customers as it is a sign of better engineering and higher quality.



AHhhh, OK - Fair enough!




Usually the noise is more pronounced at a high FPS. Try running a benchmark or game at a very high FPS and you might hear a high pitch sound. 

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/03 15:42:17 (permalink)
I have a 1070 SC and my card does not produce any coil whine until I boost the GPU core to +120 or more. Which isn't a problem for me as I keep it a relatively mild +80/+200


 
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/04 04:28:17 (permalink)
I get coil whine when I use the automatic fan control with a custom curve, but then again, there are times I don't get any coil whine, at this moment in time, Im not hearing any coil whine. So a bit odd, as it can come and go.
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/04 09:52:11 (permalink)
Well there hasn't been many coil whine issues with the reference version F|E type cards, so I think you answered your own question.

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/09 07:17:54 (permalink)
I just finished burning in my 1070 FTW (>10 hours) and it still has noticeable coil whine when at high FPS. I'm using a corsair 450SFX which got great reviews in regard to its ripple so I am really leaning away to it being a PSU issue. What is the process of RMA-ing the card?
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/09 10:12:47 (permalink)
My 1080 SC has the worst coil whine I've ever encountered on an Nvidia GPU to date. I wonder if EVGA cheaped out on some of the components or something. It was so bad, I gave it to my best friend as a semi- free upgrade. He didn't care about the coil whine and I took his 980 Ti Hybrid. Win/Win.. now to sell this Hybrid...

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/09 10:33:33 (permalink)
The SC and ACX base model are the same PCB right? The FTW is different for sure.
 
My 1080 ACX 3.0 doesn't have coil whine - my Gigabyte 980 Ti did though.
 
 
 
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I just finished burning in my 1070 FTW (>10 hours) and it still has noticeable coil whine when at high FPS. I'm using a corsair 450SFX which got great reviews in regard to its ripple so I am really leaning away to it being a PSU issue. What is the process of RMA-ing the card?


Have you tried the card in a different PC that has a fairly powerful GPU/PSU that doesn't coil whine? That's a good way to check and see if it is your card.
 
If you can't check that, register your card if you haven't - https://www.evga.com/support/register.asp
 
Then call or email EVGA to start up a RMA - http://www.evga.com/about/contactus/ 

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/09 15:30:42 (permalink)
why does enabling vertical sync and locking the FPS make coil whine disappear?
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/09 15:40:26 (permalink)
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why does enabling vertical sync and locking the FPS make coil whine disappear?




Because it locks FPS to 60, allowing the GPU to not work as hard/draw more power. Coil whine is caused when the power components (primarily the VRMs) vibrate really fast. Lower load, less vibration, less/no coil whine. Here's Linus telling us all about it - http://lifehacker.com/this-video-explains-what-coil-whine-is-and-how-to-avoid-1669522880 
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/09 17:19:02 (permalink)
I have 2 1070 SC's and have no coil whine.
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/10 04:10:34 (permalink)
I bought a 1070 FTW last week to replace my 970 SSC, no noticeable coil whine but if the "silicon lottery" refers to cards that are able to boost to 2+GHz without overclocking by the user well I lost that one. Also being this late I lost the VRAM "lottery" too. Hopefully the BIOS update actually improves things significantly on that end.
 
Also the only time I ever heard coil whine on my 970 was in older games (or non-frame locked menus) where the frame rate would go into the hundreds if not thousands.
post edited by PHOENIXZERO - 2016/10/10 04:12:56
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/10 09:24:45 (permalink)
hey phoenixzero, I am thinking about upgrading my ssc+
to 1070ftw too , but waiting on that bios fix to see if it works.
 
It's a shame NVidia switched many of the 1070s from Samsung to
micron memory....  
 

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/10 17:05:25 (permalink)
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hey phoenixzero, I am thinking about upgrading my ssc+
to 1070ftw too , but waiting on that bios fix to see if it works.
 
It's a shame NVidia switched many of the 1070s from Samsung to
micron memory....  
 




Again with the Micron issue...   There is nothing wrong with Micron VRAM modules GDDR5 or GDDR5x.  They are 100% on par with Samsung's.  Samsung is not a flawless company making the best  electronics as many people seem to think (heard of their recent troubles with the Galaxy Note 7 anyone?).  As far as overclocking, it's a crap shoot, and not a guarantee.  This is why they call it the silicon lottery.  I have an EVGA FTW 1080 with Micron GDDR5x VRAM and it is awesome.  I still also have an ASUS Matrix GTX 980 Ti and it has 6GB of Samsung GDDR5.  Neither overclock very well.  They're about the same actually.

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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/18 06:56:35 (permalink)
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Have you tried the card in a different PC that has a fairly powerful GPU/PSU that doesn't coil whine? That's a good way to check and see if it is your card.
 
If you can't check that, register your card if you haven't - 
 
Then call or email EVGA to start up a RMA -  




I just tried it with the corsair sf600 to see if it made any difference and the coil whine is exactly the same. I am only drawing 250-260 watts with burn-in benchmarking anyways so that shouldn't have been an issue. I will start the RMA process. I hope the next one I get doesn't have this coil whine :(
 
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/18 07:11:40 (permalink)
Got an 1070 SC lately, seems to clock very well. Stock core boost at exact 2GHz, OCs to ~2150MHz - RAM +675MHz offset. But sadly it got quite excessive coil whine, even at low framerates. Sometimes noticable through my headphones. :/
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/18 10:30:09 (permalink)
No coil whine on my 1070 FTW.

 
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/18 11:17:01 (permalink)
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Got an 1070 SC lately, seems to clock very well. Stock core boost at exact 2GHz, OCs to ~2150MHz - RAM +675MHz offset. But sadly it got quite excessive coil whine, even at low framerates. Sometimes noticable through my headphones. :/


Send it back, I wouldn't accept any card coil whining out of the box. Unacceptable.When you RMA make sure you post a note in your RMA to make them test the card that they intend to replace it with, they will do this if you ask. I know they have to do it on an Advanced RMA, because its a 2nd time replacement, but all your trying to do is save them time and shipping. Doesn't hurt to send them a note asking them to test. I asked them to test a 2nd replacement 770 SC due to some issues I was having with stability at stock clocks, they did the testing and boom I got decent RMA replacements.
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/18 13:23:08 (permalink)
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Got an 1070 SC lately, seems to clock very well. Stock core boost at exact 2GHz, OCs to ~2150MHz - RAM +675MHz offset. But sadly it got quite excessive coil whine, even at low framerates. Sometimes noticable through my headphones. :/


Send it back, I wouldn't accept any card coil whining out of the box. Unacceptable.When you RMA make sure you post a note in your RMA to make them test the card that they intend to replace it with, they will do this if you ask. I know they have to do it on an Advanced RMA, because its a 2nd time replacement, but all your trying to do is save them time and shipping. Doesn't hurt to send them a note asking them to test. I asked them to test a 2nd replacement 770 SC due to some issues I was having with stability at stock clocks, they did the testing and boom I got decent RMA replacements.




Thanks for letting me know. I'm already in contact with the support. They asked me to do some hours of burn-in, so the coils will eventually be quiet enough. But I doubt that this will help. Had a 980 before for almost two years. The card also had (not such as loud) coil whine and the noise level never changed a bit, even after long periods of heavy load. 
 
But I will ask, if they can test the replacement that it has no coil whine. I'll see if it helps. :)
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/18 13:35:26 (permalink)
Now when I try to submit my RMA after being told to do so in a support ticket I get, "Your product is out of warranty. If you have any questions, please contact customer service. (E12)". This is such a drag. The ship date is 8/2016 so that makes no sense.
 
*edit* must have been the cookies, works in incognito mode. Go figure.
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Re: Is coil whine a serious issue with the ftw and sc cards? 2016/10/18 17:10:43 (permalink)
Yes I would RMA that card.  I have absolutely zero coil whine in my FTW 1080.  And I have stressed it plenty just to be certain.  I think my PSU helps too.
Coil whine in a card this expensive is a no brainer.  R.M.A.
 
Try using a different internet browser and the RMA will likely go through.
 

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