Hybridlve
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/12 17:58:57
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Ok so just about 55k PPD give or take to reach 20 mil points a year. Now how many on this team actually can and do consistently reach that or even what percentage? I am all for upping the ante and the reward and I''m for bigger rewards for more contribution, but not to the point of taking it out of reach of the average person who honestly gives it their best effort. I don't fold just for the money but it is a nice incentive and it does help. I'll admit I came her for many reasons and the EVGA bucks was one of them knowing I love to buy new stuff and every little bit helps, and I have recently passed the million mark and I continue to fold for this team at the same rate as before for all the other reasons I chose this team. Just me .02
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/12 21:25:26
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I think 100 EVGA bucks for 1 million points set the bar too low. I think they should have made the requirements like this: - 100 bucks --> 2 million points in one year - You need to have over 100 posts in the forum - You must have had 500k points in the previous year This would have avoided most of the people who jumped over just to get the 100 EVGA bucks. Now for users who just started if they managed to hit 2 million without having 500k in the previous year I would let that slide since that means they are enthusiastic and are obviously really part of the team since the bills to pay for that many points in one year can be fairly high. For the record I asked for the EVGA bucks but I was already up to something like 800k on the year by the time I found out about it. Many of these points came from my dual 4870x2 cards and those of you who have done the same know that ain't cheap hehe. Both of my parents have fought cancer twice each in recent years (one of them is right now) so you can probably guess what I really get out of this.
post edited by TheCrazyCanuck - 2010/01/12 21:27:04
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Hybridlve
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/12 21:40:45
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I would be rather cautious about setting a minimum number of posts. On my Jeep Club forum I have seen many many pointless posts and responses to things just so people could up their numbers and post just for the sake of posting, and the result being it takes twice as long to read everything and topics go off subject in a hurry which leads to large amounts of frustration and aggravation.
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/12 22:45:01
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Hybridlve
I would be rather cautious about setting a minimum number of posts. On my Jeep Club forum I have seen many many pointless posts and responses to things just so people could up their numbers and post just for the sake of posting, and the result being it takes twice as long to read everything and topics go off subject in a hurry which leads to large amounts of frustration and aggravation.
Thx,
Matthew
One fix for that, make useless posts against the rules :) Actually that would be a great rule outside of this issue since there are some people who add very little and we all end up having to sift through their drivel. I agree post count is a bad measure but when you google search the EVGA bucks for folding you are brought to a bunch of forums where you see users saying "I'm going to switch over to them for a million points and then come back".... that says a lot about some of the people who claim that they are on the team. Now that I think of it, the rule should have been that you have to wait a while to get the bucks and if you don't have a certain average PPD over the next couple of months "no soup for you". That would have filtered out quite a few freeloaders I think.
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/12 22:50:23
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This is the first, and only folding team I will ever be a part of. Just putting that out there. 
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Hybridlve
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/12 23:04:53
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Let me first say before anything else I don't agree with taking advantage of the generosity of the EVGA bucks for folding program and abusing it but, isn't the whole point that it doesn't matter who you fold for as long as you do? Why should it matter if someone wants to jump over and give our team a million points and help the team along to the ultimate goal of becoming number one. Every point counts and helps right. And it's basically store credit we are taking about here. If someone wants to move over and fold for EVGA it doesn't just help our team it does in turn help EVGA because that money has to be spent back here on more EVGA products.
And to the above +1 EVGA is the only team I have and will fold for also.
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/15 10:41:38
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Hybridlve
Let me first say before anything else I don't agree with taking advantage of the generosity of the EVGA bucks for folding program and abusing it but, isn't the whole point that it doesn't matter who you fold for as long as you do? Why should it matter if someone wants to jump over and give our team a million points and help the team along to the ultimate goal of becoming number one. Every point counts and helps right. And it's basically store credit we are taking about here. If someone wants to move over and fold for EVGA it doesn't just help our team it does in turn help EVGA because that money has to be spent back here on more EVGA products.
And to the above +1 EVGA is the only team I have and will fold for also.
Thx,
Matthew
I agree with your message so much I gave you a BR. We think that the promotion has been a resounding success. Some of the ideas we are bantering around are similar to the OP, but also giving rewards to those that stay with us long term. I think that's what we're focusing on now. Just hang tight - details will come out publicly soon.
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/15 10:51:59
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I pointed out in the other thread, but Iworry about the team being labeled a coporate team, and being removed from EOC. This has been brought up in the past by other teams, and I understand why. I think if the promotion is too easy to accomplish, or offers too much incentive (higher rewards), EOC would be justified in removing us from the rankings being we would be a "sponsored" team, and not a "community" team. On the other hand, if we don't care about the rankings, I am not going to complain about better incentives! 
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/15 11:47:46
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I hope EVGA renews this when the current promo ends. Maybe then I'll be able to accumulate enough for a Fermi card when they're released.
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/15 17:46:01
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mmillion
Well it is an interesting idea it helps all, but benefits the heavy hitters the most.
Barbarossa pointed out the guy with 20 million points doesn't need any equipment, they already have lots. Doesn't sound fair, give it to the little guy (admirable sentiment).
Well that may be true for Barbarossa, Lefty, wb, thaita, and some others. But our biggest hitters ever - strudinox, barnettworks, totes6, and clamtoas were folding on someone elses equipment. They were mostly young IT types with new familys a lot of expenses and not a lot of extra money for pc equipment. So nice hardware might have been a very, very big deal for them.
obtw FahMan might not be in need of hardware at home, but he does appear to be using the corporate equipment, so who knows.
I know I would be happy to donate my any of my windfall of evga bucks for contest prizes next year, if evga can arrange for our stuff to be sent to a contest or runner up and someone is willing to run the contests.
As always, very elegant mmillion. Very elegant indeed. +10
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/15 17:54:10
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AmbroseAthan
I pointed out in the other thread, but Iworry about the team being labeled a coporate team, and being removed from EOC.
This has been brought up in the past by other teams, and I understand why. I think if the promotion is too easy to accomplish, or offers too much incentive (higher rewards), EOC would be justified in removing us from the rankings being we would be a "sponsored" team, and not a "community" team.
On the other hand, if we don't care about the rankings, I am not going to complain about better incentives!
Not sure it really matters whether EOC removes us or not. It won't change the fact that TeamEVGA will still outrank all other teams in the end, right? - Plus, if you look at the stats on EOC now, our team really only has ~900 active folders, and yet, we are STILL putting out an average of 5 million PPD. I know a lot of those points come from power folders, but it's still indicative of the dedication of the remaining members who have well passed the 1 million mark, and those that continue to fold even knowing they won't reach the 1 million mark on the anniversary date. I'm not sure you could label such dedication the result of a "sponsored" team. Such dedication can only be attributed to the truly inspiring sense of community that lives on these boards. And that's my 2 cents worth.  Default or Death!
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/15 18:28:23
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Because most of our folders are GPU folders.
If you look at the makeup of MaxPC, or [H], most of their folders are in the sub 1000ppd range - the classic uniprocessor client.
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Re:Interesting Observation
2010/01/15 19:01:35
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Because most of our folders are GPU folders.
If you look at the makeup of MaxPC, or [H], most of their folders are in the sub 1000ppd range - the classic uniprocessor client.
True. We also have a lot of SMP clients. I also know that I've had to babysit my GPU clients through many, many EUEs due to confirmed bad work units for on the order of several months, and I know that others, including the power folders, have had to babysit their SMP / GPU clients. I may be speaking out of turn here, but I've not had near the same level of frustration or difficulty with the classic CPU client, and it really takes nothing for me to let that run on a work machine in the background. The SMP / GPU units also require a lot more hardware, and that is no small investment, especially for people that build dedicated folding rigs, of their own accord and for their own reasons. I support ANYONE that contributes to F@H, regardless of how they do it, but that doesn't change the fact that we have just as solid, just as dedicated community here at EVGA as the other teams have, and many of our members have invested and persisted well beyond any possible or foreseeable ROI, just like the other teams.
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