Intel's taking a page from AMD and trying to squeeze out more CPU performance in its new Xeon E5-2699A v4 chip. Link
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/15 19:58:13
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I would love a 4P with those CPUs 88 cores 176 threads. I would rack up some badges BOINC WCG
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/15 20:25:56
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So, what's next? Are they going to release a 30 core processor, just keep on stacking more cores on top of each other? Meanwhile, mankind hasn't even able to develop programs that can use a quad core "efficiently" enough, for the consumer level. Arguable, but it's true. It's almost becoming a joke the way they're releasing these CPUs. Why can't they have a core able to do 4 jobs at once, or 8 jobs at "ludicrous" speed? They have "hyper-threading", but why can't they have it where each core does "more than hyper-threading"? Seriously... WTH. Again, lets' just stack more cores on top and make the consumers think they got something big...
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/15 20:37:12
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bill1024 I would love a 4P with those CPUs 88 cores 176 threads. I would rack up some badges BOINC WCG
Maybe a 2P for me and I will have your back over on WCG. I would say year after next because I did just get that T630 with two Intel Xeon E5-2680 v4 2.4GHz,35M Cache,9.60GT/s QPI,Turbo,HT,14C/28T  And this "The question remains if Intel can ever match AMD’s claim of a 40 percent improvement gain with Zen." Will Never Happen.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/15 23:16:29
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stalinx20 So, what's next? Are they going to release a 30 core processor, just keep on stacking more cores on top of each other? Meanwhile, mankind hasn't even able to develop programs that can use a quad core "efficiently" enough, for the consumer level. Arguable, but it's true. It's almost becoming a joke the way they're releasing these CPUs. Why can't they have a core able to do 4 jobs at once, or 8 jobs at "ludicrous" speed? They have "hyper-threading", but why can't they have it where each core does "more than hyper-threading"? Seriously... WTH. Again, lets' just stack more cores on top and make the consumers think they got something big...
Wondering if (or when) someone will develop something that will take any active running application and divvy out the work to multiple cores... kind of a 'middle man' directing traffic between the application and the CPU so it runs more efficiently and utilizes all available resources, taking away the necessity of relying on the application author(s) to optimize their work for multi core environments.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 00:57:23
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This is the direction we're headed by just stacking more cores on top. Yay for us.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 15:11:18
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stalinx20 So, what's next? Are they going to release a 30 core processor, just keep on stacking more cores on top of each other? Meanwhile, mankind hasn't even able to develop programs that can use a quad core "efficiently" enough, for the consumer level. Arguable, but it's true. It's almost becoming a joke the way they're releasing these CPUs. Why can't they have a core able to do 4 jobs at once, or 8 jobs at "ludicrous" speed? They have "hyper-threading", but why can't they have it where each core does "more than hyper-threading"? Seriously... WTH. Again, lets' just stack more cores on top and make the consumers think they got something big...
Wondering if (or when) someone will develop something that will take any active running application and divvy out the work to multiple cores... kind of a 'middle man' directing traffic between the application and the CPU so it runs more efficiently and utilizes all available resources, taking away the necessity of relying on the application author(s) to optimize their work for multi core environments.
I agree it's a bit ridiculous how they have these super processors yet hardly any software is designed to even use the modern 4/8 C/T... I also can't stand how Intel keeps putting out processors with only 10% Improvements over the equal previous gen model. It seems like such a waste of resources and like was mentioned we will probably never see another claim of 40% gain over previous gen like AMD is stating. When we get down to the atomic level of processing (already there) some kind of new technology with a whole different deisgn will have to be created. Then just think how much crap it will be for everything to be transfered over to work on the new "Plasma Chips" or w/e the hell will be next. It looks like we are either heading for a new revolution of computing or a long drawn out stale mate where nothing new will be made untill a new form of technology becomes the norm.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 15:20:58
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Nice New Server Processors, my MS SQL Server would love to have one or two of these new Super Processors.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 19:00:39
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bcavnaugh These super processors are not for Desktop Computers or Desktop Users. These super processors for Server Class Computers and Server Class Users. They are Server Processors. What you are saying has Zero Bearing for what this Super Processor as you call them are even going to be used for. They are not for you to spend Well over $5000 Per CPU for you to play games on your $400.00 Motherboard. MS SQL Server would love to have one or two of these new super processors.
So, what you're saying is that the article was aimed at "corporations" that actually need a server or computer that has 22-cores on it? Got it. We can all move on then; EVGA is pretty much aimed for consumer level, not corporations.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 19:15:23
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The EVGA Forum Community is a great place to be.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 19:52:25
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The hardware is much easier to reverse engineer.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 19:56:12
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awalleyeguy The hardware is much easier to reverse engineer.
If you mean "much easier than humans" then yes you are correct.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/16 21:56:35
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bcavnaugh The EVGA Forum Community is not only all about Gaming. This is the "Computer Industry News" Section after all.
 Thanks for clarifying that. Let us know if you know anybody here that is looking for "ludicrous speed" processors that feature 22-cores that is meant to handle thousands of jobs at once, and we'll spread on the word. Meanwhile, I will look for information on processors that are suitable for consumers. Hopefully it doesn't have to do with advertisements that are debuting new released items.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 03:58:50
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5000 dollars is a lot to pay for a processor but with 22 cores I suppose that is what one would expect.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 08:46:05
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Stalinx, I really don't understand why you choose to have that mentality. It's for commercial application, there are several fields that can use this. Just like there are several commercial uses for that NVIDIA DGX SaturnV you posted in the Industry News forum. There are uses for this type of hardware regardless whether you "believe" it or not.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 09:00:45
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stalinx20 So, what's next? Are they going to release a 30 core processor, just keep on stacking more cores on top of each other? Meanwhile, mankind hasn't even able to develop programs that can use a quad core "efficiently" enough, for the consumer level. Arguable, but it's true. It's almost becoming a joke the way they're releasing these CPUs. Why can't they have a core able to do 4 jobs at once, or 8 jobs at "ludicrous" speed? They have "hyper-threading", but why can't they have it where each core does "more than hyper-threading"? Seriously... WTH. Again, lets' just stack more cores on top and make the consumers think they got something big...
cough...cough there is linux Not our fault windows doesn't get it (or wants to for that matter) Microsoft has always wanted businesses to pay per core for there OS - that changed when Multi core chips came - but the same reasoning is STILL AT M$ any more and they want you to pay more they have hated multi chip server boards 2 socket and 4 socket for that reason do you realize that windows Home or windows plain jane OS is NOT THEIR PROFESSIONAL software (meant for BUSINESS - but some of them are consumer users) i have WIN 10 PRO - and the rumor mill is Windows has plans to go to licensing for that down the road - so they want to stick it to Businesses the dif between plain jane and PRO - is MEMORY management(can address more ram) and multiple CHIPS(up to 2 or 4) any more they want you on windows server software -and you pay per chip
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 09:09:56
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bcavnaugh The EVGA Forum Community is not only all about Gaming. This is the "Computer Industry News" Section after all.
 Thanks for clarifying that. Let us know if you know anybody here that is looking for "ludicrous speed" processors that feature 22-cores that is meant to handle thousands of jobs at once, and we'll spread on the word. Meanwhile, I will look for information on processors that are suitable for consumers. Hopefully it doesn't have to do with advertisements that are debuting new released items.
Here I am, spread the word!!! I have 300 cores in my house. Put 500 cores on a chip, make it run at 2.4ghz or over and do it for 1000$ I will buy 6 of them right now. 3000 cores OH my. I could put 10,000 cores to work 100% load 24/7
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 12:09:34
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XrayMan Thanks for the news on the new Intel Zeon CPU.
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2016/11/17 12:31:58
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bcavnaugh, it's ok to shed light on the types of businesses who would use this type of hardware if someone doesn't understand how it fits. Several threads in the Computer Industry News forum don't apply to regular consumers - that's not the point. The point is to introduce Computer Industry News and that's exactly what Xray and others have done in this forum (regardless of the type of user it's for). ############# Personally, I think it will be interesting to see how far Intel can push it.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 13:25:57
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They would make a great CPU for BOINC Projects but at an above a normal cost.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 13:27:12
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Some people do not understand what we do with BOINC, Folding and other data crunching. I do not have a business, but I could put as many cores to work that they give me, leave me wanting more.
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2016/11/17 13:31:47
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bill1024 Some people do not understand what we do with BOINC, Folding and other data crunching. I do not have a business, but I could put as many cores to work that they give me, leave me wanting more.
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 20:21:36
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NazcaC2 bcavnaugh, it's ok to shed light on the types of businesses who would use this type of hardware if someone doesn't understand how it fits. Several threads in the Computer Industry News forum don't apply to regular consumers - that's not the point. The point is to introduce Computer Industry News and that's exactly what Xray and others have done in this forum (regardless of the type of user it's for). ############# Personally, I think it will be interesting to see how far Intel can push it.
What! I sorry but why are you telling me this. Should you not be telling stalinx20 this and not me.
Of course Computer Industry News is for all news related to computers. I think the fact I pointed out that this processor was aimed for enterprise/server level made you assume that I was claiming that everybody on evga forums "is a consumer". I never said that. I did quote that "EVGA is aimed pretty much for consumer level customers"; they are. Does that make me claim that "everybody is a consumer based customer"? No. You're claiming that to be my point. Did I complain that Intel continues to stack more cores on top, claiming they have a "better" Processor than the one before? You bet I did. My only point is that they are not focusing on individual cores and what they're capable of doing. They are not improving the core structure, and the amount of workload each core is capable of doing before it tanks, and if they can actually make the cores in their inner self "do more". That is what I was grasping, I'm not really sure what you were going on about how the computer industry news isn't just meant for gamers. You made that claim.
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2016/11/17 20:38:37
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Re: Intel jams more horsepower in its monster 22-core processor
2016/11/17 20:51:32
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bcavnaugh stalinx20, Please Leave It Alone and Please stop attacking me.
Wasn't ever attacking you, simply clarifying to remove any confusion. See, that's the thing with people who build computers, they all take things waaaay too seriously. Go live a little bcavnaugh, and have a good day.
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2016/11/17 20:56:50
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@Stalinx20, Please leave it alone, and move on now. No more of this back, and forth. Thanks. @BCavnaugh, You too. Thanks.
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2016/11/17 22:28:44
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MY TURN! ..just kidding ;)
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