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Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs

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2016/07/19 17:37:13 (permalink)
Intel is planning to launch their first 6 core mainstream processors in 2018 with a new family of CPUs known as Coffee Lake. Based on the 14nm node, Coffee Lake will be the first mainstream processor family which will see a bump in the total number of cores since their first Core 2 Extreme era processors. While Intel’s HEDT lineup has seen a significant increase in cores, it’s finally time that Intel has decided to bump up the number on their main stream family.

 
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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/19 17:46:46 (permalink)
    This is great news. Before 2-3 years i7-3770K and i7-4790K were better options than i7-3820 and i7-4820K.
    I would not go on 4 cores i7 any more. But mainstream processor with 6 core will have higher frequency than 3.8GHz and probably Turbo  4.0-4.2GHz, maybe even more.
    That would be nice processor, special for Mini ITX boards. Than price of 8 cores will drop for 200-250$ probably.
     

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/19 18:51:12 (permalink)
    Most games don't even need more than 4 cores, that's only 1 category though. If anyone still has one (like me) I would consider to wait it out and see what these processors bring if they want to get a 6 core, but right now it's not necessary at all.  

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/19 20:10:45 (permalink)
    I like the name :)

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/20 20:55:59 (permalink)
    It's mobile, not desktop, look at the TDP; putting a 6-core in the 35-45W TDP category.  A 6-core in the LGA115x socket may occur earlier than waiting until 2018, but there isn't enough information available for it. 

    If anything the 6-core will be the flagship of mobile, at the usual $999 MSRP and to maintain exclusivity, the rest of the line-up will be quads and duals.

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/21 17:02:21 (permalink)
    Let's not forget that the VP of intel said that CPUs will get a bit slower, but way more power efficient. I estimated from when the statement was given it would occur as early as ice lake, but maybe coffee lake since this is the first I've heard of it. Can't wait for cappuccino lake.

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/23 14:56:46 (permalink)
    Nobody wants "slower". We're coming to that brick wall to where if you want more speed, then you will have to have more power being used. If you want to have less power being used, then you will sacrifice speed. Dead end, everybody. This is what Moore was actually referring to (sarcasm intended).

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/23 18:31:35 (permalink)
    Just imaged a lake made from coffee.


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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/24 05:45:42 (permalink)
    If this is true I will maybe back in mainstream... Memory speed will stay great probably and from that moment they will become better option than i7-5820K/i7-5930K etc for single GPU. Higher stock/turbo frequency, fast DDR4, small power consumption for small cases with up to 500-600W PSU, even name "Coffee Lake" is great. Popularity of small RIGs will be bigger.
     

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/24 10:49:21 (permalink)
    I guess I really don't understand the NEED for more cores in a "mainstream" PC...  Right now and for the foreseeable future they really do no good.  All this will do is lets people stroke their cyber ego at a lower price point lol.  I see this turning into a cores war similar to the old GHz war - because the average mainstream PC user doesn't know that 4 higher clocked cores would trump a lower clocked 6 core system most of the time.  Not only that but you have the sales folks at worst buy and the other stores feeding incorrect info often just to sell something so add that to it.  
     
    To me this is akin to so many people I have tried to recommend a PC or laptop to with a SSD and they get talked into one with a platter drive by a salesman or themselves.  Oh you only recommended me the 256GB one and I got the one that has 1TB for less money!  Why wouldn't I want more for less??!?  Also looking at it's reminiscent of the newer Android phones with the "octacore"+ processors and the OMG I NEED MOAR COREZ.  But looking at NON BENCHMARK numbers my old Nex6 with quad cores at much higher clock speed still keeps up in side by side speed tests.
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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/24 18:58:41 (permalink)
    I'm still using a 4820K, and most of every game is well in the 120fps range.

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/25 06:12:32 (permalink)
    I think if Intel launch CPU with 6 core in mainstream they become more popular than 6 core extreme for people with single graphic card.
    Special now with Gen3 Chipset. But I think 8 core will replace 6 cores in Extreme class. 8 cores is really not necessary for gaming.
    But 6 cores will work better for 2 years than 4 core and no one buy processor for 12 months only.
    Very small number of people will buy slower CPU with 40 PCI-E lanes, or 48 if rumors are true with same number of cores as Coffee Lake with 500MHz higher frequency. Example i7-3770K was much better to me than i7-3820 with 40 PCI-E lanes. 
    Xtreme Processors become excellent on 4GHz+ and overclocked Cache Frequency. 
    I would like to replace i7-5820K with i7-6800K but that's not my priority and I need money for graphic card,
    but i7-6800K is little better single threaded performance and X99 platform become even
    better with him and negative side of X99 platform compare to Z170 are much lower with Broadwell-EX.
    i7-6850K 40 PCI-E lanes is more expensive. not worth for single GPU and everything could work nice even with 28, even two GPU.
    I searched him if show up for some cheaper price as I bought i7-5820K but nothing for now and I need all money for GTX1080.
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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/28 19:36:28 (permalink)
    I'm going to wait for this processor. Right now 4 cores are perfect, most games won't even use more than 4 cores. in a few years companies "should" (yeah, it's a big word) have things more under control and be able to assign the coding better to be able to use 6 cores. We'll see how things go in 2018.

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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/28 20:28:56 (permalink)
    Hmm so Kaby Lake in late '16-early '17, Coffee Lake late '17-early '18...
     
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    Re: Intel Planning To Bring 14nm Coffee Lake 6 Core Chips in 2018 on Mainstream PCs 2016/07/28 20:29:34 (permalink)
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    I guess I really don't understand the NEED for more cores in a "mainstream" PC...

    1. First you have to expand your idea of mainstream, it is a very wide segment and the upper end of that segment are where the unlocked i5/i7 models are in Z-chipsets.  For some reason, despite the presence of the IGP, those unlocked mainstream parts outsell the unlocked parts in HEDT.  Of course, so far, to maintain the appeal of HEDT, there are no 6-core models in mainstream.  Luckily, so far, AMD has no competitor to any Intel model above 4c-8t.
    2. This isn't about need; the only reason it is done is because competition is providing an option, it is the only reason a company will change strategy.  

    The point for any profit-oriented organization is to make money, and they make the most money when there is no competition, because then they don't have to research or invest so much in new stuff that has no purpose. Impressing elite customers isn't the point; to hell with enthusiasts and their complaints that Intel is overpriced or not giving us reasons to upgrade.  They don't exist for that.

    Intel had quad-cores in mainstream at the flagship level for almost ten years (Core 2 Quad Q6600 debuted December 2006 for the B3 stepping), they didn't need to change that trend until a threat came along:  AMD's Zen is bringing up to 8-core-16-thread processors to the mainstream desktop range, and since Coffee Lake is a mobile processor at the 45W mark with the flagship getting a 6-core w/IGP (because no mobile processors exist without an IGP), one has to wonder what plans AMD has at the 35-45W level that can somehow pose a threat to to a regular mobile quad-core...

    Again, this isn't about need, per se; granted there is always someone that will pay for it and have use; the best is hardly for those that don't use it.

    For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  

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