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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/04 09:14:44
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do we expect different, Sandy Bridge to Skylake is what at most 40% gain over 5 years?
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/05 00:36:55
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People need to move on from the i5 to the i7 anyway.
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/05 00:43:12
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AMD need to bring some competition..
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/05 00:53:50
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AMD need to bring some competition..
It's very difficult when competing against Nvidia. =)
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/05 09:01:42
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AMD need to bring some competition... What for?  If like many you'd want AMD to give Intel reason to do something different, then what's in it for AMD to bother? AMD's goal is to take market share from Intel, meaning, some of us have to go to AMD in order for Intel to fight to get those customers back. But if you just want others to take one for the team just so you can have a better Intel upgrade, that will be a few years. If we go back to the days where AMD's Athlon 64 was a force to be reckoned with, AMD had around 30% marketshare, literally double what they are now. Enthusiasts jumped up and down for the gaming capabilities, but in the real world like office apps, Pentium 4 was still the king. But the biggest threat to Intel back then was AMD's integrated memory controller, which was a hit with server and workstation customers. In other words, for AMD to be a threat to Intel to change strategy and amp up the IPC, they have to take those OEM contracts that bring in the billions every year. DIY market is a joke in comparison.
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/05 09:38:21
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But the biggest threat to Intel back then was AMD's integrated memory controller, which was a hit with server and workstation customers. In other words, for AMD to be a threat to Intel to change strategy and amp up the IPC, they have to take those OEM contracts that bring in the billions every year. DIY market is a joke in comparison. It could be interpreted a bit differently. When you chase after a competitor that sets the rules of the game you'll always lose. You have to do something different that people want and be limber enough to keep on doing that. AMD is failing because of the status quo. What differentiates AMD from Intel? Not much where it counts and that's the real problem they have. It's not about doing the same things faster, it's about doing disruptive things technologically that the other isn't doing at all (yet). That is pretty much the only thing that will get AMD healthy. They're already doing that in part with their domination of the console market.
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/05 17:24:28
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They're already doing that in part with their domination of the console market.
Except they lost nintendo and there were rumors all over the place for ps4 and next gen xbox. Plus those contracts are not huge financial gains its more like life support. AMD probably gets more money of ASUS sells a AMD gpu then if Sony sells a PS3 with both cpu and gpu. Console market money is in the game contracts and not with the console itself.
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/05 17:30:22
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But hey... The process of shrinking the CPU/SOC doesn't seem to be slowing down... 
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/06 01:03:19
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But hey... The process of shrinking the CPU/SOC doesn't seem to be slowing down...
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/06 06:46:59
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They're already doing that in part with their domination of the console market.
Except they lost nintendo and there were rumors all over the place for ps4 and next gen xbox. Plus those contracts are not huge financial gains its more like life support. AMD probably gets more money of ASUS sells a AMD gpu then if Sony sells a PS3 with both cpu and gpu. Console market money is in the game contracts and not with the console itself.
Nintendo isn't that meaningful of a player in the hardware market anymore. They're hard to take seriously. Yes, but Sony and Microsoft take the bath in the hardware $$$, not the OEM.
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/06 08:25:43
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Rocking my i5 3570k and my cpu usage in game spikes up to 100% . I think it'll be a worthwhile upgrade to one of these new cpu's. Probably 7700k 
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/06 08:45:52
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AMD need to bring some competition..
It's very difficult when competing against Nvidia. =)
Yeah, Nvidia is on fire right now...
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/06 09:36:46
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AMD need to bring some competition..
It's very difficult when competing against Nvidia. =)
Yeah, Nvidia is on fire right now...
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/06 21:04:51
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People need to move on from the i5 to the i7 anyway.
Never gonna happen. Many hard headed i5 users that refuse to believe an i7 is needed now a days to fully push 1070/1080/Titan X at max potential. Cant wait to read the crying when the next cards hit and people build around an i5. Only to wonder why their cpus are maxing out @100% and cards not being pushed to full potential. Cannonlake is my next big cpu upgrade. It will certainly be an i7 as well. 4790k still killing it in the mean time.
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Re: Intel Core i5-7600K Tested, Negligible IPC Gains
2016/11/06 21:59:12
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People need to move on from the i5 to the i7 anyway.
Never gonna happen. Many hard headed i5 users that refuse to believe an i7 is needed now a days to fully push 1070/1080/Titan X at max potential. Cant wait to read the crying when the next cards hit and people build around an i5. Only to wonder why their cpus are maxing out @100% and cards not being pushed to full potential. Cannonlake is my next big cpu upgrade. It will certainly be an i7 as well. 4790k still killing it in the mean time.
Good points made there. They will be held back by their CPU, unless they get wise, and upgrade.
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