Thank you for the excellent info. you have provided here, ICD!!

Does a pea sized drop not move when spread?
 
I'm glad to know these reports are all flukes. Thanks for clearing stuff up.

I'm going to try that the next time I change my TIM. Get all the old material cleaned off and then buff it up with a Mr. Clean. What could it hurt??

Here we go....again....

since we are going off the tracks and topic,This one time at band camp....

zurginator

You STILL have yet to produce any facts other than 'it happened like that on my rig', which is the same facts I used. ;)

You also have STILL yet to answer the question. You parade around it.

 
I'm in the process of rebuilding my rig and had my Mega Shadows in North/South position as I have Corsair Dom GT's. But I was able to remount it in East/West with the doms + air kit. I had to redo the tim (IC Diamond) twice because of this and my i7 920 hasn't been scratched at all. I think it was your process of removing the tim improperly causing your cpu to scratch. This stuff is thicker (and better) than most tims and you have to remove it properly and with care.

this stuff brought the stock 480 heatsink to a nice copper color after i reaplied the tim to see if i could lower my temps.  so yes, handle with care

@ Diamond
Love your product, but it appears you have been arguing with a wall when it comes to some people.
Your examples are good enough for me, and I'm sure the company has tested this more times than any of us here combined.
So I my self am not worried, not when I know my heatsink can do more damage to my CPU than the TIM itself.
I have some dents in my CPU, like the one pictured above. I highly doubt that come from my TIM. Only ever used OCZ Freeze and IC Diamond. Pretty sure that is me and the mounting and remounting of my Heatsink.

Falcon,we are allway's going to have idiot know-it all's in this forum.I use IC Diamond and love it.The scratching, if any, come's from removel of the block and or application and re-movel of the paste.I have teenager's who act like they know it all and my advise to them is to shut up,listen to your elder's and gain wisdom with time.This paste work's as it is advertised and I for one am very pleased!

fredbsd

This was certainly entertaining.  Pretty much had everything.

IC, I'd suggest you learn how to polish your presentation skills if you indeed are representing that product in a public forum.  While you have some good insight, it is lost in the presentation (except the first post).

Just a thought.  Sorry to be so blunt.

 
lol, I was trying to avoid a great presentation,. Some things are easy, like the paste flow question it can be demonstrated with a 5 sec video by mixing a visual marker into the compound.
 
Demonstrating micro finish effects while simple is more complex as the effect would have to quantified. I would have to take synthetic copper IHS's and match Intel finish spec, Reduce the compounds to it's bondline with pressure between a couple of glass slides using a micrometer to verify. Then rotate (and possibly linear) set travel distances at different points maybe 1/4 inch to 10 inches under a measured  pressure to simulate wear, observe(pictures) and measure the mechanical abrasion effects with a micro scope, detail the results and enter into a discussion material properties of hardness, size and how they interact. Hard for me to justify the day's effort on what's an already well documented and commonly understood  industrial practice vs an easily simply observable effect.
 
Or
 
If someone is curious enough, take an oxidized plate of copper with a sample group of competitive compounds AS5, MX2, Shin Etsu etc. and rub (polish) the each with a cloth for 20 SEC all will have comparable results to diamond with the exception of the softer zinc oxide compounds.
 
To be a lapping or polishing compound it just requires being harder than the material to be lapped. Copper with an mohs hardness of 3-4 vs most other thermal compound fillers with MOHS  hardness of 8-9 (Diamond being 10.) Thermal compounds are by definition lapping compounds, so apply some pressure move it around a bit and you are in business.
 
The other component is time/distance spent moving under pressure 20 seconds, 5min you will not see much wear difference between compounds at these grit sizes, 5 hours work with diamond you will see differences. Dremel tool @ 30,000 rpm with a buffing head and you are more of a cutting wheel, just a matter of how you scale it.
 
 
 
 
 

the pea drop may have been mentioned but google  AS in the Hey Day time frame of 2002-2007 "Arctic Silver pea drop" and it comes up 689 times in 5 years hardly mainstream
 
Now google "IC diamond pea drop" 2007-2010 and you get 11,000 hits
 
I think we have done a lot to popularize the method in a short time frame of 2.5 years.
 
Method of application was developed and validated by endusers in the forums as the best application method so they get the inspirational credit. May have been known before hand but users like Falcon have made it mainstream
 
Have a load of giveaways across the pond and in SA in process or about to start and have initial results on our new low cost Perihelion ceramic compound only a degree or two less than ICD, MSRP in the $5.00 range but has the same volume of paste that you would get in a 4.8 gm tube of ICD4.
 
I am going to send some Perihelion to Falcon to test and if he thinks it's worthy enough for you guys I will have boatloads available for him to hand out. I need feedback and evaluation and this group seems critical enough to do the job.
 
Check out the Perihelion results in the link below about 3/4 the way through the test survey could be a good alternative for those that have issues with diamond... This is ceramic based or aluminum oxide same as what you would find in AS Ceramique so you can do 1-1 comparison micro finish wear and tear
 
http://www.pc-cooling.de/...ds/ic_survey_21.11.gif

OK got the last one 
 

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