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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 12:27:43 (permalink)
yeah.. and she wonders why she see's the bios blue.screen all the time!!
mayne. its thought if i raise my vtt to anything pass +100 i either error the first few passes or bsod....
i really hope its not my ram being dead *knocks on wood


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 12:33:58 (permalink)
Would you rather it be a dead stick of RAM or a bum CPU that won't go to 4.2? 

   
                         
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 12:41:40 (permalink)
a bumm chip..or wait is this a trick question


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 14:10:38 (permalink)
Update..
I've made it almost to 20 passes linx.. however... what ever happened to windows gadgets.. happened to the linx program itself.
I think it was at the 17th pass..
Again..my highest temp with that was around 83~84, I don't know what it was but it was in the ball park in this figures.
 


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 14:28:58 (permalink)
It "disappeared"?
 
Also, don't you turn off all unnecessary services when doing a Linx run?
 
I would disable the gadgets for sure.  However, having them disappear is puzzling indeed.

   
                         
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 14:34:30 (permalink)
It doesn't disappear persay.. it brings up a warning.. "wait for program to respond" kind of warning or what ever.
It disappears after I close the warning window, happens to linx the same way towards the ending part of it, again I don't know the exact time this happens..
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I turn off everything, what ever runs in the background when windows fully boots up...


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 14:51:03 (permalink)
Hmmm...
 
I got a "Linx program has stopped working.." or something like that once.  I hit "OK" and restarted Linx and it happened again.  I had to restart the PC then it was fine.

   
                         
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 15:01:20 (permalink)
I had the same thing happen while i was trying to hit 4.2ghz added more QPI and bam ran to 20 passes without fail. Refering to the "linx has stopped responding".  V1ral try adding one notch more of QPI PLL i ended up at 1.325.

 

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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 15:23:46 (permalink)
Update again.
I upped my vtt to +200 went for 5 passes of linx.. and it passed I upped qpi as well.. to 1.3 I think it was hold up yeah it's 1.3.. Should I lower vtt..? and see what will be okay before I go for the 20 pass linx..
*This is all atm.. with 197 base clock.. not 201.. just to clear things up.. Temps are at 84.. also..
I set my ram back to 8-8-8-21-88-1T passed.. looking good for 197 base clock!!:)


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 15:37:19 (permalink)
Sorry, I didnt want to read through everything to find it... what VCore are you running now?

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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 15:43:12 (permalink)
Personally, I would not move so many settings around at once.  It makes it difficult to figure out what went wrong (or right for that matter): is it the ram timings, VTT, QPI, bclock?
 
Also, personally, I would go for the 20 passes.  If it gets there, then you can start fine tuning, ONE setting at a time, and know when something goes wrong, that it was that ONE setting that you just changed and you can change it back and try something else.  If you make it to 5 and quit and change something, you might just pass up a setting that was good.
 
That's just me.
 
But, hey, your temps are decent and your moving forward.  That's cool!

   
                         
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 16:58:30 (permalink)
let it run til it crashes don't stop it after 5. like techno said change one setting at a time.  its time consuming but it works. took me 3 days of tweaking to get my OC stable. +200 VTT is fine QPI is fine.  run it til it produces an error or crashes.  if it passes all 20 then start working the blck up i guess.

 

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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 18:05:42 (permalink)
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let it run til it crashes don't stop it after 5. like techno said change one setting at a time.  its time consuming but it works. took me 3 days of tweaking to get my OC stable. +200 VTT is fine QPI is fine.  run it til it produces an error or crashes.  if it passes all 20 then start working the blck up i guess.


FAH?!  3 days?  Oh, you're good!
 
Took me like 3 weeks. 

   
                         
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 18:09:52 (permalink)
Lol sorry techno i was bound and determined to hit 4.2ghz.  Now i want moar i want to run my RAM at 2:10 but unfortunately i think i would need better cooling this H70 doesnt cut it at higher voltages.  By the way techno who modified your Stability club sig?  i need mine converted to blue.

 

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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 22:46:57 (permalink)
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Lol sorry techno i was bound and determined to hit 4.2ghz.  Now i want moar i want to run my RAM at 2:10 but unfortunately i think i would need better cooling this H70 doesnt cut it at higher voltages.  By the way techno who modified your Stability club sig?  i need mine converted to blue.


I did my own badge.  I "dabble" in Photoshop.

   
                         
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/05 23:19:05 (permalink)
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It doesn't disappear persay.. it brings up a warning.. "wait for program to respond" kind of warning or what ever.
It disappears after I close the warning window, happens to linx the same way towards the ending part of it, again I don't know the exact time this happens..
Edit.
I turn off everything, what ever runs in the background when windows fully boots up...

 
I see you're still not having any fun, that's too bad...I don't know what it is you are trying now, and I've read everything since page No.7, so why don't you post a full template again so we can see what exactly IS going on with the "base clock of 197" or whatever it is you are concentrating so hard on, for some reason. 
 
I have no idea why you just don't put up 201 and go for it! Go back to the settings I posted  for you and try them, with slightly increased VCore of course, as it seems your H20 block keeps things very toasty for H20 cooling. Heck my Megahalems keeps my CPU's cooler than you do with H20, whatever configuration you are using happens to be, and I know *Nothing* about H20 other than it's wet, and my equipment doesn't like H20, long and short version! So I don't use it for the mild overclocks I am doing with my CPU's. 
 
At higher clocks you need to use H20 this is certain, like for me that means higher than 4.5Ghz or so, for any extended testing or use, such as Vantage runs, or 3DMark11 or 06 runs, not LinX runs. I can run my CPU's at up to 4.7Ghz for short periods and they are perfectly stable, it's simply temps get too warm on AIR Only, even for my jaded outlook on temps. I look at temps like this: if the temps are less than 90-degrees the run is a go (LinX), but I'll watch it like a hawk near those temps. Look at my qualification runs for my 970 and you'll see it was close to 90-degrees consistently in one Core, the others lower, but still that is HOT HOT HOT! Thus I "watched it closely" but completed the run, no harm, no foul @ 4.273Mhz, and I took it, logged it, and used it for the Stability Club run for that CPU.  
 
So I'm not afraid of higher temps than you are using, and are afraid of apparently. Don't be! If the CPU gets up to above 95 degrees C it will throttle down and cool the Cores off that are higher than that temp, it's automatic and there's no  harm done either. I've taken all my 920's to the wall and back, up to 95-degrees at some point, and they are perfectly healthy right now, some 2 years later. Have some courage and don't be so afraid of temps in the high 80's to low 90's, and I mean FEAR NOT young man, don't be so timid about these temps unless you are certain about getting a new H20 block, and very, very soon on that account!  
 
Anyway, it's a shame to see you still struggling @ 197 BCLK at this point, after all the "advice" people are giving you, so much advice, advice, and more advice! Are you getting confused or what? I would be, Hah Hah! I'd really pick a strategy, stick with it and improve it, and quit dancing with the stars here by trying everybody's suggestions out so readily. Nothing is working beyond 197 BLCK at this point, even @ 197 BCLK it seems, so I dunno what you are accomplishing other than treading H20! Like a swimmer trying to learn how to have a full racing stroke and is stuck paddling H20! THAT is what this seems like for me, I mean you should have made progress by now, not stuck at the same silly 197 BCLK! 
 
You have a great CPU, so quit doubting it!  For Christ sake! The Batch#3849B203 CPU's are almost golden, so don't fault the CPU, fault what you are doing for cooling and settings, that is what is wrong! I wish I was there to plug in some numbers in BIOS for you and make this happen, once and for all, that is so frustrating to be stuck at a low BCLK isn't it? I've personally never been there so I don't know how it feels, but being there now you must know that feeling, yah? As for BIOS, update it NOW, and get it over with and start fresh again...just jump right up there to 201 and work with it, that's my cogent advice. 
 
If you look back at the settings I posted for you, it included 1.3 QPI PLL VCore along with IOH being there too, that is at 1.3V for starters, and work with it from there. That will help stabilize your RAM and CPU both, especially the RAM, if it's giving you fits, and it should not be! Just raise the VDIMM to 1.67 and leave VTT down LOW at no more than 125+Mv, and you should be at +100Mv VTT if possible, and it is IS possible to do. That will lower temps and give stability both.  
 
Look, sometimes it's TOO MUCH of a setting that is harming our efforts, and VTT is a big culprit in that regard for serious overclockers. People throw about "+200 VTT" or higher, and that is just crazy! Nobody needs that much VTT in their wildest dreams, so don't get caught in that thinking either! Do something good for yourself: update the BIOS to 77, and just start fresh all over again! 
 
Good luck, and I hope this has helped you somehow, because I'm trying to help you the only way I can right now, and that is to beg off on any more advice for now, just take the best of the lot of things that people have volunteered for your benefit and use it, the rest DISREGARD! That would be most of what has been posted here of late, too...sorry to say. I know that CPU you have and it's a good Batch, trust me it is a great CPU. Look in the overclocking ladder and see the others in there at nice, high, stable overclocks with the B203 batch in the house! They are good CPU's!! End of discussion...
 
Have some fun if possible, loosen up, and just make some wholesale changes, do the BIOS update, and go for it! 
 
Later..... and I do wish you Good Luck! 
 
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 06:30:32 (permalink)
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It doesn't disappear persay.. it brings up a warning.. "wait for program to respond" kind of warning or what ever.
It disappears after I close the warning window, happens to linx the same way towards the ending part of it, again I don't know the exact time this happens..
Edit.
I turn off everything, what ever runs in the background when windows fully boots up...


I see you're still not having any fun, that's too bad...I don't know what it is you are trying now, and I've read everything since page No.7, so why don't you post a full template again so we can see what exactly IS going on with the "base clock of 197" or whatever it is you are concentrating so hard on, for some reason. 

I have no idea why you just don't put up 201 and go for it! Go back to the settings I posted  for you and try them, with slightly increased VCore of course, as it seems your H20 block keeps things very toasty for H20 cooling. Heck my Megahalems keeps my CPU's cooler than you do with H20, whatever configuration you are using happens to be, and I know *Nothing* about H20 other than it's wet, and my equipment doesn't like H20, long and short version! So I don't use it for the mild overclocks I am doing with my CPU's. 

At higher clocks you need to use H20 this is certain, like for me that means higher than 4.5Ghz or so, for any extended testing or use, such as Vantage runs, or 3DMark11 or 06 runs, not LinX runs. I can run my CPU's at up to 4.7Ghz for short periods and they are perfectly stable, it's simply temps get too warm on AIR Only, even for my jaded outlook on temps. I look at temps like this: if the temps are less than 90-degrees the run is a go (LinX), but I'll watch it like a hawk near those temps. Look at my qualification runs for my 970 and you'll see it was close to 90-degrees consistently in one Core, the others lower, but still that is HOT HOT HOT! Thus I "watched it closely" but completed the run, no harm, no foul @ 4.273Mhz, and I took it, logged it, and used it for the Stability Club run for that CPU.  

So I'm not afraid of higher temps than you are using, and are afraid of apparently. Don't be! If the CPU gets up to above 95 degrees C it will throttle down and cool the Cores off that are higher than that temp, it's automatic and there's no  harm done either. I've taken all my 920's to the wall and back, up to 95-degrees at some point, and they are perfectly healthy right now, some 2 years later. Have some courage and don't be so afraid of temps in the high 80's to low 90's, and I mean FEAR NOT young man, don't be so timid about these temps unless you are certain about getting a new H20 block, and very, very soon on that account!  

Anyway, it's a shame to see you still struggling @ 197 BCLK at this point, after all the "advice" people are giving you, so much advice, advice, and more advice! Are you getting confused or what? I would be, Hah Hah! I'd really pick a strategy, stick with it and improve it, and quit dancing with the stars here by trying everybody's suggestions out so readily. Nothing is working beyond 197 BLCK at this point, even @ 197 BCLK it seems, so I dunno what you are accomplishing other than treading H20! Like a swimmer trying to learn how to have a full racing stroke and is stuck paddling H20! THAT is what this seems like for me, I mean you should have made progress by now, not stuck at the same silly 197 BCLK! 

You have a great CPU, so quit doubting it!  For Christ sake! The Batch#3849B203 CPU's are almost golden, so don't fault the CPU, fault what you are doing for cooling and settings, that is what is wrong! I wish I was there to plug in some numbers in BIOS for you and make this happen, once and for all, that is so frustrating to be stuck at a low BCLK isn't it? I've personally never been there so I don't know how it feels, but being there now you must know that feeling, yah? As for BIOS, update it NOW, and get it over with and start fresh again...just jump right up there to 201 and work with it, that's my cogent advice. 

If you look back at the settings I posted for you, it included 1.3 QPI PLL VCore along with IOH being there too, that is at 1.3V for starters, and work with it from there. That will help stabilize your RAM and CPU both, especially the RAM, if it's giving you fits, and it should not be! Just raise the VDIMM to 1.67 and leave VTT down LOW at no more than 125+Mv, and you should be at +100Mv VTT if possible, and it is IS possible to do. That will lower temps and give stability both.  

Look, sometimes it's TOO MUCH of a setting that is harming our efforts, and VTT is a big culprit in that regard for serious overclockers. People throw about "+200 VTT" or higher, and that is just crazy! Nobody needs that much VTT in their wildest dreams, so don't get caught in that thinking either! Do something good for yourself: update the BIOS to 77, and just start fresh all over again! 

Good luck, and I hope this has helped you somehow, because I'm trying to help you the only way I can right now, and that is to beg off on any more advice for now, just take the best of the lot of things that people have volunteered for your benefit and use it, the rest DISREGARD! That would be most of what has been posted here of late, too...sorry to say. I know that CPU you have and it's a good Batch, trust me it is a great CPU. Look in the overclocking ladder and see the others in there at nice, high, stable overclocks with the B203 batch in the house! They are good CPU's!! End of discussion...

Have some fun if possible, loosen up, and just make some wholesale changes, do the BIOS update, and go for it! 

Later..... and I do wish you Good Luck! 

rexrzer77 

yeah ive plugged in the settings you have me try... i would boot amd everything.. but i get passed the 100c mark..


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 10:23:21 (permalink)
also why the bios 77.. is it the best one.?


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 11:11:16 (permalink)
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also why the bios 77.. is it the best one.?

No, S61J is the best one, but it is 1.5yrs old. 77 is the best of the newest - I've been watching them somewhat. Actually 80 was better, but was labelled "beta" and they took down the links. All the newer ones have had issues that haven't been resolved yet.
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 13:24:01 (permalink)
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also why the bios 77.. is it the best one.?

 
For a Classified E-760, with any serious attempts at overclocking higher than 4.2Ghz I highly recommend BIOS 77. If you want a legacy BIOS that is freakin' awesome it's SZ2Z, and I doubt that I will get any argument there from anybody. I don't know anything about the BIOS that Halloween is mentioning over and over again, maybe he knows something I don't--it's highly possible this is the case, as I am only recommending from my own experience not 'watching' BIOS and commentary from others on them.
 
If you are hitting 100-degrees C with my settings, there's something *major league* wrong with the cooling system you are using, so examine that first and take it from there. There is no way the settings themselves are *creating* high temps, as they are very moderate and simplistic for your purposes, that is why I posted them here for your benefit. If you were doing advanced overclocking, say higher than 4.5Ghz I'd have other recommendations for you, or if you were using a more modern CPU, some 6-Core Core i7 series 32nm CPU for instance, there are other things to consider than what I posted for you.  
 
What I posted for you is proven to work with the B203-series/Batch# CPU's, that is a fact not theory and I guarantee those settings to work, with a cooling system that is up to the  task that is. If your H20 is hitting 100-degrees it is *all wrong* somewhere, something, somehow, something basic is happening which is not worthy of your setup.   Frankly if H20 was doing that for me, I'd junk the whole apparatus and hit it with a Megahalems or other CPU AIR Only cooler that uses great fans, your choice there, but I recommend the Scythe SFF21-G series for CPU coolers and exhaust/intake fans both, as it's not just high CFM that matters. Maintenance and longevity also matter and they have 150,000-hour (7.2 years) product guarantee from Scythe, the best in the bizness, and two of them on a Megahalems I have proved work adequately to cool any type of overclock, and I mean ANY type or goal is within reach. 
 
You need to just stop this right now and fix your cooling, that is No.1 for you! There is no point in going forward without adequate measure to cool that great CPU and RAM combo you have, end of discussion. Nobody's recommendations are going to matter until you solve what is causing 100-degree temps, as that is simply unfortunate and unacceptable. If the H20 rig is worn out or broken somewhere, don't fool with it,  just REMOVE it and take it from there, and start with an AIR cooling setup if you have $$ issues right now, because surely you can afford $100 or so for a premium cooler and two fans. If there are other fans which are questionable in your rig replace them also, with good fans, fans that will work now and 2 years from now the same.  
 
I will always be available for your consults once you solve this problem above, the cooling issue you have, as will the others here I am certain. But first things first! 
 
Good luck, and use your head about these things!
 
Later, rexrzer77 
 
 



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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 13:29:09 (permalink)
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also why the bios 77.. is it the best one.?


For a Classified E-760, with any serious attempts at overclocking higher than 4.2Ghz I highly recommend BIOS 77. If you want a legacy BIOS that is freakin' awesome it's SZ2Z, and I doubt that I will get any argument there from anybody. I don't know anything about the BIOS that Halloween is mentioning over and over again, maybe he knows something I don't--it's highly possible this is the case, as I am only recommending from my own experience not 'watching' BIOS and commentary from others on them.

rexrzer, SZ2Z is only for the E758, doesn't work W/760 or classys. S61J is a close comparison to SZ2Z, they came out within a week of each other - which you would know if you did just a little research on these - like I did.
 
BTW, many ppls have touted S61J BIOS such as ShockTheMonkey. Oh I see he has updated to 77 now. No wonder, he also has a 980x now.
post edited by HalloweenWeed - 2011/05/06 15:02:52

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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 13:45:16 (permalink)
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also why the bios 77.. is it the best one.?


For a Classified E-760, with any serious attempts at overclocking higher than 4.2Ghz I highly recommend BIOS 77. If you want a legacy BIOS that is freakin' awesome it's SZ2Z, and I doubt that I will get any argument there from anybody. I don't know anything about the BIOS that Halloween is mentioning over and over again, maybe he knows something I don't--it's highly possible this is the case, as I am only recommending from my own experience not 'watching' BIOS and commentary from others on them.

rexrzer, SZ2Z is only for the E758, doesn't work W/760 or classys. S61J is a close comparison to SZ2Z, they came out within a week of each other - which you would know if you did your homework on these - like I did.

 
Hmmm, citing your post I just went back into my so-called brilliant memory for 'clocking and sure enough the last BIOS I used before 77 was not SZ2Z, that was in my E758 rig, so you are correct and I am mistaken there...sighh, old age I cite as a recurring theme here!  Indeed I am still using it there in my E758 SLI x 3 rig, and it works great to this day in that machine.
 
Thanks for watching my back there, as I previously used an ancient BIOS in my Classified's prior to updating to 77, and I mean from 2009, that would be S60Z I believe it was, or something close to that (memory again, as I don't have the notebooks handy right here...I'm at work now), so I went with that old, antique BIOS for almost 2 years and it worked well. The only reason I changed was BIOS got corrupted somehow in my Rig No.3, which still runs a 920 @ 4.2Ghz, but that I passed the Stability Test in @ 4315Mhz on AIR Only.  So from experience only I guess that previous BIOS S60Z is the legacy BIOS that I recommend, as I never did change to anything inbetween all that time between 2009 and early 2011, when I flashed both of my Classified rigs with 77 since I was doing one...might as well do the other. 
 
If your experience with BIOS, observation or otherwise, says you like that other, newer BIOS I don't have any experience with at all, then so be it. I can't argue about something I don't know or have experience with. 
 
Thanks for the correction! 
 
rexrzer77 
 
 



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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 13:46:27 (permalink)
that is the main reason why i keep pushing to stabilize my "197 base clock" scenerio!! cause it gives me acceptable temps.
and i think WE have found the weak link here, the cpu block, which is quite old atm.. been using it on my E8400@4.0 overclock running at 54c...i actually ordered a block and is being shipped as we speak.
lol.
anyways ill post up a template of my 197 base clock shortly.


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 14:46:53 (permalink)
v1ral, I have been reading about your BIOS 49, and it seems there was an issue with CxE on that one, particularly when you enable it your 920 core multiplier sometimes jumps up to 22 temporarily. In the template I gave you I recommended C3. That might have been the reason it did not work for you!

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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 15:06:48 (permalink)
BR for HalloweenWeed for all his help on this thread!! 

   
                         
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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 15:30:44 (permalink)
Issues with EVGA BIOS 49; BTW S3 sleep not fixed until BIOS 83:

"those with 920's are seeing the 22x multi on Core 0 with turbo Performance enabled which is screwing up their OC's." - Moltenlava
http://forums.evga.com...file.aspx?memid=475676
"this BIOS 49 totally messed up my Windows install, luckily i managed to save it by going back to an earlier BIOS (not the same one as i mistakenly flashed 224 instead of 22D), when i flashed 49 my Windows 7 install took ages to load not only the password screen but also my apps that usually appear in a blink of an eye since i have a SSD (i do have some secondary apps on a Raptor 150GB but they still dont take long to load), infact my Anti Virus wouldnt load at all, i tried several different times. " - Moltenlava
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #31
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=228648

Virtualization fails - multiple reports

"You can not overclock 758 SLI board beyond 4Ghz and resume successfully from S3 sleep. Using manual vcore to go 4.2 or 4.4Ghz, resume fails after 3rd attempt. The system just reboots instead of resuming." - lam_das
"Resuming from S3 will still set CAS value of DRAM to CAS 11 regardless of the BIOS setting causing system instability." - dejanh
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #52
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=229117

"Boot Up NumLock Status does not work" - mrmaint
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #71
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=229807

"Tried 49 for a bit and not totally sure what is deal is but it choked my 2 x 5970's down to horrible speeds.    I made triple sure that all settings in the BIOS that I'd been using previously were the same.    I had to pump up the voltage on my CPU with what were totally stable settings (Linx/Prime) previously in S61J and 44.
 
I cleared the CMOS and rest to default settings and nothing really changed.
 
Back to S61J for me.   In fact, as soon as I booted back up in S61J and had all the previously working settings configured it was back to normal.     I guess I'll just sit and be happy with S61J until any bugs are fixed." - mlippold
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #73
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=230092
"Cas Latency Memory Timings after resume from S3 Sleep are incorrect.  Timings are set 8-8-8-24 in BIOS and work correctly until resume from S3 Sleep, the timings change to 19-8-8-24.  Seems as if there were some problems with regard to the Turbo Performance option and RAM timings so this may be related.  This doesn't happen with S61J which I've reverted back to now." - chizow
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #107
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=231239
"After years of playing around with new technology I am not surprised that there are bugs with every new bios release. Would be nice if once these bugs become apparent a new beta hotfix to be released. Anyhow on my 759 I have also noticed and confirmed the cas latency changing after coming out of S3 sleep in Win7 on bios 49 from '8' to '11'.  The only thing that is overclocked right now is my memory controller at 1600 (memory rated at 1600 actually). Turbo and VT and CXe all turned off on a 920 D0 Stock frequency. At least Everest reports my Pci-e lanes operating at 16x. But dear Evga can we please have a working bios and put this problem to bed...

Thank you." - dmoheban
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #108
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=231416

"Seems if you have Turbo Performance Disabled and you have CxE set to either Auto or Cx whatever, Turbo Performance still kicks in. Real pita. I can't run any Cx settings unless I turn up my vcore and vtt which I don't want the heat." - ShockTheMonky
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #154
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=233948
"If you have CxE Function enabled with Turbo Mode the 2x bin multiplier for Core 0 (22x on the 920) will kick in more often than it did with previous BIOS (infact it pretty much never kicked in during normal use in previous BIOS's), when the 22x multiplier activates it can cause problems with peoples overclocks (people are experiencing BSOD's when it activates).

If you dont use CxE Function then you wont notice this issue, also if you have CxE Function enabled but Turbo Mode disabled it wont happen either." - Moltenlava
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #246
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=242958

"Unless you guy like playing craps, or have a Six Code CPU enroute. I wouldn't bother with 43,44, or 49. The Microcode changes made for the Gulftown/Westmere are not working well with the Bloomfeild processors. So you Folks with Quad cores, 920,960,965,and 975, probably be better of with the bios prior to bios 43_beta. The microcode thing is an intel thing, Not EVGA. So until Intel works out the "kinks" in the microcode, it's best to go back to the bios that best works for you." - firerx
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #242
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=242860

"Resuming from S3 will still set  bus interface of first PCIE 2.0 x16 Slot to PCIE 1.1 x16 (only Radeon HD5870)" - amazeguy
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #251
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=243039
Multiple complaints about resume from S3 with Radeon 5800 series

"seems somehting has changed on the Memory front even in 49, the Round Trip Latency setting for each channel has changed over previous BIOS's if left on AUTO, more specifically for me they are looser than previous BIOS's, maybe this was necessary to get the 14x mem multi (1866) working again (since it was broken in 43), not sure how that could damage memory but it indicates something changed in regards to memory and since memory damage has occured after a BIOS update it may show a link." - Moltenlava
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #262
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=244962

"Having a lot of issues with this bios.VTT is way higher than what you set in bios so is memory voltage.I know the built in windows tests are not that great but when I run winsat mem, my memory score dropped from over 30000 to 26000 with same settings of 7 8 7 20 1t shows 2006 frequency in bios and 998.5 frequency in cpuz. I am also getting random bsod where I was stable before.I am getting a little woried about sticking the new chip in I ordered.BTW I am using 965 extreme" - rwoodburn1
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #263
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=245035

"If you don't plan on buying a 980x then 49 and 44 will do you no good. Roll back your bios to previous before 44." - ShockTheMonky
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #271
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=247149
"Ppl who are running Bloomfields (ie like your 920) have reported various issues with 44 and 49 that aren't showing up with Gulftowns (ie 980x). This is with all 44 and 49 releases on all x58 mobo with EVGA. So majority have found going back to previous bios before 44 works far better. Still some issues with pre-44/49 but 44-49 only added more." - ShockTheMonky

"Funny, How Shock the Monkey ,and myself have repeated serveral times during the thread that the Gulftown microcode is not APPROPRIATE for bloomfield operation, Therefore, DO NOT use bios's 44-49 if you not planning to get a hexacore CPU in the near future. Even, Shamino has been here concerning this either on." - firerx
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #285
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=248818

"I think you did not read the last two messages: People want the VT fix and have Turbo Performance disabled AND they are seeing freezes with this BIOS even at low overclocks. No matter what Shamino has to say, let's not paper over the fact that this BIOS is unstable as hell! Turbo Performance or not!
Moreover if a feature is for a specific CPU, it should not be shown in BIOS setup for other CPUs. That's basic programming, and basic sanity check! Goes to show how much effort they are putting in developing BIOS. I think there is one guy sitting in basement somewhere modifying a line or two of the BIOS code of the existing boards to add support for newer CPUs.
If I am wrong, then prove me wrong EVGA!" - lam_das
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #287
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=248979

"Started freezing for no apparent reason, even while idle / browsing the net.. no BSOD, just freezes. Have just flashed back to SZ2Z and will see how that goes. No other changes made to the config that might explain the freezes - the only change was the v49 bios (and yes, I cleared cmos and entered a low 3.6GHz o/clock manually, not by restoring a profile)." - Nereus
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #279
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=248098
"Yes, I too am experiencing random Windows freezes, even when idling." - ccnd8
"i am getting freeze ups too and its ridiculous!!!
The funny thing is i couldnt even update to 49.
Damn BIOS during boot and loading Caldera just freezes!!!!
will try to step back to prior to 44" - fabbasi
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #329
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=251767

"ya S61J is the last stable BIOS for me and what I would recommend for anyone not running a Gulftown 6-core CPU.  The 44 and 49 BIOS have problems with S3 resume CL latency, Performance/Turbo/whatever mode and memory dividers above 1600MHz." - chizow
EVGA X58 Motherboards - BIOS 49 Released - Post #337
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=251937

"To Whom It May Concern,
I updated my BIOS with 49 and now my RAM is read as DUAL channel...I'm running a E760 with DDR3 triple channel memory and haven't had this problem until I updated my BIOS to 49.
*Flashes board back to S61J*" - ShadowFox19
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=264687


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 15:37:43 (permalink)
BIOS 49 was just one of a string of dud BIOSes, 43-64 in particular. For a while there in 2010 they were rolling out about every 3 weeks.

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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 23:39:52 (permalink)
Okay guys.. to clear things up with the bios thing.
I do in fact have bios 60...
I haven't changed anything since I bought this board...
AIDA64 shows it as
BIOS Version    Release Number IX58S60V
which I am thinking it's bios 60... 
If that makes any difference...
 
post edited by v1ral - 2011/05/06 23:50:36


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/06 23:57:02 (permalink)
Bios Template as it stands now with "197 base clock"
Mother Board ( EVGA X58 Classified E-760 )                                                      
Drivers ( ? )
Bios ( 60 ) not 49                                                                                                   
 CPU ( 920 D0 ) ( Batch #3849B203 )                   
CPU Cooler ( D. Teck Fuzion v2 )
Memory ( G.Skill P.I Blue 8-8-8-21 1600mhz )
PSU ( Corsair HX850W )
GPU ( EVGA GTX 470 SC+ )
Drivers ( Latest )                                                                                                 
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate )


Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20*+1 )                                                                                        
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 197 )                                                                     
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )                                               
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )  

Memory Feature       
Memory Speed ( Standard )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 15xxmhz / 2:8 )                                                               
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 8 )
tRCD Setting ( 8 )
tRP Setting ( 8 )
tRAS Setting ( 21 )
tRFC Setting ( Auto )( 88 )
Command Rate ( Auto )( 1t)


Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( with VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.2935 )                                                                                               
CPU VTT Voltage ( +200 )
CPU PLL VCore ( Auto )( 1.8)
**IOH PLL VCore ( Auto ) ( 1.8)
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 )
DIMM DQ Vref ( Auto )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.325 )
IOH VCore ( 1.3 )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )( 1.5 )
**VTT PWM Frequency ( 250 KHZ )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( 800 KHZ )
**CPU Impedance ( Less )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( Less )
ICH VCore ( Auto )( 1.05)



CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.8 )
OC Recovery ( Disabled )
Turbo Performance ( On )

PnP/PCI     PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( Auto )
 
Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S3 ) ? 
HPET Support ( Enabled )?    
HPET Mode ( 64-bit )?
 
*note I had to raise VTT cause I would get BSOD's
post edited by v1ral - 2011/05/07 00:59:29


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Re:I want 4.2 ghz on my 920.. help me get there.. 2011/05/07 03:47:18 (permalink)
with Vdroop on your dropping to 1.25-1.26 try without Vdroop.

 

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