okay ill try it when i get home also what it i am unable to?

yeah if
haha i actually tried setting uncore to x16 and x17 as per suggestion, made it snappy however still failed.
anyways.. question how 60 trfc or whatever affect anything?

rafale

rexrzer77


I am running a Batch#3849B203 CPU, a Batch#3849B202 CPU, and a Batch#3849B056 CPU along with my new Baby Boy, the 970 HexaCore CPU, and my point is I have been stable and solid with the 920's for two years and counting...right at YOUR preferred Mhz of 4210Mhz 24/7, doing FAHome BigAdvanced Work Units over and over again, sort of like a Swiss watch works...so do I have your attention yet?

I think if you stop listening to all this *bad advice* you're getting in this massive missive of a thread, and listen to somebody who knows what they are talking about with the particular CPU you have, and RAM you have to boot on top of that (I run 12GB of the G. Skill Blue Pi 8-8-8-21-59 base clock RAM with the HexaCore 970 on top of all the other things I've got going on here).

If you want to get this deal handled and quit gassin' around with all this BS people are feeding you over and over again, page after page of it, and get with a program that will work for your equipment, then let's proceed. I'll help you if you agree to stop listening to the others and strictly do what I suggest until we get this deal handled, otherwise I'll Pasadena on helping you at all.  

Does that sound fair? I think it's a fair proposition, but you tell me about it if it appeals to your better sense at this point.  

I think I know what I'm doing with my CPU's, and I think I know what you need to get stable at 4.2Ghz, but are you willing to do it, and listen to my suggestions exclusively until this is a done deal?... that is the question...  

I'll give you a few minutes to think about an answer and check back here. I'll be ready and willing to get this situation handled if you are after that.

rexrzer77 

Nicely done Rexrzer. Haven't lost a bit of that arrogance of yours I can see.

V1ral, please try it out, I am waiting to see how different his results will be compared to the "*bad advices* and BS" all the other members who have been trying to help you have proffered.
I personally think that your chip is not capable of 4.2GHz with your current cooling because it will require much more voltage that's why I stopped posting. You have taken your chip to 4.1GHz so you are no idiot. You just ran into a wall with this chip but hey what do I know? Maybe some other members have had different experiences. That's why I see nothing wrong with what others have suggested here. Let master "Yoda" Rexrzer help you!

 
Rafale I am sorry that you think I'm just an arrogant SOB with nothing to do but prove all of you guys wrong as right rain, because that's not my station on planet earth. Look, I just happen to be running the exact same batch CPU and use the same RAM he does, so my best bet is with EXPERIENCE and proven stats and settings that I have that nobody else here has volunteered to give the young man.  
 
I mean it seems you are all more interested in HELPING YOURSELVES and getting assistance for your own pet projects and self adjustments, at least many of you are doing just that. Either that or it's just one big social club here at the forums these days, I guess! Hah Hah!  What are you guys accomplishing here anyway? Just look at this thread, some 7 pages of it and the poor boy is still stuck where he was when you started.  
 
Too much advice, bad advice over and over again leads nowhere, sorry to say. That's not an arrogant thought it's reality so take it or leave it I don't care, all and any of you. There's just too many voices going on here and all of you are not capable of concentrating as a single entity on this forum last time I checked, so pallleeeezzze cease and desist and/or just give the young man his due and quit doing this crap to him!  
 
If he is content to be in the head of the realm of this forum's social club, such as it is, then continue on doing what you are doing I guess. I like each and every one of you here, don't get me wrong at all about any of this commentary...don't forget that ok? It's simply that you are giving him TOO MUCH ADVICE, and the wrong advice-- and on top of that you are trying to act "as one entity" here and that is impossible, sorry to say .  
 
I may not have the answer for him, but certainly I have the answer for these CPU's overall, that is certain! And the RAM also, since I have been running it for some 2 years now! Straight! It's my favorite RAM for your quick take on that topic, and the RAM is the key to the whole scenario with him failing in LinX while he struggles to please too many people here, and that guys is the bottom line.  
 
I only read part of this thread, maybe 3 pages max, but the rest of it is the same...why read ALL of it?
 
Now I've let it slide for a couple days and maybe thought that somebody would/should/might hit the paydirt with settings for his rig, but nobody has! And here you all sit prognosticating RAM and Uncore and VTT theory and practice and none of it applies here, it really doesn't...sorry to say.  
 
Now I'll have my say to the young man in private and let him decide what to do about the situation, because it ain'r workin' the way it's going now...very, very sorry to say. Either he has a material DEFECT or TWO iin ihis equipment, which is causing all these problems from the get-go, which IS possible, but that can be discovered you know? Just a couple simple tests and we'll know that for a fact he's got a physical issue with one thing or another, and that is what is preventing success, sweet old success. That is a word I have not seen used here yet, and why is that guys and gals!? 
 
I dunno, I am not trying to "top the mark" of the whole crew here at this place, because that would be absurd...and stupid and irrational. But I am telling each and every one of you to BACK OFF a little and try and let one or two of you concentrate on the topics that make a difference, if you do anything for him at all, and stop being repetitive and same-saying over and over AGAIN!! I would like for this guy to have success, that is all I know about it, and if I can help make it happen well then more power to my success with these type of CPU's, boards, and RAM! 
 
I am going to read these last two pages and see what the Heck has been said there, and I'll give it a shot later tonight...not right now as I have two irons in the fire with my server and my laptop being re=imaged by Paragon's Hard Disk Manager 11, which I cannot stop the process of, so I will take it up with this scene a little later if you all will be so kind as to let me have a go at the situation.  
 
That is all I ask, to let me have a go at it without a bunch of intervention and unnecessary words of advice at that point, that is all I would like to write. Maybe I'll  actually discover the issue here, finally! Maybe I won't but I'll give it a good shot and I do, I repeat this fact, run the SAME CPU and RAM and BOARD, BIOS is 77 for what it's worth on both of my Classified rigs, cause I LIKE 77, not 80, 91, 79 whatever...I like 77 as a way to get stable, and I think it's the winner here recently. 
 
Thank you for reading and listening, and I do hope that we all have a good night of it here in this thread! I hope that some sense can finally be made of his "problems" such as they manifest themselves to us all. That I really, honestly hope for most of all. If I read these last two pages and find some revelation of sorts and want to leave things alone, well so be it. But chances are chances are awfully good that things are still the same here as at page No.2!!  
 
Have a nice evening guys, and take it easy, I don't bite and I don't mean any harm...honest to God that's the Gospel! 
 
rexrzer77 
 

Uh oh... rexrzer77 IN DA HOUSE

I've read this last post with great interest hoping to learn something from the demi-god but I have not found anything Drey or Halloweenweed have already suggested only put in many words. There is nothing wrong or new in there. 
We have all come to the same conclusion that V1ral has a thermal problem unfortunately.

update.
i indeed plugged in settings.however after errors do i up vcore?

I went past 1.3 vcore  about a notch above it, and temps got out of control about in the mid 90's.
Raised Vdimm to 1.67 *bsod suggested I raise it. Went okay but while I raised vcore but stopped due to temps, as we've all suspected a newer updated water block is in order!!
 

My problem with lowering the VTT is that I get intermittent disappearing memory when I do it but it has obviously worked for others. VTT is definitely contributing to the high temps and I managed to lower the VTT by raising the QPI PLL voltage. HalloweenWeed has been very successful with his setup. It could be a good base to work from for V1ral but I still fear that his chip is asking for too much voltage to get up to 4.2GHz and his cooling is insufficient to sustain it.

Like I said before his VREG temps are in the 60s at load...if his loop is good enough to keep his vreg that low, there is no way his cpu should ever be getting that high...my vreg is at 57c and hottest core at 65c while folding...plus I have 2 gpus in the loop also folding...I understand his ambients are warmer but difference in vreg temps and cpu shouldnt be so high...

v1ral

I went past 1.3 vcore  about a notch above it, and temps got out of control about in the mid 90's.
Raised Vdimm to 1.67 *bsod suggested I raise it. Went okay but while I raised vcore but stopped due to temps, as we've all suspected a newer updated water block is in order!!

 
Keep those settings in mind after you get your water block, that's all I have to contribute. There won't be a lot of commentary from me unless you need to fine tune those settings a little, but with a new H20 block (if you are staying with H20---ever think of just getting a Megahalems and a couple fans and be happy?) those settings, with slight variations on them, will work fine for that CPU and that RAM that you are using.  
 
If I can do it with 12GB RAM and those settings, slightly varied for my setup now with the 970, aka much increased VCore albeit, then so can you with the same settings, varied every so slightly for your setup with  H20...it will probably take increased VCore for your setup, but not much more than 1.3V with that CPU you have. I run mine on AIR ONLY @ 1.25000 24/7, but it's most likely an exceptional chip of that variation, the Batch#3849B203 variation specifically.. I do like that CPU though, in an H20 setting it should just fly like pigs on blankets!  
 
EDIT; For Example!  My 970 is running right now, right next to me, doing a Big Adv 
WU on Folding@Home 100% RAM and CPU Load, and my temps are 66, 65, 64, 59, 67, 58 with the nice, heady 970 that I am running in the rig these days, ON AIR!
 
Look Rafale and Halloween, you are doing just fine with the young man, I don't mind that you've been giving it your best efforts to solve his "issues". But he doesn't have any really, just an equipment issue that is ALL he has going for him negatively. The RAM is great stuff; the CPU is from a batch of proven low voltage 920 Intel CPU's from Costa Rica at or about April, 2009; in short, he has nothing to solve really. I'd simply plug in a slight variation of my settings above and be happy, as they are easy to figure out for a given setup once the temps are reasonable, that is.  
 
All of this is going to be skewed slightly because of his high temps, so I don't see why you are beating your heads against the wall at all. Just encourage him to get his equipment handled, that is all you have to do at this point. No theories, no bashing, no solid evidence of this or that working well. Just use the settings that I guarantee will work for him WITH cooler temps in the house. I don't see why he doesn't just get happy with AIR frankly, speaking from experience there also!  
 
I've done my bit now, so you guys just go ahead and take over from here as I don't have the time to be coaching every single newbie with a bad H20 block how to over clock already good equipment! If anybody really needs my help after this, regarding anything in this thread I've written or volunteered as a block of settings above, then PM me and I'll come a runnin' OK!? Use the PM system here, I'll get the message pronto! 
 
Have fun, and young man, get your H20 block handled quickly before all these guys have a heart attack or worse! Or get yourself a Megahalems, and two Scythe SFFG-21 S-Flex Sony FDB Fans (dynamic fluid bearings 1.25" across), and you will have the temps situation handled ON AIR! 
 
Later,
rexrzer77 

Drey070

Before I went with water my vreg temps where always 10c higher than my cpu with all stock heatsinks...and I was running at pretty close to stock volt settings at 3.8ghz...i guess just from my experience my vreg was always warmer than my cpu until I went with water...now my cpu is never more than 10c warmer than my vreg at any overclcok that I've had..

 
Sounds like you had bad airflow on your VREG 
There is no reason for his CPU to get this hot at these volts under water unless there is something wrong with his cooling.

Drey070

Before I went with water my vreg temps where always 10c higher than my cpu with all stock heatsinks...and I was running at pretty close to stock volt settings at 3.8ghz...i guess just from my experience my vreg was always warmer than my cpu until I went with water...now my cpu is never more than 10c warmer than my vreg at any overclcok that I've had..

 
That's with an ANALOG VREG Heat sink, if I may interject my thoughts here quickly for your general benefit Drey070, and there's NOTHING WRONG with temps in the 80's with the stock VREG setup on AIR at a 4+Ghz overclocking! I am running an X758 SLI 3 motherboard, right now, sitting right next to me here under the desk, with a Megahalems and two Scythe fans, 1.275VCore, variations on my settings above for the type of board, (but just small variations at that), and my temps ON AIR only right now on a hot SoCal day are 77,75,76,74 CPU temps, and the VREG is at 86C and I am not worried about it at all. So your theory about 10+ degrees for the VREG is pretty close to reality with the type of board you have. THAT IS NORMAL! 
 
With the Classified and a Digital VREG unit the temps are significantly LOWER, in the 60's is normal for mine for example, at 4.215Mhz with the 970, and the other Classified is in my garage running on this hot day in the 70's VREG temps, and low 80's CPU temps--ON AIR only! I am not worried about either one of those setups either, as they are stable as the sun coming up! 
 
EDIT: It's 98-degrees F in the garage right now, and in the house it's about 77-degrees on AC.
 
rexrzer77 

rexrzer77

v1ral

I went past 1.3 vcore  about a notch above it, and temps got out of control about in the mid 90's.
Raised Vdimm to 1.67 *bsod suggested I raise it. Went okay but while I raised vcore but stopped due to temps, as we've all suspected a newer updated water block is in order!!

Keep those settings in mind after you get your water block, that's all I have to contribute. There won't be a lot of commentary from me unless you need to fine tune those settings a little, but with a new H20 block (if you are staying with H20---ever think of just getting a Megahalems and a couple fans and be happy?) those settings, with slight variations on them, will work fine for that CPU and that RAM that you are using.  

If I can do it with 12GB RAM and those settings, slightly varied for my setup now with the 970, aka much increased VCore albeit, then so can you with the same settings, varied every so slightly for your setup with  H20...it will probably take increased VCore for your setup, but not much more than 1.3V with that CPU you have. I run mine on AIR ONLY @ 1.25000 24/7, but it's most likely an exceptional chip of that variation, the Batch#3849B203 variation specifically.. I do like that CPU though, in an H20 setting it should just fly like pigs on blankets!  

EDIT; For Example!  My 970 is running right now, right next to me, doing a Big Adv 
WU on Folding@Home 100% RAM and CPU Load, and my temps are 66, 65, 64, 59, 67, 58 with the nice, heady 970 that I am running in the rig these days, ON AIR!

Look Rafale and Halloween, you are doing just fine with the young man, I don't mind that you've been giving it your best efforts to solve his "issues". But he doesn't have any really, just an equipment issue that is ALL he has going for him negatively. The RAM is great stuff; the CPU is from a batch of proven low voltage 920 Intel CPU's from Costa Rica at or about April, 2009; in short, he has nothing to solve really. I'd simply plug in a slight variation of my settings above and be happy, as they are easy to figure out for a given setup once the temps are reasonable, that is.  

All of this is going to be skewed slightly because of his high temps, so I don't see why you are beating your heads against the wall at all. Just encourage him to get his equipment handled, that is all you have to do at this point. No theories, no bashing, no solid evidence of this or that working well. Just use the settings that I guarantee will work for him WITH cooler temps in the house. I don't see why he doesn't just get happy with AIR frankly, speaking from experience there also!  

I've done my bit now, so you guys just go ahead and take over from here as I don't have the time to be coaching every single newbie with a bad H20 block how to over clock already good equipment! If anybody really needs my help after this, regarding anything in this thread I've written or volunteered as a block of settings above, then PM me and I'll come a runnin' OK!? Use the PM system here, I'll get the message pronto! 

Have fun, and young man, get your H20 block handled quickly before all these guys have a heart attack or worse! Or get yourself a Megahalems, and two Scythe SFFG-21 S-Flex Sony FDB Fans (dynamic fluid bearings 1.25" across), and you will have the temps situation handled ON AIR! 

Later,
rexrzer77 

He lives in a tropical island with no AC .....

Drey070 wrote: " He lives in a tropical island with no AC ..... "

Actually that's my family in Hawaii....

I live in SoCalifornia, Ventura County specifically, and it's HOT here today! In the mid 90's! 

rexrzer77  

Yea its 86 here i had to turn AC on...