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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/16 13:13:25
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Yes, I recall running into that and am trying to recall what I did to get it to stop that statement. I seem to think that I went to the hfm.exe file, looked at properties, and made a few changes in the "Permissions" tab. I think that I had "Read only" access there by default and changed it to "Read and write". I wish I could 100% say that was what I did, but I've done so much in Ubuntu that it is all sort of clouded together at this point.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/16 13:17:36
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Just remembered another thing to check in that Properties section of the HFM.exe file. In the "Permissions" tab, check to see that the "Allow executing file as a program" box has a check-mark in it. That may have been what did it for me.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/16 15:09:01
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That fixed it!!! Thanks a bunch Tex!! im loving Ubuntu so far. It really does make a pretty big difference for folding the Bigadv WU's. Im folding a 6900 faster at 4.5 than i was at 4.8 in windows. I have had a couple of crashes but i updated to the newest kernel and so far so good, ill keep an eye on it for a while and if i have anymore issues ill come back here cause you guys are so helpful. the only thing i havnt gotten to work properly is to see my current cpu clock speed. all i can get it to show is the default 3.4 ghz of my cpu, but i have the bios set to 4.8 right now. id like to be able to see the speed in Ubuntu to make sure things are woking properly.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/17 15:04:22
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Ok so, is there a way to tell what went wrong when Ubuntu crashes? so far ive crashed a time or two and i just dont know what the cause was cause there is no BSOD or anything to get a code from. also, i can boot and fold in windows at 5.0 Ghz but when i try to boot into Ubuntu, it just give me a black screen with a flickering cursor and then reboots. any ideas?
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/21 21:44:46
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I'm able to fold at 4.7 in Ubuntu and only 4.5 in W7. I almost finished a bigadv wu in W7 at 4.7 and it crashed at the last minute so I lost the wu. I ran Ubuntu at 4.7 for two weeks while traveling and no issues. Everyone, check out the gpu guide here and let me know if it works. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=6793
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/28 15:20:15
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so after fiddling with Ubuntu for the last week or so, i think i am fed up with it. It is just not very stable for me at all. I can fold at 4.9 with no problems in W7 but i cant seem to fold in Ubuntu consistently, even if i drop down to 4.5 Ghz. I get crashes at random points in and nothing is consistent. I have done all of the updates available. if there is something else i can try to increase stability, let me know, but for now, im moving back to windows.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/28 17:54:09
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4.9 in W7 isn't bad. What's your wu tpf?
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/28 20:14:55
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for the 6900, i think it was ~24:30 for about 51K ppd. now in linux i would get ~58K ppd at 4.8 but i cant trust it to not crash. it is very random and even down at 4.5 it would still crash.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/28 22:33:56
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What's your voltage? I run 1.4v at 4.7ghz.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/06/29 06:34:05
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~ 1.42 Volts. my chip will do 5ghz at 1.44 vcore and pass 20 passes of linX. But its still finnaky. i cant fold at 5 yet.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/03 17:33:08
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So I attempted the gpu folding again using the first gpu guide I mentioned but I still got the same error when running the client. The second guide just looks old so I'm afraid that it will kill my 560Ti driver. I guess I don't know enough about Linux to update the guides for the newest drivers.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/04 18:42:16
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rklapp
So I attempted the gpu folding again using the first gpu guide I mentioned but I still got the same error when running the client. The second guide just looks old so I'm afraid that it will kill my 560Ti driver. I guess I don't know enough about Linux to update the guides for the newest drivers.
Hey rklapp! You helped me, maybe I can help you..start reading this post at post #13: http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1086718 You may need the OLDER drivers. Don't know if that's the error you are getting, buy it may help anyway.
post edited by mflanaga - 2011/07/04 18:44:15
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/04 22:48:02
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Thanks. When I initially installed Ubuntu 10.10, I had to load the brand-spanking-new proprietary drivers to get Linux to recognise the 560Ti. When I installed 11.4, the packaged driver automatically recognised the 560. If I go back to an earlier driver, then Linux isn't going to recognise it and the screen will look like low-res crap. The guides that I've used include modified CUDA drivers that only work with older cards. The irony is that I want to fold on my 2nd gpu (9800gt) because I don't want the primary to take away from the smp folding (no, running at smp-7doesn't help and I don't want to swap the gpus).
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/05 05:00:41
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rklapp
Thanks. When I initially installed Ubuntu 10.10, I had to load the brand-spanking-new proprietary drivers to get Linux to recognise the 560Ti. When I installed 11.4, the packaged driver automatically recognised the 560. If I go back to an earlier driver, then Linux isn't going to recognise it and the screen will look like low-res crap.
The guides that I've used include modified CUDA drivers that only work with older cards. The irony is that I want to fold on my 2nd gpu (9800gt) because I don't want the primary to take away from the smp folding (no, running at smp-7doesn't help and I don't want to swap the gpus).
Hmmm, unfortunately the newer drivers for the latest Fermi cards are giving folders fits right now. They're good for gaming, but not for folding for some reason. Hope you can work it out, man. As to what I higlighted in red, it won't matter which slot any cards are in, you'll lose CPU cycles no matter how you set it up. I still do a lot of GPU folding with multiple mixed cards on 2 other machines, and using process lasso, it shows quite well the CPU usage for each card. The 470 and 450's use the most, 8-20% depending on wu. The 275's ony use about 2-3% per card. -smp 7 on both of those rigs running -bigadv. At least that's my experience. YMMV  Good luck!
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/06 10:13:47
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"To watch videos, go to Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center and search for the Flash Player" note, this will not work if you have the 64 bit version of the OS installed and are using a 64 bit browser. However, Adobe does have a 64 bit flash player in beta here: http://labs.adobe.com/dow...hplayer10_square.html.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/06 10:27:36
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rklapp How to monitor the cpu temperature: Note: I only know how to get it to work in the classic Gnome desktop. In 11.4, you need to select "Classic Desktop" below when you log in to your account. If anyone knows how to do this in the 11.4 Unity desktop, then do tell... do tell... - Open a Terminal and type $ sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
- Type $ sudo sensors-detect
- This will ask you a bunch of questions that you will reply with Y for each. It will then ask if you want to append the module file and type Y. The sensors that it finds depends on your mobo. For example, my Asus P8P67 Pro has the "adt7574" probe which will only tell me the four core temps.
- Type $ sudo service module-init-tools start
- Type $ sudo sensors
- If you see the sensor readings, then you have done well Padawan. The next step is to show the temps in the Panel (assuming you are using the Classic Desktop).
- Type $ sudo apt-get install lm-sensors sensors-applet
- Right click on one of the top or bottom task bars and select "Hardware Sensors Monitor". This will show the temps for each gpu and each physical core.
I'm on the latest ubuntu and have something available for that, that I'm pretty sure came as part of the default install package. It's called xsensors 0.70. I think I got to it by going to the applications folder in the left sidebar, then click on the "Show [e.g.] 97 more applications", then selecting "xsensors" all the way at the bottom right. Unfortunately it doesn't tell me which temp corresponds to what, but I have a temp1 reading of 49, and a temp2 of 42, so either those are the two cores of my core i5 or that's a core and a NB temp? [edit: I have 4 cores...so Temp1 is probably either the temp of Core0 or Tcase?] If you don't have xsensors you can probably get it with the GUI via the Aptitude Package Manager (which is on my desktop in addition to "terminal" and "update manager", which itself is probably redundant). In any case, once you DO have xsensors (or another such program) installed, after launching it you can dock it to the tray mac-style. Right click on the icon and select "Keep in Launcher". Or you can probably make a desktop icon off of the applications folder entry. update to the above..I have since installed lm-sensors as well....this is my output acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1: +42.0°C (crit = +125.0°C) temp2: +40.0°C (crit = +127.0°C) temp3: +0.0°C (crit = +127.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0000 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: +45.0°C (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0002 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 2: +38.0°C (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C) so xsensor's temp1 is probably the core0 temp and temp2 is probably the core2 temp? Where the readings for cores 1 and 3 are, I don't know. also seems odd that an "instantaneous" poll using multiple "drivers" would pull temps up to 3 degrees apart in either direction.
post edited by pagelm - 2011/07/06 10:47:38
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/06 11:40:19
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"rklapp" Note: I only know how to get [Hardware Sensors Manager of lm-sensors] to work in the classic Gnome desktop [and not the new Unity desktop]. Figured out how to get it to work on Unity using the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/ques...e-gnome-panel-in-unity Note: following these instructions will result in disappearance of the default gnome toolbars, so will inhibit your ability to switch away from unity and back to gnome. Use these instructions with caution or see post 80 for backup/restore options. You may be able to uninstall gnome and re-install it to get a default appearance, and there may be a way to back up your gnome settings prior to beginning this (if anyone's figured this out, please add to/amend this guide). 0. install lm-sensors as described in the OP - Run "nohup gnome-panel 2>>/dev/null &" in the terminal ("nohup" keeps the process running if you kill this window, unless you log out. "&" runs the process in the "background" as far as the terminal is concerned. "2>>/dev/null" discards error output)
- GNOME Classic toolbars will appear over unity (default: top and bottom)
- [inserted section] Right click on the top (gnome) toolbar and select "new panel".
- A new toolbar will appear. If this isn't at right, right click on the new blank toolbar and select "Properties." On the "general" tab change "orientation" to "right."
- On the blank toolbar on the right side, right click and select "add to panel".
- Scroll down for "Hardware Sensors Manager" and add it. Feel free to repeat this process for other useful applets (e.g. "Show Desktop") [end inserted section]
- Remove the top panel [edit: and bottom panel] for we can use the Unity panel. Accomplish this by right clicking on the panels and selecting "Delete this panel". Be careful that you do this to a GNOME panel, and not a Unity panel (if that's possible:P)
- [Edit: I have no idea what the unlock panel thing in the initial instructions does...it's simplest to just create the new panel, so I've deleted this instruction]
- Right click over the gnome-panel then choose properties.
- Uncheck the 'Expand' box
- Add gnome-panel to startup applications. [applications->show all applications->startup applications. Add. Name="Gnome Panel (HWMonitor)" Command=gnome-panel. Make sure the checkbox appears next to it. Close]
- Feel free to move this new toolbar to another edge other than right. You can drag it up/down along an existing edge as well
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/06 11:59:14
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diminishing my contribution a bit: also XSensors can do this without the gnome overlay if you have the lm-sensors package installed and the service started. You'll see two+ "coretemp" entries in the left panel, which you can click on to see the temp of that core. but XSensors has a large display footprint and clicking to see what your other core's temp is is kind of a PITA. So, I like my gnome-panel solution:P
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/06 13:42:28
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Thanks all. I'll either try it or link it when I get back.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/07 06:14:20
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Backing up gnome panel before you begin (source: http://ubuntugenius.wordp...of-your-ubuntu-panel/) The following commands MAY need to be run with superuser privileges. in other words sudo gconftool-2... To backup your Gnome Panel settings, run the following commands in a terminal: [Edit:pagelm added] mkdir ~/Settings/ [end Edit] gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel > ~/Settings/panel_settings To restore your last saved Gnome Panel settings and refresh the desktop, run: gconftool-2 --load ~/Settings/panel_settings && killall gnome-panel If you did NOT back up your panel before doing the instructions in 77 but want to go back to gnome: According to http://www.watchingthenet...-default-settings.html you can issue these commands on a commandline (terminal) prompt gconftool-2 --shutdown gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel pkill gnome-panel You may have to restart your unix session for the default settings to re-propagate. Note, with a very similar series of commands, some users on another URL have reported not being able to restore the bottom toolbar properly. Also, I have not personally run this set of commands (I did do all the steps in post 77), so proceed with caution Edit: edited post 77 above to point to this post as well
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/08 00:07:00
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/08 04:11:20
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/09 14:49:21
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I think I'm going to figure out a way to couple cpulimit to lm-sensors. Reason being, I have a laptop and I really don't want it to overheat. Nor do I want to underclock, because I want to be able to browse the web and do other menial tasks at full speed. I could use nice/renice, but that will use all 100% of the processors at all times (so, I'd still overheat). And since it's a laptop, I can't exactly install a new fan or watercool it. This would be applicable for folding, or as I found last night, doing massive parallel bzip2 operations for archiving:P I'm sure if you have a renderfarm you might find it handy too. Basically, the idea will be to look at the temperature every 30 seconds or so and if above a threshhold like Tjmax-20, reset the cpu limit for the currently-most-CPU-intensive process to an arbitrary percentage (lets go with 50). If you're above a higher threshhold (say Tjmax-10), suspend the process with kill -SIGSTOP (or using cpulimit and setting the max % at 0-5). If you exceed Tjmax, you count on your hardware (or other software) knowing what to do. rklappI'm not sure. Another issue is that with the affinity wrapper, I'm running all cores at 100% and I'm not sure how to turn it off. I suppose I could create another folding folder without the AW. This should leave one core available for the gpu. I'm not ready to try it now, so please let us know how the performance is. If you are able to use affinity for 3 and run another process on the 4th processor, you could use the cpulimit package to hold that one down to 75% of the processor...or you could just nice/renice the project to have a low affinity on that core.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/10 07:32:35
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I remember trying to run Xsensors before and got nothing. Now when I installed from the USC and run, it shows the temps as you describe so I'm not sure what I did to make it work. It shows in a window so the sidebar solution is better as you mentioned. I noticed that when I click on the Preferences for the Hardware Sensors Monitor in the taskbar, there is an Alarm option in the Sensors tab that also allows you to run a Command such as sigstop.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/10 10:29:21
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I have a question about this. I have no idea about it and what to do. Do you install windows and then install ubuntu over that or can you just take a blank drive and install ubuntu onto it? I would like to get my 970 folding with all 12 cores under linux for the big points.
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/10 10:37:59
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if you already have a windows installation, you can use the windows installer and create an easy to remove dual boot. Or just simply install it on a fresh disk
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/11 00:00:44
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Yes, they have several install options to choose from. I chose the Windows installer because I run Ubuntu while I'm traveling (smp only) and VMWare while at home (smp and gpus). The Ubuntu gives me the same ppd (for less watts used) as the VMWare/gpus but there are some things that can't be done in Linux (Netflix for one).
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/07/11 04:19:52
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I run as dual boot, but i don't fold/boinc in linux either, so vmware is a better sol'n there dual boot: laptop had Win7, I added ubuntu 10 without any sweat desktop had WinXP, but I managed to fudge over my install when adding debian, so had to reinstall XP again. Also dual boot
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/08/20 23:47:32
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cblaxx thanks a bunch for that tip. im having an issue with it though, i get an error when i try to launch it. in parentheses it says "permission denied" but i am an administrator for the computer. any ideas? I haven't checked in awhile. Did you fix the issue?
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Re:How to install Ubuntu/Linux for folding
2011/10/29 21:23:45
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I updated the guide with version 11.10.
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