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Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark

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2016/05/04 09:16:10 (permalink)
i've not updated the Bios yet but i'll try later. (on 2.07)


I'm using 2x DVB-S2 PCIE Satellite Cards... or i was, in my AMD 8350 990fxa (or similar) motherboard - actually has been running for a few years none stop.

I got my hands on an X79 Dark and for some reason, it does not like these PCIE cards at all. The LED doesn't show they are plugged in any slot.
What's strange is i can put a pcie x1 quadrro 290nvs in any slot while having an ati 290x in the first pci-e slot..
 
Any ideas?
although i'm a second user to the board, i think my warranty could still be valid for a month or 2 (shipping date of these boards is?)  so i really don't want to waste any time

Thanks in advance and i know it's getting on a bit with this board :)
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 09:25:25 (permalink)
    Welcome to the Forum acoloss
    You GPU should be installed in Slot 1 that is next to the CPU.
    Reset your Bios to the Defaults by holding down the Small Red Button on the MB for 5 Seconds.
    Read the Manual about the PICe Slots.
    X79 Chipset Motherboards
    Have you updated the other Driver from EVGA's Web Site?
    10-21-2014BIOS2.13150-SE-E789Win8/Win7/Vista/XPDownload            View
     
    2-01-2016Chipset Driver10.1.2.10150-SE-E789Windows 7 64bitDownload            View
     
    11-27-2013Bluetooth8.0.1.308150-SE-E789Windows 7 64bitDownload
     
    11-21-2013AudioR2.73150-SE-E789Windows 7 64bitDownload            
     
     
    Information about your Computer will allow members to help you.
    This info will really help other Forum Members to help you.
     
    Motherboard: X79 Dark
    Make: EVGA
    Model: ?
    Bios Version: 2.07
    Is Bios Current Yes or No.  NO
     
    CPU:
    Model:
    Settings:
     
    Memory:
    Make:
    Model:
    Settings:
     
    GPU/Video: AMD
    Make:
    Model:
    Driver Version:
    AGE:
     
    GPU/Video: NVIDIA
    Make:
    Model:
    Driver Version:
    AGE:
     
    PSU:
    Make:
    Model:
    AGE:
     
    Other PCI/PCIe installed Devices:
    Make:
    Model:
    Slot Number Installed:
    Driver Version:
     
    Other PCI/PCIe installed Devices:
    Make:
    Model:
    Slot Number Installed:
    Driver Version:
     
    OS:
    Version:
    Service Pack Level:
    Windows/Patch Level:
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 09:41:12 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    Welcome to the Forum 
    Have you updated the other Driver from EVGA's Web Site

     
    Hi and thanks a lot for the reply.
     
    The main reasons why i know they are not working are :
    The cards don't show up in the bios at the top right (or is that for GPU only?)
    The LEDs on the MB only show the 2 gpus (or 1 if i put one in) as being active.
    I'm using ESXI and the devices don't appear in Direct I/O Passthrough (but other devices do).

    by disabling lots of stuff in the bios i was able to get one of the dvb cards to show up in esxi

    When i get in from work I will update the bios, if there is no difference I will install windows and see if all the devices are visible there  (only places i can install drivers).

    Thanks


     
     
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 09:56:42 (permalink)
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    bcavnaugh
    Welcome to the Forum 
    Have you updated the other Driver from EVGA's Web Site

     
    Hi and thanks a lot for the reply.
     
    The main reasons why i know they are not working are :
    The cards don't show up in the bios at the top right (or is that for GPU only?)
    The LEDs on the MB only show the 2 gpus (or 1 if i put one in) as being active.
    I'm using ESXI and the devices don't appear in Direct I/O Passthrough (but other devices do).
    by disabling lots of stuff in the bios i was able to get one of the dvb cards to show up in esxi

    When i get in from work I will update the bios, if there is no difference I will install windows and see if all the devices are visible there  (only places i can install drivers).

    Thanks

    Have you reset the Bios?
    You are not providing enough information for anyone to help you.
    Knowing you do not have an OS installed makes it harder as well.
    What version of ESXI are you using?
    What CPU are you using?
    Which Slots are the Cards installed into?
    Some PCIe Devices are not seen in the Bios as you have stated above and the OS needs to be installed and the Drivers for the Device.
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2016/05/04 10:03:04

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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 10:01:31 (permalink)
    thanks :
     
    Motherboard: X79 Dark
    Make: EVGA
    Model: ? is there any others?
    Bios Version: 2.07
    Is Bios Current Yes or No.  NO
     
    CPU: core i7
    Model: 4930k
    Settings: stock 3.4ghz (also had a quick test 4.2ghz with 42x 100mhz)
     
    Memory: 32gb
    Make: Corsair
    Model: Dominator Platinum
    Settings: 1866mhz
     
    GPU/Video: AMD
    Make: Asus (also tried others)
    Model: 290x
    Driver Version: n/a
    AGE: 2 years
     
    GPU/Video: NVIDIA
    Make: Nvidia
    Model: 290 nvs Quadro
    Driver Version: N/A
    AGE: old
     
    PSU: 850 Watt
    Make: Corsair
    Model: RM850
    AGE: New ish
     
    Other PCI/PCIe installed Devices:
    Make: TechnoTrend Budget s2
    Model: not 100% by it's something like 1400s
    Slot Number Installed: 2
    Driver Version: n/a
     
    Other PCI/PCIe installed Devices:
    Make: TBS
    Model: 6982 Dual Tuner
    Slot Number Installed: 4
    Driver Version: n/a
     
    OS: ESXI
    Version: 6.0
    Service Pack Level: n/a
    Windows/Patch Level: n/a
    Although i have a windows 10 Pro fully updated, VM with GPU Passthrough enabled for the 290x and all working fine.
     
    Also have a h100i corsair water cooler..

    Basically i use esxi so I can run all this on 1 computer:

    1x Windows Gaming System
    1x TVHEADEND Satellite Server
    1x pFsense Router/Firewall
    other linux distros
    with my other tower I also ran a FreeNAS VM with an lsi raid card passed-through to the VM... i'm hoping to just pass through the marvel controller to freenas instead with the dark..
    and I had KodiBuntu with cheap 5450 gpu passedthrough with a hdmi through my wall to my TV....
     
    but with the evga dark, i haven't got to the point of it seeing any satellite cards.. i'm wondering if something to do with the shared lane business (which i unfortunately I haven't researched).
    I did install windows before i installed esxi to make sure everything was working (with some benchmarks) but i hadn't installed any additional pcie cards then so i don't know if they would or would not show up..


     
     
     
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 10:02:55 (permalink)
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    Welcome to the Forum 
    Have you updated the other Driver from EVGA's Web Site

     
    Hi and thanks a lot for the reply.
     
    The main reasons why i know they are not working are :
    The cards don't show up in the bios at the top right (or is that for GPU only?)
    The LEDs on the MB only show the 2 gpus (or 1 if i put one in) as being active.
    I'm using ESXI and the devices don't appear in Direct I/O Passthrough (but other devices do).
    by disabling lots of stuff in the bios i was able to get one of the dvb cards to show up in esxi

    When i get in from work I will update the bios, if there is no difference I will install windows and see if all the devices are visible there  (only places i can install drivers).

    Thanks

    Have you reset the Bios?
    You are not providing enough information for anyone to help you.
    Knowing you do not have an OS installed makes it harder as well.
    What version of ESXI are you using?
    What CPU are you using?
    Some PCIe Devices are not seen in the Bios as you have stated above and the OS needs to be installed and the Drivers for the Device.



    Hi sorry and thanks for the quick responses, i was replying to the other post.

    I have reset the bios (but not updated it)
    ESXI 6.0 update 2 (latest)
    4930k
     
    Kind regards and I really like the fast responses.. :D
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 10:03:54 (permalink)
    Model: ? is there any others? Yes One has Bluetooth (150-SE-E789) and one does not come with Bluetooth (150-SE-E789-K2). 
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 10:07:46 (permalink)
    Thank you,
     
    the one i have, has bluetooth
     
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/04 17:38:04 (permalink)
    updated the bios, same issue. (but it does show in windows)
    I'd say the board is fine but it seems esxi can't see the devices to be able to passthrough.
     
    not to worry and thanks for your help.
    post edited by acoloss - 2016/05/05 09:39:47
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/12 23:06:34 (permalink)
    in case someone has the same issue - the problem is related to pcie-1.0a .. to fix would require a bios update
     
    more information can be found here >

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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/13 05:30:20 (permalink)
    If it is that, you're going to be waiting forever for EVGA to release an updated BIOS to fix it.

    I say that because it took them over a year to fix sound card incompatibilities, and those are actually used for gaming (and not work, for which they are of the opinion (these days) that you should have purchased a server motherboard and not their server grade/enthusiast boards.
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    Re: Hi, PCI-e Issues with cards - X79 Dark 2016/05/13 09:54:41 (permalink)
    I sold my board now.. but i think it could be partly solved by forcing pcie gen 1 in the bios
    the problem seems to be related to "auto" configuration..
    i did play around with this and get one card visible so might be doable that way.
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