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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/07 18:07:59
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HPET mode is controversial somewhat. I use 64, was told back then that was the way to go for 64-bit OS. But this year there has been a couple of debates about it, no clear answer for you. You prob will never know the diff. Apparently it usually doesn't really matter much either way.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/07 18:18:59
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Ok i'll keep the HPET mode at 32. Ok so now if to do that post 40 to try to take this to the next level to 32 X I have to do the stuff from post 40 and I keep moving up until when I reach my max "Number X" I do the LinX 25 test and then then P95 and if both pass I have succeeded?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/07 18:29:09
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Steph1 Ok i'll keep the HPET mode at 32. Ok so now if to do that post 40 to try to take this to the next level to 32 X I have to do the stuff from post 40 and I keep moving up until when I reach my max "Number X" I do the LinX 25 test and then then P95 and if both pass I have succeeded? Yeah, theoretically speaking you will have reached a maximum acceptable temperature at that point.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/07 18:37:41
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Oh so you think 32 X would be my max theorically speaking? Why would it be a bad idea to go higher if my temperatures are around the 70 70 70 70 70 70 zones? With the Vreg in the 50s zone?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/07 18:44:32
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Steph1 Oh so you think 32 X would be my max theorically speaking? Even if the temperatures are around the 70 70 70 70 70 70 zones? With the Zreg in the 50s zone? No, but you'll never know until you raise your CPU Vcore and find out. I'm guessing about 33. Keep us posted, tell us your settings (Vcore and multi) and what temps you are reaching please.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/07 22:29:32
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Ok so I redid two LinX tests for the 30 and 31 right now just to let you know. It passed the 30 X with 68 72 68 68 71 72 VReg 47 It failed the 31 and gave me the Blue screen Error. The error read STOP: 0x0000003B On the blue screen. Since this error has 3B at the end does that mean that it's a different error then the 1E? Should I still start the Vcore part? For now, I reverted to 30 X.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/08 03:53:02
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3b is usually that you have VTT set too high. Check it, is it still +0? Set it to +0 (take it off of auto) anyway. If VTT is +0, try DIMM 1.55V (Voltage control section). 3b indicates something is not set perfect regarding your memory in BIOS - usually a voltage.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/08 09:06:01
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Oh ok I went into the bios and the VTT was at 200. It is now back at 0. I took it off auto. I am taking the two tests for 31 X and 32 X again to see if I get that 1E again. When I get that 1E again I will do the VTT. Currently passed at 31 X: 67 71 66 68 69 67 VREG 45 Now doing 32 X: Ok it failed the 32 X test with the blue screen saying Technical information: *** STOP: 0x00000124 What would this mean I have to do? Would this be a different error than 1E? I have reverted back to 31 X. Update: I put the DIMM Voltage from 1.5V to 1.550V
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 02:12:17
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124 is either VTT or Vcore try increase one or the other and test again.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 02:26:11
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How much should I increase them by
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 02:36:20
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1 tick up until something changes :) good luck.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 02:38:52
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Would I go about increasing 1 everytime for the CPU VTT Voltage? Also, would I increase the CPU Vcore for example: 1.27500V to 1.27501V?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 02:45:59
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lol no Vcore has set values you increase by you select the next option up. Same with VTT. They are 2 separate voltages only increase them one at a time to test. Its trial and error. since their is no set voltages that it will magically run at :) every CPU is different.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 06:04:38
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Steph1 When I get that 1E again I will do the VTT. No, don't do that. In the first place, always try several ticks higher Vcore before you resort to raising any other voltage, no matter what the BSOD code is. Secondly, 1E does NOT mean VTT needs raising. It sometimes means too much QPI PLL and not enough Vcore. Third, it is 124 or 9C that sometimes means raise VTT. Again when you get these try raising Vcore about 0.05V before you back Vcore down and then try raising VTT by +50mV increments. OC voltage rule: Always just try raising Vcore first to stabilize your OC - no matter what the BSOD code. Then if that don't work you can try other adjustments.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 08:54:16
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I haven't gotten the 1E at all after the first time I got it. I have been getting 3B and now 124. Are the settings I only touch named 'CPU VCore' and 'CPU PLL Voltage'? Or should I adjust 'CPU PLL VCore', 'IOH PLL VCore', and 'QPI PLL VCore' also?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 09:00:11
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Hmm, 3b is listed as "too much VTT," when it was set +200 (even though it was "auto"), then you lowered VTT to +0, then you got 124 which is listed as 'need more Vcore or VTT.' Hmm. Well as I said bfr, first try adding Vcore and if that don't work the 124 would mean try adding VTT: Try +50 VTT, then +100 if 50 doesn't appease it, then +150 if +100 doesn't work. You shouldn't need +200 since that resulted in 3b. A secondary goal here is to keep VTT as low as possible for your OC state. Higher VTT means higher temps and sometimes more stress on the CPU IMC. +150 is pretty common in this forum for a medium OC. GL.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 09:14:07
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Ok thanks I will do this stuff now to fix that 124 so that I can get that 32 X test positive.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 09:42:26
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"try raising Vcore about 0.05V before you back Vcore down and then try raising VTT by +50mV increments." Why do I need to back VCore down after raising it So you trying to say it's VCore or VTT that needs to be raised and I can't have both raised at the same time at any given time? And the VCore is far from it's highest setting should it be .025 or .05 each time?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
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Steph1 "try raising Vcore about 0.05V before you back Vcore down and then try raising VTT by +50mV increments." Why do I need to back VCore down after raising it So you trying to say it's VCore or VTT that needs to be raised and I can't have both raised at the same time at any given time? And the VCore is far from it's highest setting should it be .025 or .05 each time? Because you don't want to raise either unnecessarily. You want to achieve the minimum voltages, raising Vcore first; it's more important to keep VTT down than to keep Vcore down. You will prob have to raise Vcore more anyway on the next multiplier step. You may not have to raise VTT at that point. When I said that above, after you tried raising Vcore and it didn't work ( IF that's what happens), there is no point in keeping it that high, so you drop it back down.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 10:13:57
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Oh ok and since the VCore is far from it's highest setting should I increase it by .025 or .05 each time?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 10:24:17
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Steph1 Oh ok and since the VCore is far from it's highest setting should I increase it by .025 or .05 each time? Well it's not so much about Vcore being far from it's highest setting, it's about your temps near your max acceptable temp. You should never get near the max Vcore setting, the max WILL destroy your CPU, it is not safe. They give you that option for those cooling their CPU with liquid nitrogen to -320*F (-196*C), so they can achieve an extraordinary CPU speed; and it still produces a very good chance of ruining the CPU. So the answer is it depends on how close to 90C you are. In other words, go .05 until you reach into the 80s.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 10:37:25
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Ok I failed this test at 32 X with 71 74 68 69 72 72 VREG 45 [With VCore of 1.32500] and in red it said: Stopped upon error after 48 min. Since this isn't a 124 Error what should I do? Should I continue adding .05 and try the test again?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 12:05:21
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Steph1 Ok I failed this test at 32 X with 71 74 68 69 72 72 VREG 45 [With VCore of 1.32500] and in red it said: Stopped upon error after 48 min. Since this isn't a 124 Error what should I do? Should I continue adding .05 and try the test again? Yes. BSOD, lockup, or stopped on error, it doesn't matter; the procedure for all is the same. You are in the middle of your OCing procedure. This is what it is like. This is how it's done. No need to ask about every tiny step, just the big ones. You should be getting the hang of it soon - until conditions change a little. Just keep repeating the procedure.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 12:35:45
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 12:45:11
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BTW your temps are nice for your settings. Is is very cool in the room? What part of the world do you live in? Is it the cool season there? Does it get hotter in the room in a different season?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 14:07:36
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The room is average. I live in Florida. :p Here is the 32 X: 77 81 73 76 78 79 VREG 47 Passed (To make this one pass I had to apply .050 twice) Now that one of them has reached 80, you said to start doing .025?
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 14:12:31
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Nah, I'd go .05 until 83. That's probably just one or two steps away. Florida huh? Well there's something else to think about now. Does it ever get hotter in the room, like days without AC? If so, you might not want to go much farther. You see, for every 1C increase in room temperature, you get a 1C increase in core temp. That's roughly 1C per 2F, exactly it is 5C per 9F. So ponder that. Decide just how hot you want to go. The thing is, unless you are folding, you won't ever make such extreme high temps like LinX does. But you could get somewhat close sometimes when you aren't expecting it, like when encoding video. So it's not like it is a well-defined ceiling. It is your call.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 14:24:19
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We have the AC on everyday but it turns off by itself and on. I guess 32 can be my max I should go you have a point since it's Florida. :p
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 14:28:36
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I should also mention (other than what I just said in my recently edited post above) that your CPU has a failsafe. It automatically downclocks (that multiplier you are adjusting) when it reaches the max temp, 100C. This prevents damage, although it should theoretically shorten the lifetime a little. So that makes the ceiling even more vague. If it were me, I think I would stop at 85. You already have a good decent OC, no need to push it for a few percentage integers.
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Re:Help on how to overclock this please someone (EVGA X58 Classified 3 Motherboard)
2011/07/09 14:30:27
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Steph1 We have the AC on everyday but it turns off by itself and on. I guess 32 can be my max I should go you have a point since it's Florida. :p Oh, very well, sounds wise. So are you considering registering for the club?
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