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A headteachers group has threatened to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games to the police and social services for neglect.
Nantwich Education Partnership, a group of 14 primary and two secondary schools in Cheshire, wrote to parents last month after finding some children had been playing the likes of Grand Theft Auto, Gears of War and Call of Duty.
"If your child is allowed to have inappropriate access to any game or associated product that is designated 18+, we are advised to contact the police and children's social care as this is deemed neglectful," the letter read.
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That is unacceptable for any school to threaten parents with. The police won't be able to do a damn thing and social services can go fly a kite.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/03/30 15:49:08
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My first question would be, how would they know who was playing what and who let them?
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/02 14:58:35
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Disagree with this for the exact opposite reasons...
TEACHERS SHOULD BE TEACHING NOT RAISING KIDS... as a previous teacher I got tired of "Stop talking Johnny", "Stop picking your nose", "Stop punching Susie", "Stop with the love letters" etc.
Schools need to change drastically in America, and it starts at home. Parents need to start playing an active role, instead of letting the Public/Private school systems raise the kids. Not our job! This is the exclusive reason why I left!
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/02 18:23:34
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It's up to the parents what they allow their kids do at home.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/02 20:52:26
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It's up to the parents what they allow their kids do at home.
Well, not really. That statement assumes that they are fit parents. There are legal and social boundaries. I have to say that I am on the teacher's side as far as this subject is concerned. If the kids are being disruptive enough for the teachers to take notice, there is most likely an issue at home. The kids must be acting out enough for the teachers to know which games they are playing. That topic shouldn't come up in normal discussion in education.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/02 21:39:42
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It's up to the parents what they allow their kids do at home.
Well, not really. That statement assumes that they are fit parents. There are legal and social boundaries.
I have to say that I am on the teacher's side as far as this subject is concerned. If the kids are being disruptive enough for the teachers to take notice, there is most likely an issue at home. The kids must be acting out enough for the teachers to know which games they are playing. That topic shouldn't come up in normal discussion in education.
Frankly, if it's not happening on school grounds and is not putting the student in immediate peril, it's none of the teacher's business.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/02 23:08:30
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A fit parent? Is that anything like current day adult, being an adult? My point, good parenting is relative. And schools, teacher or anyone has no right telling a parent how to handle their kids.
Inmy opinion, this is why we have irresponsible kids these days, because more and more rules don't allow parents to be real parents, and this repeats in the next generation and so on.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/02 23:13:35
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Isn't the rating just a opinion/recommendation by a useless meddling organization and not a law?!? So report away rubes!!!!
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 06:51:34
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Isn't the rating just a opinion/recommendation by a useless meddling organization and not a law?!? So report away rubes!!!!
PEGI: "It is important to note that the age ratings 12, 16 and 18 age ratings are mandatory and that it is illegal for a retailer to supply any game with any of these ratings to anyone below the specified age." If the parents are offloading their responsibilities on the teachers, teachers should do their part and report issues if they become significant. Teachers shouldn't have to raise the children and in some cases, this becomes appropriate. Like I said, these kids must be showing significant warning signs and the teachers must be spending an excessive amount of time coaching these children; otherwise this sort of topic would never come up during education.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 07:02:41
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It's simple. If the child is being disruptive, he needs to be sent home. What they are stating above can't even be enforced and will probably leave them open for litigation if they act on it. Disruptive kids should just be sent home. Let it be the parents problem, not the teachers/schools. Bring back discipline. That will get kids and parents back in line.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 11:16:59
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yea I played Doom in 1st grade, I played Duke 3d in 4th grade, and I can guarantee you I spent most of 6th grade playing Half Life. The problem isn't the games, its that when your kid is acting up you can't make it uncomfortable to sit, its that kids aren't allowed to go outside and ride their bikes around the neighborhood because every strange is a pedo, and its illegal for anyone under 12 to be unsupervised for 10 seconds.
If people want kids to behave in class, and at home let them be kids. I sure as heck didn't spend all of my time at home, well except during 6th grade, but well half life. I spent a lot of time outside, I had friends I'd walk to their house, and then we'd jump on our bikes and go find something fun to do. Heck I feel off a cliff when I was 8, about a good 20-25 foot drop onto a sandbar, I dusted myself off and rode my bike home at the end of the day, I didn't cry about it. Kid's arnt allowed to be kids thats the problem.
If society expects children to be inside until age 12, then they need to accept that video games and TV are all these kids have.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 13:58:30
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Nanny state of our country...
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 14:39:06
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Nanny state of our country...
Whose country? Read the article.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 15:16:18
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Maybe he's actually from the UK?
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 16:49:06
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Nanny state of our country...
Whose country? Read the article.
LOL, I just read the OP's post... Yeah, it is the UK, but it would not shock me if it were the U.S..
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 17:07:27
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Maybe he's actually from the UK?
I did some research by searching his profile on other websites first. ;)
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 20:28:44
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Maybe he's actually from the UK?
I did some research by searching his profile on other websites first. ;)
That's absurd... using the internet to search things? Pretty sure it was only invented for cat videos.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/03 21:20:26
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The term "headteachers" didn't clue you guys in?
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/05 18:31:45
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If parents aren't tech savvy, there's no stopping any tech savvy kid from getting what they want. We all know kids know how to use technology far before they can understand it now, children are capable of doing anything with a smart phone.
If a technology savvy person wants something, there's basically no way to really stop them with the internet and infinite resources.
Should a teacher be reporting this? Perhaps it could be brought up at a parent-teacher interview, but beyond that the teacher has no place or obligation to enforce or report this. Their customer is the parent, and the parent is responsible for recreation time.
I won't deny it, I grew up playing MA15+ games when I was young.
It was however harmless and supervised before I hit the teens, but graphic violence is completely different than it was then. Remember when Wolfenstein 3D and Doom were considered obscenely violent? Some games still even take me by surprise for graphic violence, but I know how to appreciate and filter it. It wasn't the first, and GTA 5 (for example) won't be the last to cause controversy. Dealing with this mentally is what matters most, and a parent is the biggest influence for mental development.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/05 18:41:24
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100% The Parents Choice and not one else, end of story.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/06 01:21:32
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Guys, if you aren't from the UK, apparently you have no say.... Cause this only applies to the UK...
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/06 11:07:55
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If parents aren't tech savvy, there's no stopping any tech savvy kid from getting what they want. We all know kids know how to use technology far before they can understand it now, children are capable of doing anything with a smart phone.
If a technology savvy person wants something, there's basically no way to really stop them with the internet and infinite resources.
Should a teacher be reporting this? Perhaps it could be brought up at a parent-teacher interview, but beyond that the teacher has no place or obligation to enforce or report this. Their customer is the parent, and the parent is responsible for recreation time.
I won't deny it, I grew up playing MA15+ games when I was young.
It was however harmless and supervised before I hit the teens, but graphic violence is completely different than it was then. Remember when Wolfenstein 3D and Doom were considered obscenely violent? Some games still even take me by surprise for graphic violence, but I know how to appreciate and filter it. It wasn't the first, and GTA 5 (for example) won't be the last to cause controversy. Dealing with this mentally is what matters most, and a parent is the biggest influence for mental development.
Studies show that violent video games are actually fine and won't make you into a killer... In fact it does the opposite for kids who are at risk...
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/06 13:01:28
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Guys, if you aren't from the UK, apparently you have no say.... Cause this only applies to the UK...
It makes no difference where in the World you live it is still 100% The Parents Choice. The subject could be anything still 100% The Parents Choice.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/06 13:10:48
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BF3PROStudies show that violent video games are actually fine and won't make you into a killer... In fact it does the opposite for kids who are at risk...
Indeed. You know what else "studys" show? http://www.washingtonpost...2/AR2008110202392.htmlbcavnaugh
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Guys, if you aren't from the UK, apparently you have no say.... Cause this only applies to the UK...
It makes no difference where in the World you live it is still 100% The Parents Choice.
The subject could be anything still 100% The Parents Choice.
Not when said country has a law against under age minors playing said games. That does, indeed, make ALL the difference. ...in the UK video games that depict "gross violence", "sexual activity" or "techniques likely to be useful in the commission of offences" must be classified under the British Board of Film Classification's (BBFC) film rating system under the Video Recordings Act of 1984. The Act provides that it is an offence to supply such a game to anyone below the age limit, punishable by a fine of up to £5000 or up to six months in prison.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/06 13:27:27
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Well then this post should not have been created it the first place.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/06 13:27:49
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It's up to the parents what they allow their kids do at home.
Well, not really. That statement assumes that they are fit parents. There are legal and social boundaries.
I have to say that I am on the teacher's side as far as this subject is concerned. If the kids are being disruptive enough for the teachers to take notice, there is most likely an issue at home. The kids must be acting out enough for the teachers to know which games they are playing. That topic shouldn't come up in normal discussion in education.
Frankly, if it's not happening on school grounds and is not putting the student in immediate peril, it's none of the teacher's business.
+1 to what Brad has said
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
2015/04/06 15:36:03
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It's up to the parents what they allow their kids do at home.
Well, not really. That statement assumes that they are fit parents. There are legal and social boundaries.
I have to say that I am on the teacher's side as far as this subject is concerned. If the kids are being disruptive enough for the teachers to take notice, there is most likely an issue at home. The kids must be acting out enough for the teachers to know which games they are playing. That topic shouldn't come up in normal discussion in education.
Frankly, if it's not happening on school grounds and is not putting the student in immediate peril, it's none of the teacher's business.
+1 to what Brad has said
May I ask again, how do the teachers know which games the kids are playing? The video games played at home shouldn't manifest themselves in the classroom, right? Apparently, the video games are manifesting themselves in the classroom for some children. That being the case, at what point does the problem no longer go un-noticed? I guess that sending the kids home if being disruptive is perhaps a better solution in the eyes of the parent, but what sort of message does that send to the child? At what point does it become welcomed truancy in the eyes of the child? I agree in most cases that it is none of the teacher's business, but I am giving the benefit of the doubt for what might be some of the worst disciplined and most poorly behaving children. Some children live in broken homes. Some children are not well supported and not very desirable in the eyes of one or both of their parents. In such circumstances, I think this is a perfectly fine method of affecting change for the benefit of the child; especially since it is perfectly valid legal leverage in that country.
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Re: Headteachers threaten to report parents who let their children play 18-rated games
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BF3PROStudies show that violent video games are actually fine and won't make you into a killer... In fact it does the opposite for kids who are at risk...
Indeed. You know what else "studys" show?
http://www.washingtonpost...2/AR2008110202392.html
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chrisdglong
Guys, if you aren't from the UK, apparently you have no say.... Cause this only applies to the UK...
It makes no difference where in the World you live it is still 100% The Parents Choice.
The subject could be anything still 100% The Parents Choice.
Not when said country has a law against under age minors playing said games. That does, indeed, make ALL the difference.
...in the UK video games that depict "gross violence", "sexual activity" or "techniques likely to be useful in the commission of offences" must be classified under the British Board of Film Classification's (BBFC) film rating system under the Video Recordings Act of 1984. The Act provides that it is an offence to supply such a game to anyone below the age limit, punishable by a fine of up to £5000 or up to six months in prison.
That is pretty ridiculous. I sure am glad the US hasn't gotten this bad yet.
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