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2015/02/04 15:52:48 (permalink)
So yea, i guess this just arrived today :P



 
Now, on to the unpacking. fits pretty snug inside the box.. would have liked to see some cardbord around the cooler like they did with the h110 (non i)

 
updated block design looks pretty cool

 
2 fans, usb cable for the intelligence (corsair link) and brackets + screws.

 
But how does it look in a rig you might ask?.. well.. i've taken pictures of that as well ofcause.


 
Here is some example colors of the RGB block: (yes i know it still has the protective plastic :) )

 
Performance ?.. i have a 4790k overclocked to 4.7 ghz with 1.22v, and it is after about 5 min of prime 95.. as you can see it started 03:24, and ended 03:28++...
I'm impressed with the new better performance..
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This is a picture BEFORE the washers i made out of cardboard. (And yes it says LOG because of the use of the new AVX prime 95 before i downloaded 26.5)..
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SO, These are the cardboard washers between the backplate and the motherboard. So the performance gain was about 10-13 degrees, which i'm VERY happy about, and it now does much better than my old H110...

 
Reason?.. this is before the washers.. and then we have this problem when the stud protrude the motherboard:
and this will result in the screw holding down the cooler, will buttom out before actually tightening the block completely
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/04 20:53:33 (permalink)
    Thanks for that! Can you run a small FFT bench on P95? I'd love to compare your temps to what I see with my H220X.

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 05:23:40 (permalink)
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    Thanks for that! Can you run a small FFT bench on P95? I'd love to compare your temps to what I see with my H220X.


    Original post is updated to include this info.
     
    post edited by IstBarP - 2015/02/05 18:44:57


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 05:43:21 (permalink)
    Nice. I have one coming in tomorrow from Corsair for a review, I will post my thoughts separately as well.
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 05:48:14 (permalink)
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    Nice. I have one coming in tomorrow from Corsair for a review, I will post my thoughts separately as well.

    Oh, nice.. so you do professional reviews? :).. then you have something to hold it up against?.. i mean i could kinda compare this to my h110, but i seem to get about the same temperatures.. :)


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 05:53:31 (permalink)
    Excellent post. Thanks for the info. 

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 06:02:35 (permalink)
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    Excellent post. Thanks for the info. 


    Thanks man, as i said in a post earlier, i'm not a reviewer, and i wish i had something to compare this to since i was one of the first people to actually mount it outside of corsair themselves. :)


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 08:21:36 (permalink)
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    Nice. I have one coming in tomorrow from Corsair for a review, I will post my thoughts separately as well.

    Oh, nice.. so you do professional reviews? :).. then you have something to hold it up against?.. i mean i could kinda compare this to my h110, but i seem to get about the same temperatures.. :)




    Haha I don't know about professional but here are all the CPU coolers I tested out so far: http://thermalbench.com/category/cpu-coolers/
     
    There's also the H100i whose write up is ongoing, so I imagine I can test out the H110i against these at the very minimum. It really needs a 280mm AIO for an apples to apples comparison but I figure I have to start somewhere.
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 09:07:21 (permalink)
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    Haha I don't know about professional but here are all the CPU coolers I tested out so far: http://thermalbench.com/category/cpu-coolers/
     
    There's also the H100i whose write up is ongoing, so I imagine I can test out the H110i against these at the very minimum. It really needs a 280mm AIO for an apples to apples comparison but I figure I have to start somewhere.

    I mean , it is quite professional, with a good camera and everything.. here i am with a nexus 5 as a camera :D


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 09:23:20 (permalink)
    I'm sure I could go look it up, but are those hoses braided flex or are they a shiny rubber w/ a faux braid dimpling pattern on them  ...??

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 09:30:04 (permalink)
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    I'm sure I could go look it up, but are those hoses braided flex or are they a shiny rubber w/ a faux braid dimpling pattern on them  ...??



    It feels and acts like braided flex, but might be shiny rubber with a very very tight braid on top.. i can't seem to move the braid around though..


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/05 17:42:06 (permalink)
    Excellent review and posts!
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 07:11:28 (permalink)
    What was the purpose of the cardboard shimming?

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 11:53:04 (permalink)
    Excellent! Thank you for adding that info.  

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 12:01:27 (permalink)
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    What was the purpose of the cardboard shimming?

    Because the Stud from the backplate goes above the motherboard like this:

     
    and after:
     

     
    mistermister
    Excellent! Thank you for adding that info.  



    No problems at all m8 :).. 


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 12:03:03 (permalink)
    Yeah I am curious about the cardboard myself, I didn't notice a bad mount necessarily with 3 motherboards/CPUs here so far but will try it out to see if it improves the mount. When you changed the mount, I assume you also changed the TIM? If so, what did you use? That may well have contributed to the improvement you saw along with a lot of other possibilities.
     
    Edit: I just saw your new post. All stubs protrude outwards from the motherboard, even with custom loop CPU blocks. The post length is compensated for it. Was the TIM spread actually bad for you with the way it was?
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 12:18:08 (permalink)
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    Yeah I am curious about the cardboard myself, I didn't notice a bad mount necessarily with 3 motherboards/CPUs here so far but will try it out to see if it improves the mount. When you changed the mount, I assume you also changed the TIM? If so, what did you use? That may well have contributed to the improvement you saw along with a lot of other possibilities.
     
    Edit: I just saw your new post. All stubs protrude outwards from the motherboard, even with custom loop CPU blocks. The post length is compensated for it. Was the TIM spread actually bad for you with the way it was?



    Hey, i removed the stock tim even before mounting it the first time.. and just updated the main post as well..
     
    the problem is, even when the screw was tightened down with a screwdriver, the block still had some give and i could move it around with light pressure..
    After, not so much.. i don't know if they made an error in the lenght of the thread/the inner length of the screw threading.. it has something to do with this.. 

    and yea, 12-13 degrees celcius is kinda speaking for itself .. .. i've mounted a lot of coolers, and yea, i could have made a mistake with the amount of thermal paste the first time, even though it looked decently spreaded. But then again, i did put pressure on the cooler itself and moved it around, so that could have spreaded the thermal paste more than the tightening it self did. 
     
    there is a fault in the mounting system somewhere.. and i called corsair to ask if they knew about it (free to call), and they had heard something about it , and it had to do with motherboards are not all the same thickness.. so i kinda asked them to put in a pair of rubber washers so that people could add them instead of getting all this.. 

    But as you can see. people with the h100i has the same problem, and same result as me.. 
    http://forum.corsair.com/...54629&postcount=26


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 12:42:39 (permalink)
    Yeah I had heard about this before. I have 2 Asus boards and one Gigabyte board here, and both the H100i and the H110i GT were completely fine. This is what's puzzling me!

    To add to the confusion, the Swiftech AIOs use an identically made backplate and they worked great for everyone so far.

    I don't suppose I could trouble you to take pics of the TIM spread with and without the cardboard shims? I will be sure to credit your efforts accordingly and I feel it would help me and the readers understand what to do if they face a similar situation. If not, I completely understand of course :)
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 13:12:59 (permalink)
    vsg28
    Yeah I had heard about this before. I have 2 Asus boards and one Gigabyte board here, and both the H100i and the H110i GT were completely fine. This is what's puzzling me!

    To add to the confusion, the Swiftech AIOs use an identically made backplate and they worked great for everyone so far.

    I don't suppose I could trouble you to take pics of the TIM spread with and without the cardboard shims? I will be sure to credit your efforts accordingly and I feel it would help me and the readers understand what to do if they face a similar situation. If not, I completely understand of course :)


    I wish i had enough thermal paste to do this.. plus a test rig so i could do it faster :P.. 

    But yea, i mean, i did manage to find something like this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1482988/should-i-really-add-extra-washers-to-the-corsair-h100i-back-plate-to-make-it-fit-more-snug#post_22125365

    And other people were seeing this before the washers.:



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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 13:41:49 (permalink)
    Lol I wouldn't really consider the OP of that OCN thread seriously, I have had more than my share of experience with him.
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 13:52:36 (permalink)
    hmmm i guess its a problem with the 110i GT for the reason why your using cardboard, no other coolers have that problem, weired, plus I am using my h105 directly mounted to the die its self I have no IHS on my 4790k :)

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 14:27:45 (permalink)
    vsg28
    Lol I wouldn't really consider the OP of that OCN thread seriously, I have had more than my share of experience with him.

    I mean the picture didn't come from that thread, and it was more post #3 in the thread not the OP :).. but yea, still it is a problem with the "intelligent" series of coolers.. 



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    hmmm i guess its a problem with the 110i GT for the reason why your using cardboard, no other coolers have that problem, weired, plus I am using my h105 directly mounted to the die its self I have no IHS on my 4790k :)


    No other coolers?

    Look up H80i and the h100i and the term washers  on google ;).. you'll find PLENTY.. this is NOT specifically to the h110i GT

    But yea, the h105 specifically doesn't have the problem.. In general all the coolers designed by asetek doesn't because they use a COMPLETELY different mounting system.. (in general all the round block coolers are designed by asetek).
    post edited by IstBarP - 2015/02/07 14:31:57


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 14:34:57 (permalink)
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    Lol I wouldn't really consider the OP of that OCN thread seriously, I have had more than my share of experience with him.

    I mean the picture didn't come from that thread, and it was more post #3 in the thread not the OP :).. but yea, still it is a problem with the "intelligent" series of coolers.. 



    WarGasimXDi
    hmmm i guess its a problem with the 110i GT for the reason why your using cardboard, no other coolers have that problem, weired, plus I am using my h105 directly mounted to the die its self I have no IHS on my 4790k :)


    No other coolers?

    Look up H80i and the h100i and the term washers  on google ;).. you'll find PLENTY.. this is NOT specifically to the h110i GT

    But yea, the h105 specifically doesn't have the problem.. In general all the coolers designed by asetek doesn't because they use a COMPLETELY different mounting system.. (in general all the round block coolers are designed by asetek).




    10-4 did not know that, I will be sticking with my h105 for a while then, lol. Plus it actually out performs the h110

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/07 14:38:31 (permalink)
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    10-4 did not know that, I will be sticking with my h105 for a while then, lol. Plus it actually out performs the h110

     
    I'm not going to belittle the h105 here, but it seems you have the wrong information sir.
     
    I would go check that again.. like guru3d or any other trustworthy site.. like here:
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/corsair-h105-review,12.html

     
    overclocked at 100% load..


     
    The h110 has a bigger radiator and therefore bigger surface area.. even corsair says it's their best cooler yet (up until the h110i GT ofcause)
    But other than that, yea the h105 is okay, not bad at all, and no reason to upgrade since the h110 or the h110i is only a few degrees better than the h105.. 
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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/09 14:24:06 (permalink)
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    10-4 did not know that, I will be sticking with my h105 for a while then, lol. Plus it actually out performs the h110

     
    I'm not going to belittle the h105 here, but it seems you have the wrong information sir.
     
    I would go check that again.. like guru3d or any other trustworthy site.. like here:
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/corsair-h105-review,12.html

     
    overclocked at 100% load..


     
     
     
    The h110 has a bigger radiator and therefore bigger surface area.. even corsair says it's their best cooler yet (up until the h110i GT ofcause)
    But other than that, yea the h105 is okay, not bad at all, and no reason to upgrade since the h110 or the h110i is only a few degrees better than the h105.. 




     
    I'm going by my own experience, those benchmarks you posted, are no were near what I get with my H105 when stressing with prime, my idle temps 4790k @ 4.7 OC are 18-20c under prime its only hits 72c max, so I stand by my recent post :)

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/10 01:05:18 (permalink)
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    I'm going by my own experience, those benchmarks you posted, are no were near what I get with my H105 when stressing with prime, my idle temps 4790k @ 4.7 OC are 18-20c under prime its only hits 72c max, so I stand by my recent post :)

    Yea and at 4.7 ghz with my 4790k i'm at 68 max after 20 min of prime.. SO h110 is better.. :).. not only that, but how can you say you go with your experience when you have none when it comes to the h110 and your chip is completely different to the 3770k in the benchmark  The 3770k in the benchmark results, and the 4790k  you have is a COMPLETELY different chips with different thermals + different thermal interface material 

    Anyways.. ALL the benchmarks i've seen (and i've seen A LOT when i researched the h110) said the h110 was better than the h105.. don't you think a few of them would have cought it if the h105 was better?.. The H105 even has problems outtaking the h100i in a LOT of the benchmarks..

    Anyways.. i'm done discussing.. go read up on it on ANY thrustworthy site and PM me if you find something interesting..
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    Back to the h110i performance.. after my delid my temps are great so far tho, i only got like 1-2 degrees better temps.. I've just ordered some coolaboratory liquid ultra, so i'll look forward to it getting here  So yea this is going to be good 


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/10 02:42:53 (permalink)
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    I'm going by my own experience, those benchmarks you posted, are no were near what I get with my H105 when stressing with prime, my idle temps 4790k @ 4.7 OC are 18-20c under prime its only hits 72c max, so I stand by my recent post :)

    Yea and at 4.7 ghz with my 4790k i'm at 68 max after 20 min of prime.. SO h110 is better.. :).. not only that, but how can you say you go with your experience when you have none when it comes to the h110 and your chip is completely different to the 3770k in the benchmark  The 3770k in the benchmark results, and the 4790k  you have is a COMPLETELY different chips with different thermals + different thermal interface material 

    Anyways.. ALL the benchmarks i've seen (and i've seen A LOT when i researched the h110) said the h110 was better than the h105.. don't you think a few of them would have cought it if the h105 was better?.. The H105 even has problems outtaking the h100i in a LOT of the benchmarks..

    Anyways.. i'm done discussing.. go read up on it on ANY thrustworthy site and PM me if you find something interesting..
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    Back to the h110i performance.. after my delid my temps are great so far tho, i only got like 1-2 degrees better temps.. I've just ordered some coolaboratory liquid ultra, so i'll look forward to it getting here  So yea this is going to be good 




    I can, I had the 3770k and the H110. I also had the 4770k delided as well. If you look in the for sale section you can see I sold both them here. So before you open your mouth and tell me I dont have experience with that chip or cooler, maybe you should have asked :)

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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/10 02:48:54 (permalink)
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    I can, I had the 3770k and the H110. I also had the 4770k delided as well. If you look in the for sale section you can see I sold both them here. So before you open your mouth and tell me I dont have experience with that chip or cooler, maybe you should have asked :)


    Anyways.. you must have done something wrong.. because, everyone BESIDE you has better temps with the h110 :).. But maybe, instead of being so defensive towards the h105 because you bought it, and look up reviews so before you post that the h105 is better than the h110 :).. 

    But as I said.. I even said earlier in this thread that the h105 is not that much worse.. and it's not worth it to upgrade from the h105.. 

    But go look at reviews.. 

    EDIT: Plus if you are hitting 72 degrees with direct on the die cooling, and i'm only hitting 68 with the heatspreader still on mine. The IHS is easily a few degrees on top, so you can go figure :) ..


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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/10 03:04:23 (permalink)
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    WarGasimXDi
     
    I can, I had the 3770k and the H110. I also had the 4770k delided as well. If you look in the for sale section you can see I sold both them here. So before you open your mouth and tell me I dont have experience with that chip or cooler, maybe you should have asked :)


    Anyways.. you must have done something wrong.. because, everyone BESIDE you has better temps with the h110 :).. But maybe, instead of being so defensive towards the h105 because you bought it, and look up reviews so before you post that the h105 is better than the h110 :).. 

    But as I said.. I even said earlier in this thread that the h105 is not that much worse.. and it's not worth it to upgrade from the h105.. 

    But go look at reviews.. 

    EDIT: Plus if you are hitting 72 degrees with direct on the die cooling, and i'm only hitting 68 with the heatspreader still on mine. The IHS is easily a few degrees on top, so you can go figure :) ..






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    Re: H110i Unboxing + performance on 4790k 2015/02/10 03:15:29 (permalink)
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    To-shay :) by the way good morning, lol I'm off to drink some coffee now



    Good morning man .. It's noon here in Denmark ..

    I'm sooo looking forward to the CLU comes my way.. then it's time to aim for that 5 ghz! 
     
    I hate the Corsair Link software tho.. it's very bad, doesn't report the correct temps, and ****s up my ROG Front base so that it shows 0 rpms on the fans.. So, after setting LED in the block to what i wanted, i removed corsair link from startup processes 
     
    Edit: sorry if the earlier posts were a little aggressive, it wasn't my intention.  You do also run at a higher voltage than me.. I run at 1.22v for 4.7 ghz stable :)
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