Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 18:08:03
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emmett expedision I don't know how people are posting Bios templates with out knowing it's stable or am i missing something here. I also read Prime does not use 6c/12t when running the Blend test, but the small FFT'S test would. I just want to make sure that the oc i am running is stable. I can get this cpu up to 4.6Ghz Linx stable and still stay under 85*c and it almost seems to good to be true. Running prime blend now, all 12 threads 100% They all show they are using 12 threads 100% thats my problem . Did you miss this "Prime does not use 6c/12t when running the Blend test, but the small FFT'S test would"
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 21:05:19
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I am having to use OCCT to test stability. And I am having problems with CPU test 2 in Vantage The hang has been cured with the new version but not the very low scores.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 23:24:41
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Expedision, sorry, misunderstood. Still trying to tweak mine.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 02:51:10
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iride4u I am having to use OCCT to test stability. And I am having problems with CPU test 2 in Vantage The hang has been cured with the new version but not the very low scores. I have not tried OCCT yet. How are you setting it up for testing? Did your 975 score more with CPU test 2? I checked and scored 222.82 but have know idea if thats good or bad.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 02:57:27
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emmett Expedision, sorry, misunderstood. Still trying to tweak mine. Emmett...Would you try running the small ftt's in Prime and let us know if your temps go up. Now i am with CKY2K and do not trust Linx anymore until they update it.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 03:13:18
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I just read a few places that running small ftt's draws more power from the wall and creates more heat than LinX (opposite of the 920's). I just tried OCCTPT3.1.0 on a stock 980X and still LinX 8 threads creates more heat. I never really tried OCCT so I might not have the right setting. It seems LinPack might be the problem, IBT gives the same results as LinX  . Tonight, I going to put A batch back in ( I know that chip a little better) and use the cheezy Kill-A-Watt and see what happens.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 03:40:02
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Cky2k.... Have you found that Prime blend is the best way at the moment to test for stability or the 8 threads in Linx.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 03:48:51
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CKy2k, you seeing any improvement over the A0 stepping from you perpective?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 03:55:43
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Ok expedision. I lowered Vtt to +0 and timings to 6-6-6-19 1.55 vdimm Small fft's prime 95 and my temps were up 6c across the board. and failed after about 45 mins. emmett. gonna restest at original vtt and vdimm...
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 05:18:45
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emmett Ok expedision. I lowered Vtt to +0 and timings to 6-6-6-19 1.55 vdimm Small fft's prime 95 and my temps were up 6c across the board. and failed after about 45 mins. emmett. gonna restest at original vtt and vdimm... Any luck yet and did you have to raise Vcore?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 05:48:46
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Seems like these chips LOVE v-core, unless you get sub zero. Every time mine failed, more v-core cured it. Also did not notice any huge temp difference either.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 06:44:35
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Before I even think of buying a Gulftown, I have a question. Does it run cooler or hotter at similar overclocks has a 45nm i7?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 06:51:07
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ultimate4444 Before I even think of buying a Gulftown, I have a question. Does it run cooler or hotter at similar overclocks has a 45nm i7? I can run up to 4.6Ghz on air and stay below 80*c if you believe Linx.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 07:26:31
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good thread, very helpful
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 07:32:10
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I am running at 4.5 in OCCT and seeing temps in the high 40s on water with the 975 it would have been in the high70s
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 08:06:23
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iride4u I am running at 4.5 in OCCT and seeing temps in the high 40s on water with the 975 it would have been in the high70s Do you think that the 980x just run that much cooler. If they do, this cpu is worth every penny.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 08:33:20
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iride4u I am running at 4.5 in OCCT and seeing temps in the high 40s on water with the 975 it would have been in the high70s
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 10:09:55
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Reinstalling the OS has solved the PhysX problems in Vatage
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 10:36:01
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ultimate4444 Before I even think of buying a Gulftown, I have a question. Does it run cooler or hotter at similar overclocks has a 45nm i7? Oh absolutely. I'm sitting at 21 degrees right now @ 4.5GHz, with Speedstep disabled.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 11:29:27
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 I'm at 5ghz on the same temp I use to be at 4ghz with my 965 XE
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 13:50:18
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I only had time to do a 30 minute test this morning, and yes I had to raise vcore a little. I set it at 1.418 in bios, and it shows 1.435 under load. temps up 5-6c from linx.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 14:04:06
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firerx I'm at 5ghz on the same temp I use to be at 4ghz with my 965 XE Are you running that 5.1GHz 24/7 bro?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 15:00:59
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Good stuff here gents, mine is on back-order
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 15:31:56
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emmett I only had time to do a 30 minute test this morning, and yes I had to raise vcore a little. I set it at 1.418 in bios, and it shows 1.435 under load. temps up 5-6c from linx. Thanks for proving my point! Linx does not stress the 980x like it should. Prime small FFT's Test should be used for stabity testing until Linx is fixed.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/26 20:27:35
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I don't know if this useful. I don't think so, it's a little interesting. What I used: Linx 0.6.4, Intel Burn Test 2.4, OCCT 3.1.0, Prime 25.9, Cinebench 11.5, 3DMark Vantage 102_1901 and CPU Torch .05. Every program had the CPU and all 12 threads at 100% except LinX and IBT when set at 8 threads, CPU was at 67%. Watts readings was taking from a Kill-A-Watt P3 This was with a 980X B batch at stock setting (my CPU-Z screen shot is in this thread at post# 87) The hardware used is my sig ( that CPU at 4.6GHz, an ES A0 Gulftown is dead. R.I.P.). Just the computer was plug into the Kill-A-Watt. Vantage I could not run the second CPU test. CPU Torch uses LinX and Prime together. It was using Prime 25.8 and I could not set the threads for LinX and not sure on what version. All tests were run in the order I'm posting them. No reboots and the room temp was 24c. The temps are the highest and lowest cores. 438W - 439W - Idle LinX 0.6.4 517W - 521W - LinX - 5 runs - 12 Threads - 4788 memory - 41GFlops - Temps 38c-44c 529W - 531W - LinX - 5 runs - 12 Threads - 2048 memory - 53GFlops - Temps 41c-47c 514W - 517W - LinX - 5 runs - 8 Threads - 4788 memory - 50GFlops - Temps 38c-45c 527W - 530W - LinX - 5 runs - 8 Threads - 2048 memory - 69GFlops - Temps 42c-49c Intel Burn Test 2.4 514W - 517W - IBT - 5 runs - 12 Threads - 5333 memory - 41GFlops - Temps 39c-46c 523W - 526W - IBT - 5 runs - 12 Threads - 2048 memory - 51GFlops - Temps 37c-46c 526W - 527W - IBT - 5 runs - 8 Threads - 2048 memory - 68GFlops - Temps 41c-49c 528W - 530W - IBT - 5 runs - 8 Threads - 5333 memory - 70GFlops - Temps 41c-50c OCCT 3.1.0 528W - 529W - OCCT CPU - 6 mins - Small - High - Temps 38c-46c 537W - 538W - OCCT CPU - 6 mins - Med - High - Temps 36c-43c 509W - 511W - OCCT CPU - 6 mins - Large - High - Temps 35c-42c 536W - 538W - OCCT LinPack - 6 mins - Low/25% - Temps 41c-49c 537W - 538W - OCCT LinPack - 6 mins - Med/50% - Temps 40c-47c 538W - 540W - OCCT LinPack - 6 mins - High/90% - Temps 41c-49c Prime 25.9 (each ran about 15mins.) 522W - 524W - Prime - Small - Temps 41c-48c 524W - 530W - Prime - Large - Temps 39c-45c 507W - 511W - (test1) - Prime - Blend - Temps 41c-48c 523W - 525W - (test2) 509W - 516W - (test3) 522W - 526W - (test4) 509W - 511W - (test5) 3DMark Vantage 102_1901 542W - CPU Test 1 - Score 4515.50 - Temps 37c-43c Cinebench 11.5 508W - 542W - CPU Test - Score 8.83 CPU Torch .05 536W - 542W - LinX 90% memory - Prime small - 62GFlops - Temps 42c-50c IMO: I still think the idle temps are not correct (way low). I've tried three 980X's an AO, A batch and B batch on a 762 and a 759 with BIOS 49. My idle temps with the 3 CPU's (on air) were all about the same. Between the cores, they are 18c to 26c with room temp of 24c.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/27 00:14:11
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I think this will be beneficial both to those who already have this processor, and those who will shortly be purchasing it. As usual, overclock at your own risk. Thanks all! Mother Board ( EVGA X58 Classified 759) Drivers ( 9.1.1.1025) Bios ( S649) CPU ( Intel i7-980X Water) CPU Cooler ( Heatkiller 3.0) Memory ( 6GB Corsair 8-8-8-24 DDR3 2000) PSU ( Coolermaster 1250+PC P&C710) GPU ( ATI Sapphire 5970) Drivers ( 10.3) Operating System ( Windows 7 64-bit Professional) Frequency Control CPU Clock Ratio ( 35x) CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 135) MCH Strap ( auto) CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto) CPU Clock Skew ( disabled) Spread Spectrum ( disabled) PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100) If using SSDs, Check with your SSD manufacturer before raising above 100. Memory Feature Memory Speed ( Standard) Memory Control Setting ( Enabled) Memory Frequency ( 1346MHz/2:10) Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 way) Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 way) Memory Low Gap ( 3G) tCL Setting (6 ) tRCD Setting (7) tRP Setting (6) tRAS Setting (19) tRFC Setting (59) Command Rate (1T) Voltage Control EVGA VDroop Control (Without Vdroop) CPU VCore (1.45) CPU VTT Voltage (+100) CPU PLL VCore (Auto 1.80) **IOH PLL VCore (Auto 1.80) DIMM Voltage (1.66) DIMM DQ Vref (+0mV) QPI PLL VCore (1.200) IOH VCore (1.200) IOH/ICH I/O Voltage (auto) **BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( ) (only on E-759) **VTT PWM Frequency (370 KHz) **CPU PWM Frequency (940 KHz) **CPU Impedance (auto) **QPI Signal Compensation (auto) ICH VCore (1.200) *PWM Frequency ( ) CPU Feature Intel SpeedStep (Enabled) Turbo Mode Function (Enabled) CxE Function (C1E) Execute Disable Bit (Enabled) Virtualization Technology (Disabled) Intel HT Technology (Enabled) Active Processor Cores (All ) QPI Control Settings (Enabled) QPI Link Fast Mode (Enabled) QPI Frequency Selection (Auto) OC Recovery (Disabled) Turbo Performance (Disabled) PnP/PCI PCI Express Maximum Payload Size (4096) Power Management Setup ACPI Suspend Type (S1) HPET Support (Enabled) HPET Mode (32-bit) Got my unit today after alot of struggle, ended up with a Costa Rica 3003B331 batch--done a few hours of testing and tweeting upward to get used to the 980x. Currantly at 35x 135 for 4713.5mhz temps under load are running in the 50s or just touching 60 which is down considerably from what I was seeing with a my third and best 920 at around 4300mhz. The temps on these 980x are unbelievebly low, they are so low that I'm a little afraid to push the volts higher yet though the temps indicate that I could go quite a bit further. They seem to be voltage centric always generating a BS 101 or 'clock interval' as an error and with more volts up they go. Don't seem to like alot of VTT although I only did a little experimenting with higher BCLK to achieve 4mhz+ results. Going to some work for about 24 hours and then push it along some more. Good Luck to all
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/27 09:09:16
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expedision, Right now I'm thinking Prime Small FFT's is the best for stability testing for the 980X and then run some Prime blend. LinX 8 threads still pushes my highest temps. I am at 4.6GHz ( B batch). My temps with LinX 12 threads is about (highest core) 85c. When I set it at 8 threads, 3 cores are well over 100c. I'm not sure what the TJMax temps are and not sure how RealTemp gets the defaults for the TJMax. On an ES/AO and A batch the TJMax in RealTemp 3.58_1 is 105c. Now with this B batch the TJMax is 101c. firerx, I was thinking this B batch was going to be pretty good with a default setting of the vcore at 1.16V. At a vcore of 1.50V my temps are over 100C at 4.7GHz. I've only been OC'ing this chip for about an hour so I'm not totally sure about this one yet. One thing the characteristics of the B batch is right on with the I7's. The ES/A0 and the A batch are very weird. Like, how slow they are in the BIOS and freezing up in the BIOS, very slow boots, weird boots into windows, etc (with or without OC's).The B batch is like the way it should be (this just my experience). All those little quirks doesn't really matter to me just at least it's stable If I had to pick out of the 3, right now. I would go with the ES/AO chip. I wish I wasn't such a dumb a** and cooked it. I should be getting another ES/AO next week (I hope). Again, I haven't spent much time OC'ing with the B batch, so things might change. My goal is 6 hours of Small and Blend of Prime @ 4.6GHz with 12GB of ram on normal air cooling for 24/7 usge. I think I'm might have to lower goals  ... (More useless info  ) As for the wattage and OC's. At 4.6GHz with the same chip. Idle is 525W, must of the other tests shoot it up to 800W - 875W.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/27 09:21:26
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The idea of small FFTs is to fit neatly into the cache registers L2/L3 and would be more stressful for the cpu with load of heat being generated. Always good to run "Blend" for an extended period, at least a complete cycle or up to 12 hrs as I do to stress the IMC on the cpu. I've been using Prime 95 for years and it is the best overall stress test IMHO. Couple of notes: FYI, "You can control which FFT sizes are tested by the torture test. In prime.txt you can set: MinTortureFFT=n MaxTortureFFT=m Where n and m are in "K". The default for n and m is 8 and 1024 which will run tests on FFT sizes rom 8K to 1024K. Set n to 8 and m to 16 and you will run only small FFT sizes. These FFTs will fit in the L2 cache and may be more stressful to the CPU." You can control how many minutes each FFT size is tested by the torture test. In prime.txt set: TortureTime=n The default value is 15 minutes. "you can override the info in local.txt: NumCPUs=n CpuNumHyperthreads=1 or 2 CpuSpeed=s Where n is the number of physical CPUs or cores, not logical CPUs created by hyperthreading. Choose 1 for non-hyperthreaded and 2 for hyperthreaded. Finally, s is the speed in MHz." Finally, from the WiKi below, some good info on FFTs for your viewing pleasure (boy how I recall this from my collegiate days  ): http://en.wikipedia.org/w.i/Fast_Fourier_transform Mersenne Prime WiKi & forum links: http://mersennewiki.org/index.php/Main_Page http://mersenneforum.org/
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/27 09:29:55
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Governator The idea of small FFTs is to fit neatly into the cache registers L2/L3 and would be more stressful for the cpu with load of heat being generated. Always good to run "Blend" for an extended period, at least a complete cycle or up to 12 hrs as I do to stress the IMC on the cpu. I've been using Prime 95 for years and it is the best overall stress test IMHO. FYI, "you can override the info in local.txt: NumCPUs=n CpuNumHyperthreads=1 or 2 CpuSpeed=s Where n is the number of physical CPUs or cores, not logical CPUs created by hyperthreading. Choose 1 for non-hyperthreaded and 2 for hyperthreaded. Finally, s is the speed in MHz." Nice  , Thank you for that tip. EDIT: looks like a good read...TY
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
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Here is my 24/7.Ran linpack 10 passes on high good enough for me.Will give my max overlock in a couple days. Mother Board ( EVGA X58 Classified E-759 ) Drivers ( 197.13 ) Bios ( 49 ) CPU ( 980x ) batch 3003b331 CPU Cooler ( koolance cpu 360 ) Memory (6 gig tripple channel gskill perfect storm ) PSU ( ultra 1600w ) GPU ( GTX295+ X 2 ) Drivers ( 197.13 ) Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate ) Frequency Control CPU Clock Ratio ( 32X ) CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 143 ) MCH Strap ( Auto ) CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( auto ) CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps ) Spread Spectrum ( Disabled ) PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 ) If using SSDs, Check with your SSD manufacturer before raising above 100. Memory Feature Memory Speed ( Standard ) Memory Control Setting ( Enabled ) Memory Frequency ( 1866Mhz / 2:14 ) Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way ) Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way ) Memory Low Gap ( auto ) tCL Setting ( 7 ) tRCD Setting ( 8 ) tRP Setting ( 7 ) tRAS Setting ( 20 ) tRFC Setting ( 88 ) Command Rate ( 1t ) Voltage Control EVGA VDroop Control ( With VDroop ) CPU VCore ( 1.39 ) CPU VTT Voltage ( 1.44v ) CPU PLL VCore ( auto ) **IOH PLL VCore ( auto ) DIMM Voltage ( 1.66 ) DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV ) QPI PLL VCore ( auto ) IOH VCore ( Auto ) IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto ) **BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( auto ) (only on E-759) **VTT PWM Frequency ( auto ) **CPU PWM Frequency ( auto ) **CPU Impedance ( auto ) **QPI Signal Compensation ( auto ) ICH VCore ( Auto ) *PWM Frequency ( Not Used on Classified ) CPU Feature Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled ) Turbo Mode Function ( disabled ) CxE Function ( Disabled ) Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled ) Virtualization Technology ( Disabled ) Intel HT Technology ( Enabled ) Active Processor Cores ( All ) QPI Control Settings ( Enabled ) QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled ) QPI Frequency Selection ( 6.400 GT/s ) OC Recovery ( Disabled ) Turbo Performance ( Disabled ) PnP/PCI PCI Express Maximum Payload Size ( 4096 ) Power Management Setup ACPI Suspend Type ( S3 ) HPET Support ( Enabled ) HPET Mode ( 64-bit )
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Asus Sabertooth x99 5930k (4.5ghz) Zotac 980TI SLI 16gb Corsair DDR 4 (3000) Samsung 850 pro SSD 500gb EVGA 1000w G1 PSU 30 inch hplp3065 (2560x1600 )
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