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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 08:12:46
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kewl.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 08:15:25
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Yo, what are the volts on the v.core Thanks, Mack4033
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 08:16:52
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jdookie So, what are the "rules" with this new 980X? So far, I see that rule #1 should be to never go over 1.4 VTT. Any other guidelines we should follow? Maybe someone could start a list for a Sticky before people start overclocking in the same manner as they did with their 920's, and start frying their new cpus. Something I can add to this discussion is, my current cpu is an Extreme Edition 975 (was current, I actually sold it today to make way for the 980), and I have tested both overclocking methods (Bclk vs. multi) and I saw no difference between the two at the same clock speeds, yet overclocking with mostly multi resulted in a much easier to achieve overclock, and a more stable overclock that didn't affect the other areas of the system as with increasing Bclk to a high level (180+). Since high VTT is a bad idea with this cpu, I think I will be focusing my overclock on multi more than bclk which will only require a major increase on Vcore, for the most part, and will allow VTT to stay close to stock level. Yep, you got it right, Focus more on Multi , QPI combinations with vcore voltage adjustments. and you'll be happy
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 13:52:34
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For those of you that keep asking about the 980's voltage limits here is what Intel has posted.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 13:59:09
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Can we stop talking about VTT in terms of V, and instead with the + basis that is in the BIOS? Would make things a heck of a lot easier.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 14:13:58
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robotsociety9 For those of you that keep asking about the 980's voltage limits here is what Intel has posted. What Intel posts, and the "true" max are two different things. For instance, that table shows a Vcc max of 1.4, and there are people running 1.5+ for weeks now with no problems. sirjamesddj Can we stop talking about VTT in terms of V, and instead with the + basis that is in the BIOS? Would make things a heck of a lot easier. I agree, but don't various different motherboards and BIOS revisions have slightly different starting points for Vtt? At least when someone says 1.xV, there is no question what they mean.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 14:33:06
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jdookie robotsociety9 For those of you that keep asking about the 980's voltage limits here is what Intel has posted. What Intel posts, and the "true" max are two different things. For instance, that table shows a Vcc max of 1.4, and there are people running 1.5+ for weeks now with no problems. sirjamesddj Can we stop talking about VTT in terms of V, and instead with the + basis that is in the BIOS? Would make things a heck of a lot easier. I agree, but don't various different motherboards and BIOS revisions have slightly different starting points for Vtt? At least when someone says 1.xV, there is no question what they mean. Well said! Did you get your problem fixed?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 14:42:47
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jdookie I agree, but don't various different motherboards and BIOS revisions have slightly different starting points for Vtt? At least when someone says 1.xV, there is no question what they mean. +1 I wish they would change that in the BIOS instead of +50, +125 etc, I'm sure there is a reason for this, but for me it's a PIA. Just put volts.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 15:05:38
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expedision Well said! Did you get your problem fixed? I have no clue bro. Tiger emailed me back saying my initial order didn't qualify, so I cancelled it and re-ordered (again going through the Bing website), and even used paypal to pay for it this time, but everything still looked the same, so I called Tiger's customer service, and the agent said that he could see where I used a third party site to place the order, and that it should qualify for Bing, but couldn't tell me anything more. He just suggested waiting until the order gets fully processed and see if Bing gives me the cash back. If they don't he said that they have no problem contacting their Bing rep. to sort it out for me, so I guess I just need to sit back and wait.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 15:28:13
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jdookie sirjamesddj Can we stop talking about VTT in terms of V, and instead with the + basis that is in the BIOS? Would make things a heck of a lot easier. I agree, but don't various different motherboards and BIOS revisions have slightly different starting points for Vtt? At least when someone says 1.xV, there is no question what they mean. Okay. I could look it up, but you all seem to know and I'm busy enough. What's the conversion from VTT to V then?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 15:47:51
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Basically +300 is 1.4v on the VTT if that makes it easier for ya.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 15:55:46
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Rockin thanks Firerx. I asked with the danger of sounding uninformed, and in some ways I sure am. But I always figure that the dumbest question is the one never asked. Especially with a gr. chip on its way.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 16:22:17
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sirjamesddj Rockin thanks Firerx. I asked with the danger of sounding uninformed, and in some ways I sure am. But I always figure that the dumbest question is the one never asked. Especially with a gr. chip on its way. Hey bro, I hope you didn't take my comment as a flame because I certainly didn't intend it to be. It's just that +200, +250, +300 can get kind of confusing when everyone isn't talking about the same starting point, you know?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 16:32:28
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jdookie sirjamesddj Rockin thanks Firerx. I asked with the danger of sounding uninformed, and in some ways I sure am. But I always figure that the dumbest question is the one never asked. Especially with a gr. chip on its way. Hey bro, I hope you didn't take my comment as a flame because I certainly didn't intend it to be. It's just that +200, +250, +300 can get kind of confusing when everyone isn't talking about the same starting point, you know? Oh no, I was confused too until got the classified and learned the bios. I agree. the best tool I found to monitoring a actual voltage is Eleet. It makes is easy to see what the actual voltage you set in bios +/- 2-3 mv.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 17:11:56
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Keep talking I am learning... Thanks, Mack4033
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/21 17:26:44
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Not at all jdookie, you're a good guy. To 2nd CKY2K's point, it would be nice for a BIOS to just use V so we don't have to use conversion charts in order to not flambe our parts.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/22 18:47:31
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/23 17:11:23
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Has anyone verified VTT volts at +300? Also if you turn OFF VDROOP VTT INCREASES with CPU load! Careful as I was pushing over 1.4 at +125 at full load! Interestingly enough +25 is perfectly stable and I saw no more overclockability by jacking it higher. Another thing I see in everyone's template is QPI Frequency Selection of 6.4. If I have it at AUTO or 4.8GT/S the system is fine. Move it higher and I get a dreaded FF and have to do CMOS reset! This is a 762 board with a 980X btw. EDIT: The numbers +25 +50 etc. refer to millivolts or 1/1000 of a volt. Say the board defaults to 1.250V VTT with a setting of 0. If you change it to +100 that's 1/10 of a volt or 1.350V VTT.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 07:05:21
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 07:10:54
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 hmmm, I'm suprised anyone with this CPU would even have to approach +300 on the CPU VTT. you have a open Multiplier to balance out you voltage needs. Theirs no need to slam the QPI, and CPU VTT to get where you want to be.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 07:21:12
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firerx , I have looked around, and made some P.M.'s to EVGA about the over 1.4 vtt killing the 980's. No such problem I was told. Same rule applys as other i7's. I know you said that your friends fried theirs. Are they SURE it was from too much vtt?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 08:02:12
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Could one of you guys also running the 980X confirm something for me? I am going to make a seprate thread tonight showing my results. Could you please run Linx using 12 threads and only 2gb of ram for 10 passes and post your results.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 08:08:17
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You mean only 1 stick installed?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 08:17:20
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sgtharry You mean only 1 stick installed? Under ram usage instead of "all" choose 2048. The passes only take 40seconds.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 08:19:34
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Ahh, N.P. LOL. Why are you testing it like that anyways?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 08:28:54
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Ok ran Linx for 20 passes using a problem size of 25000(as always). It took 1.45Vcore to get stable. I read where Linx was not using 6c/12t with a problem size of 25000. So this is what i found using same Vcore and 2gb of ram selected. Notice the Vcore to get stable,the Temps and the Gflops. Ran it again with the new Vcore using a problem size of 25000. Thoughts?
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 15:42:15
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Here you go expedision  . I don't know if this will help you, all settings are at stock with a fresh B batch (just installed). Like I said before LinX and the 980X do not play nice. When running 8 threads in LinX the CPU is only pushing about 63%. I hate to say it, but I've been using errrrrrr Prime  . Has anyone running a stable 980X OC'ed for a few days. Then it's not stable anymore and it needs more vcore to be stable at the same OC it was before. 8 threads selected in LinX. 980X totally stock. 12 threads selected in LinX. 980X totally stock.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 16:02:56
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I don't know how people are posting Bios templates with out knowing it's stable or am i missing something here. I also read Prime does not use 6c/12t when running the Blend test, but the small FFT'S test would. I just want to make sure that the oc i am running is stable. I can get this cpu up to 4.6Ghz Linx stable and still stay under 85*c and it almost seems to good to be true.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 16:43:06
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I hear ya expedision, if people are posting BIOS templates (to show how far they made it) at least explain what method your using for stability testing (program and how long). IMO: Again, I'm not trusting LinX and that s**** because I really like LinX.
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Re:Gulftown 6-Core BIOS Template thread
2010/03/25 17:56:53
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expedision I don't know how people are posting Bios templates with out knowing it's stable or am i missing something here. I also read Prime does not use 6c/12t when running the Blend test, but the small FFT'S test would. I just want to make sure that the oc i am running is stable. I can get this cpu up to 4.6Ghz Linx stable and still stay under 85*c and it almost seems to good to be true. Running prime blend now, all 12 threads 100% Also ran linx 2048 and sure enough stopped at 3:19 odd. Emmett
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