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I can get 64 it, but a friend said it's stupid and pointless.
Wouldn't it be better to get a bigger PSU than a 500 for the future refernce?
Your friend is wrong, get the 64bit windows, YOU MUST run 64 bit O.S for anything more than 3.6GB of system memory to be used/ addressed .
Tell him to stop recommending things he clearly doesn't understand..
If your going Sli then your needs will be dictated by the cards you choose, i know thats vague , but its the truth...
Jump on that Cm600 I listed, you can always sell it later for what you pay.
$49 is an uber deal for a high quality brand name 600watt Psu!
That's weird, because he builds computers for a living and what not, but that's okay. Since I have 32 Bit, is that why it wont install? I don't know if I'll go SLI, but maybe down the road when I want to upgrade I might. I have a question reguarding the Rebate. It says the rebate expires on the 2nd. I wont even get the PSU before then, so I wont be able to use the rebate huh?
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If you need a new copy of win 7, get ome(cheaper) and also don't get ultimate. I find there is no need to pay the extra money for very few features. I have home premuim and pro on some computers and can't tell the diffrence. In my opinion, get home premuim, the cheapest. Also, if you ever build more computers in the future, you can use the sae disks as long as you don't loose the product key(I threw out the product key every time so I have bought win.7 almost 10 times lol).
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If you need a new copy of win 7, get ome(cheaper) and also don't get ultimate. I find there is no need to pay the extra money for very few features. I have home premuim and pro on some computers and can't tell the diffrence. In my opinion, get home premuim, the cheapest. Also, if you ever build more computers in the future, you can use the sae disks as long as you don't loose the product key(I threw out the product key every time so I have bought win.7 almost 10 times lol).
Yeah I do need a copy, but I wont be able to get one for a long time. haha I don't build computers, but I re-do a lot of computers. I always keep my product key, I have my XP one taped to the case. haha So since I don't have 64bit, it will not allow me to install 32 bit? I thought I was able to install 32bit, but it just wont read the full 4GB's of ram/memory?
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I believe you will get the rebate if you PURCHASE the item before that date, not send it in before that date.
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I can get 64 it, but a friend said it's stupid and pointless.
Wouldn't it be better to get a bigger PSU than a 500 for the future refernce?
Your friend is wrong, get the 64bit windows, YOU MUST run 64 bit O.S for anything more than 3.6GB of system memory to be used/ addressed .
Tell him to stop recommending things he clearly doesn't understand..
If your going Sli then your needs will be dictated by the cards you choose, i know thats vague , but its the truth...
Jump on that Cm600 I listed, you can always sell it later for what you pay.
$49 is an uber deal for a high quality brand name 600watt Psu!
That's weird, because he builds computers for a living and what not, but that's okay. Since I have 32 Bit, is that why it wont install?
I don't know if I'll go SLI, but maybe down the road when I want to upgrade I might.
I have a question reguarding the Rebate. It says the rebate expires on the 2nd. I wont even get the PSU before then, so I wont be able to use the rebate huh?
Some people build computers, we here we build Rigs!
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If you look in to the power supply you are planning to buy they normally say if they are SLI capable, it is that they will have enough connections for at least 2 cards. I think you are being wise in not going SLI straight away that is what is great about it, just get one good card now, be happy then a while down the road when the games are suffering of your wallet is particularly flush one month then get another. Can anyone confirm his mobo does SLI? +1 on 64bit, it is most certainly not stupid or pointless, it is more stable, secure and of the ability to see all the RAM. a 580 would be great and you certainly wouldnt have to worry about upgrading for a long time. Also as for your friend and his information, dont just trust what people say, do your own research as well. This goes for us on here as well. It is always good to do your own research as well, that way you can back up information and get fact not just opinions. That way you will learn and eventually be the one giving the advice.
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That may be true but the one time I installed win 7 32 bit was on my apple(parralels) it only recognized 3.6 out of 4 gigs but it worked. Might be a falty disk? Keep trying to install. One time it might work!
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john2571 - Yeah I need to find out for sure, otherwise I'm not going to do it. Because I'm still mind stuck on getting an 850, since it would be better for the future. Right? It's not like I need anything RIGHT this minute. Besides getting it up and running. haha That's just weird. The disc can't be faulty, because I use it all the time. I'm 101% positive if I nuke this computer or my laptop that it will work just fine. I just re-did 3 other computers the other day. Only one had a problem, that was because of the BIOS, I had to turn off something and change it to ATA I believe, then it worked fine. I tried to install it like 4 times, but didn't work. I'm not worried about reading all 4gb's of ram right now. seabigbear - That's not what I meant, he was saying he's a dumb*** for saying that Windows XP Pro 64bit is pathetic and stupid. I was just saying that's weird, because he builds and sells computers for a living. :D aleximo - That's what he was saying, it's not reliable and stable. I'm not to worried about reading all the ram right now. The computer I'm on now, doesn't even have that much ram and it's doing just fine for me, for now. 580 is low though, it seems that most of these new good video cards take more than that. Oh trust me I'm ALWAYS doing research and finding out stuff for my self, but with computer hardware, it's a little different story to a point. I just trusted his opinion and said whatever because I don't have 64 Bit, but I'm pretty sure I can get it.
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I meant a GTX580 as in the video card :)
32bit will be fine for the moment as you only has 4gb anyway but we are just saying if you plan on upgrading any more make sure you go 64bit.
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I meant a GTX580 as in the video card :)
32bit will be fine for the moment as you only has 4gb anyway but we are just saying if you plan on upgrading any more make sure you go 64bit.
If I get the GTX 580 from Evga, I would need a bigger Power Supply than that cheap one on NewEgg. :/ haha But you're right, I would be set for a LONG TIME. Yeah that's what I thought, but it's not letting me install it what so ever. I do plan on going 64 bit, just not right now since I don't have it or want to purchase it yet. It's just temproary for now. If it'll let me install it. Since it came with Windows 7 Ultimate, do I need to disable/change something in the Bios?
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seabigbear - That's not what I meant, he was saying he's a dumb*** for saying that Windows XP Pro 64bit is pathetic and stupid. I was just saying that's weird, because he builds and sells computers for a living. :D
Like I said some people like to build computers & computers are nothing like rigs, rigs are a personal extension of ones self, IMO!
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For a psu, some psu can support more than the say (I have run a corsair 850 watt at 1000 watts before). Do you ever want to have sli? If you were to use (I will use ati as I am more familier with these) 2 6950s and have the rest of your system draw 400watts, you would need atleast a 800wat (each card can run 200watts max). It all depends on what video cards you want so if you decide that then it is simple for you to figure out your psu wattage. Finaly, do you have enough power on you circut breaker to run this? Take into account that if this runs at 800 watts then that is 1/2 your circuit if not more.
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I meant a GTX580 as in the video card :)
32bit will be fine for the moment as you only has 4gb anyway but we are just saying if you plan on upgrading any more make sure you go 64bit.
If I get the GTX 580 from Evga, I would need a bigger Power Supply than that cheap one on NewEgg. :/ haha But you're right, I would be set for a LONG TIME.
Yeah that's what I thought, but it's not letting me install it what so ever. I do plan on going 64 bit, just not right now since I don't have it or want to purchase it yet. It's just temproary for now. If it'll let me install it.
Since it came with Windows 7 Ultimate, do I need to disable/change something in the Bios?
An Corsair TX 850watt Should be fine for a single GTX580. If someone could confirm this? You shouldnt need to change anything in bios to reinstall and operating system. Does it start to install? Because its XP, it might need drivers.
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I meant a GTX580 as in the video card :)
32bit will be fine for the moment as you only has 4gb anyway but we are just saying if you plan on upgrading any more make sure you go 64bit.
If I get the GTX 580 from Evga, I would need a bigger Power Supply than that cheap one on NewEgg. :/ haha But you're right, I would be set for a LONG TIME.
Yeah that's what I thought, but it's not letting me install it what so ever. I do plan on going 64 bit, just not right now since I don't have it or want to purchase it yet. It's just temproary for now. If it'll let me install it.
Since it came with Windows 7 Ultimate, do I need to disable/change something in the Bios?
An Corsair TX 850watt Should be fine for a single GTX580. If someone could confirm this?
You shouldnt need to change anything in bios to reinstall and operating system. Does it start to install? Because its XP, it might need drivers.
Yea, but get this one it's only $10 more & it's the Latest version of 850TX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022
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seabigbear - Oh very true, I miss read that. john2571 - I don't know if I plan on running SLI, I'm probably best off just getting 1 good video card that will last me a long time. Like the GTX 580 from Evga. Yeah I know PSU's support more or less than what they say, but I just don't want to take that risk, like OverClocking. haha I guess I need help picking out a decent video card that will last me a LONG time. I do NOT know if I have enough power to run them, I would imagine I do. I live in new apartments and have had multiple computers running at once, plus a bunch of other stuff. Plus the 850 says it's says I'll save on electrical bill or whatever. :D What should I do with that link? aleximo - I was told not to go with the TX and to go with the HX or AX. Evga Nvidia GTX 580 Requirements Minimum of a 600 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 42 Amps.)  An available 6-pin PCI-E power connector and an available 8 pin PCI-E power connector Someone said in this other forum that I might need to download a driver for the Hard Disc Controller? I haven't done it yet because I don't trust these people on this forum. It's probably right though, now I think about it. It will load all the files, then it will go black and take me to the blue screen. seabigbear - Wouldn't the AX or HX be better than the TX? Edit: What about this one? I like the reviews, the price is fine and the rating. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011&Tpk=HX850
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The HX850 is an amazing PSU. Pretty much on par performance wise with the AX850 for less money.
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kaninja & seabigbear - That's what I'm leaning towards and thinking that's what I want. The money is there and I just might say screw it and buy it, but even if the money isn't there. I can save up and wait until have the funds.
It's better off getting something good instead of going cheap and regreting it. I can wait, I have no problem waiting until I can afford it.
Another question. Are warrantys transferable from CorsAir?
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Another question. Are warrantys transferable from CorsAir?
No, they are not. Yellowbeard (Corsair Rep)
We cannot guarantee the condition of re-sold products sold second hand. Therefore, our warranty does not extend to products that are sold second hand. This is standard throughout pretty much any industry.
Corsair Warranty info from website
Except where prohibited by applicable local law, this warranty is limited to the original purchaser and is non-transferable. This warranty provides you with specific legal rights, and you may have additional rights that vary under local laws.
post edited by kaninja - 2011/02/26 16:57:12
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For your psu and video card, get the 580. For power each 6 pin connecter uses 75watts max and each 8 pin uses 150watts max. A 850 watt will be plenty and your video card is a great choise and will future-proof you although in 1 or 2 months the dual gpu cards will come out and you may want to hold off to see what those are like.
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kaninja - That sucks, so no E-Bay Options for me unless it's brand new, but more than likely wont be the situation.
How does the Warranty get activated?
I'm also curious if this is going to work with my computer componets?
john2571 - I'm not worried about it taking to much to power, probably good I'm not going with the 1200 though. haha :D I wont care to much about the Dual Cards, because like I said I'm not really into it big like most people are. I play a game that takes literly like NOTHING to play. Just on case, it would be nice to be prepared for what happens in the future, if something does.
I'm also a fan of waiting for stuff to get debugged and fixed before purchasing. I wont be buying the 580 for awhile though, so things may change.
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Glad I could help. 
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Glad I could help.
I guess I would need to find a cheap video card for the mean time. Now onto getting Windows XP Pro installed on my computer.
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Why not save some money and get a GTX560Ti and a smaller 650W (cheaper) PSU brand new. Maybe even a GTX570. Unless you know for sure you are going to go SLI down the road you can save a lot of money by purchasing a more affordable yet very capable card and a lower wattage yet sufficiently powerful PSU....just a thought.
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Why not save some money and get a GTX560Ti and a smaller 650W (cheaper) PSU brand new. Maybe even a GTX570. Unless you know for sure you are going to go SLI down the road you can save a lot of money by purchasing a more affordable yet very capable card and a lower wattage yet sufficiently powerful PSU....just a thought.
I could go that route to, very much. I'm not for sure about the SLI, I don't want to have to go going bigger in the future because I didn't do it now. If you undertstand.. I shouldn't even have bought hte computer, I need to save all my money because I'm trying to get a Jeep Wrangler. Edit: How does the Warranty get activated? Like their is a guy on E-Bay who is local selling his Brand New never opened HX650 for cheap.
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Why not save some money and get a GTX560Ti and a smaller 650W (cheaper) PSU brand new. Maybe even a GTX570. Unless you know for sure you are going to go SLI down the road you can save a lot of money by purchasing a more affordable yet very capable card and a lower wattage yet sufficiently powerful PSU....just a thought.
What is wrong with you, a 650w PSU is like putting a 4 cinder motor in a full size truck just ante going to work!
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Why not save some money and get a GTX560Ti and a smaller 650W (cheaper) PSU brand new. Maybe even a GTX570. Unless you know for sure you are going to go SLI down the road you can save a lot of money by purchasing a more affordable yet very capable card and a lower wattage yet sufficiently powerful PSU....just a thought.
What is wrong with you, a 650w PSU is like putting a 4 cinder motor in a full size truck just ante going to work!
+1 That was a good one, I'm laughing and now caughing. haha That's how I think towards getting a Jeep Wrangler, hell with getting a 4 Cyclinder. My SUV and Car are 8 Cyclinders. :D
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Why not save some money and get a GTX560Ti and a smaller 650W (cheaper) PSU brand new. Maybe even a GTX570. Unless you know for sure you are going to go SLI down the road you can save a lot of money by purchasing a more affordable yet very capable card and a lower wattage yet sufficiently powerful PSU....just a thought.
What is wrong with you, a 650w PSU is like putting a 4 cinder motor in a full size truck just ante going to work!
+1
That was a good one, I'm laughing and now caughing. haha That's how I think towards getting a Jeep Wrangler, hell with getting a 4 Cyclinder. My SUV and Car are 8 Cyclinders. :D
It's true I had a 750w in my rig & let say it didn't work out very well with what's in my rig!
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