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I was assisted by Tech Support with updating my GTX 1070 FTW DT bios drivers for the AMD chipset yesterday. I am now currently running ver. 86.04.3B.00.70. I am now getting voltage limit errors and having my clock speed reduced during gaming use. This is happening at stock and slight overclock speeds. Should I try to revert back to my previous driver or is this typical of this bios revision? Any assistance would be appreciated.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 03:50:34
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ComXERO
I was assisted by Tech Support with updating my GTX 1070 FTW DT bios drivers for the AMD chipset yesterday. I am now currently running ver. 86.04.3B.00.70. I am now getting voltage limit errors and having my clock speed reduced during gaming use. This is happening at stock and slight overclock speeds. Should I try to revert back to my previous driver or is this typical of this bios revision? Any assistance would be appreciated.
I personally would contact tech support again. I know it is a pain to keep having to do that, but you will get true answers and "guided" support.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 03:55:37
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I will forward this up, and see if we can get you an answer. Sorry to hear about the limitation.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 04:52:00
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I was assisted by Tech Support with updating my GTX 1070 FTW DT bios drivers for the AMD chipset yesterday. I am now currently running ver. 86.04.3B.00.70. I am now getting voltage limit errors and having my clock speed reduced during gaming use. This is happening at stock and slight overclock speeds. Should I try to revert back to my previous driver or is this typical of this bios revision? Any assistance would be appreciated.
I personally would contact tech support again. I know it is a pain to keep having to do that, but you will get true answers and "guided" support.
They were super awesome the first time around. I'm confident in their ability to help. Scarlet-Tech
I will forward this up, and see if we can get you an answer. Sorry to hear about the limitation.
Thanks Scarlet. I've set everything to stock speeds and ramped up the fan a little bit. I'm not worried at all. I have confidence that you folks will be able to help out. Still able to smash out 65-75 fps in Fallout 4 with everything at Ultra and quite a few mods.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 12:00:06
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That's interesting. Please keep us posted.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 14:54:40
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That's interesting. Please keep us posted.
Quick update. I have tried running both default settings and modified settings and still getting errors. I am using both Heaven and Valley to detect the voltage errors, along with Fallout 4 to test actual play. The limit errors occur almost immediately as the programs load. I have replicated these tests on both the primary and secondary BIOS settings and reach the same error. The only change I can think of is the update of the BIOS. Although I have over-clocked the card previous to the BIOS update, it was never at a level that I would assume as being too much. I was running stable at +150Mhz on the clock and roughly +450Mhz on the memory. Any suggestions as to testing which would help identify what may be causing this problem?
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 14:59:53
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"I was running stable at +150Mhz on the clock and roughly +450Mhz on the memory."
If you run +80Mhz on the clock and +100Mhz on the memory do you still get the errors?
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 15:10:34
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"I was running stable at +150Mhz on the clock and roughly +450Mhz on the memory."
If you run +80Mhz on the clock and +100Mhz on the memory do you still get the errors?
That is an affirmative.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 15:32:11
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Never seeing this Error what is the Error Code and is in the Event Viewer?
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 15:43:40
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Never seeing this Error what is the Error Code and is in the Event Viewer?
Not an error code. HW monitoring built in to Precision XC is showing a voltage limit fault and accordingly the clock speed drops and remains at a lower speed. I've actually had multiple V limit faults happen concurrently that cause it to continue to drop. Granted it's only by 13Mhz, but I'm sensing this is not something that should occur at default clock/memory speeds.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 15:53:53
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I wonder with this Bios update if EVGA Precision OCX needs an update now?
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 16:11:01
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Did you update both your vbioses or just the primary? The secondary shouldn't be affected if you only updated the primary.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 17:10:28
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Sajin
Did you update both your vbioses or just the primary? The secondary shouldn't be affected if you only updated the primary.
Both. Hindsight is 20/20 though.  Do you guys have something you can send me along the lines of the update I received that would allow me to do a roll-back? If I could revert and run more tests, I could isolate the issue to the drivers themselves.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 17:13:08
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Sajin
Did you update both your vbioses or just the primary? The secondary shouldn't be affected if you only updated the primary.
Both. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
Do you guys have something you can send me along the lines of the update I received that would allow me to do a roll-back? If I could revert and run more tests, I could isolate the issue to the drivers themselves.
You'd have to ask evga for the original.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/04 17:47:15
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I'll hit up support tomorrow and see what they can do for me. I will follow up with what I can figure out.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/05 10:13:51
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Hmm, interesting if you are talking about the vlotage limit flag going up (that is posting 1 in Px) then my card ftw 1080 has always done this and I'm still running the original BIOS. 86.04.17.00.80 I too lose 1 step clock boost. I know this becuase the store I bought my GTX FTW 1080 from originally, sent me an opened FTW 1080. I complained obv and so they sent me another and let me test both to see which one I liked and I sent other card back. The original card they sent however was 13MHz faster on the boost clock. (I kept the unopened card). Heres my post about it: http://forums.evga.com/GTX-1080-FTW-Volatge-Limit-flag-always-up-m2571401.aspx Be interested with the outcome of this if this is what you mean. However I don't believe it is an error flag. If I adjusted the curveoffset and up the voltage slider I hit 2160 MHz on the cxard no problem. I only did this when I first got the card to see if it would go over 2100MHz. Edit: an official response describing what the volatge limit flags means and what causes it would be useful. Or anyone that knows of course.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/07 18:01:02
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/08 10:23:35
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I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/08 11:12:33
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I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
Yup you will, its hardware not software that's causing the flag to raise (I assume). Obv software is reading the register etc. Are you sure it wasn’t up before you had touched the card BIOS? That’s why I'd like to have either an engineer or someone who has spoken to a tech guy who can explain exactly what this flag is for and what raises it. However, as far as I can tell you will only lose 13MHz against other cards etc. that do not raise this flag. I would assume it is a variance within hardware components which cause this flag to go up or not. Could be completely wrong though so a formal explanation would be really nice. As I said before though on my card I can hit a stable +150 core and have tried +400 on mem and everything works fine. The card settles (running heaven) at around 2122MHz down from 2160MHz so arguably with my silicone I could hit 2135MHz without this flag going up. Which of course relates to less than a frame per second. Also, as I think I said the original card I had could not go 1MHz above 2100MHz. 2096-8 or something was fine 2100+ crash not matter what, but had no voltage flag raised. So.. I'm happy really. Just want to know what it is. EDIT: previewing is hard
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/08 11:18:55
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ComXERO
I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
Yup you will, its hardware not software that's causing the flag to raise (I assume). Obv software is reading the register etc. Are you sure it wasn’t up before you had touched the card BIOS?
That’s why I'd like to have either an engineer or someone who has spoken to a tech guy who can explain exactly what this flag is for and what raises it. However, as far as I can tell you will only lose 13MHz against other cards etc. that do not raise this flag. I would assume it is a variance within hardware components which cause this flag to go up or not.
Could be completely wrong though so a formal explanation would be really nice.
As I said before though on my card I can hit a stable +150 core and have tried +400 on mem and everything works fine. The card settles (running heaven) at around 2122MHz down from 2160MHz so arguably with my silicone I could hit 2135MHz without this flag going up. Which of course relates to less than a frame per second.
Also, as I think I said the original card I had could not go 1MHz above 2100MHz. 2096-8 or something was fine 2100+ crash not matter what, but had no voltage flag raised. So.. I'm happy really. Just want to know what it is.
EDIT: previewing is hard
I'm gonna go ahead and put the issue to rest. I've gotten decent overclocks and not having stability or temp issues. I think that it's more of a curiosity now to figure out what is causing it. I'm at +180 on my core and +600 on mem and was able to hit a 99fps average with temps staying below 62C at 80% fan speed. I'll take it.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/08 11:28:09
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I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
Yup you will, its hardware not software that's causing the flag to raise (I assume). Obv software is reading the register etc. Are you sure it wasn’t up before you had touched the card BIOS?
That’s why I'd like to have either an engineer or someone who has spoken to a tech guy who can explain exactly what this flag is for and what raises it. However, as far as I can tell you will only lose 13MHz against other cards etc. that do not raise this flag. I would assume it is a variance within hardware components which cause this flag to go up or not.
Could be completely wrong though so a formal explanation would be really nice.
As I said before though on my card I can hit a stable +150 core and have tried +400 on mem and everything works fine. The card settles (running heaven) at around 2122MHz down from 2160MHz so arguably with my silicone I could hit 2135MHz without this flag going up. Which of course relates to less than a frame per second.
Also, as I think I said the original card I had could not go 1MHz above 2100MHz. 2096-8 or something was fine 2100+ crash not matter what, but had no voltage flag raised. So.. I'm happy really. Just want to know what it is.
EDIT: previewing is hard
I'm gonna go ahead and put the issue to rest. I've gotten decent overclocks and not having stability or temp issues. I think that it's more of a curiosity now to figure out what is causing it. I'm at +180 on my core and +600 on mem and was able to hit a 99fps average with temps staying below 62C at 80% fan speed.
I'll take it.
Yup my card is similar on temps @%70-%73 fan speed (67°C) but only at +150 (seems max for mine, but hey anything over 2100MHz is a win) mem could probably go higher haven't tried yet. But as you say would be very helpful to understand what this is.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/08 12:27:25
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I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
You're 100% certain you didn't see this on the original vbios? I have two titan xp's, one hits the voltage limit constantly when gaming while the other doesn't. I'm think about flashing my titan xp's to see if I can get the issue to go away. Relentlessly
ComXERO
I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
That’s why I'd like to have either an engineer or someone who has spoken to a tech guy who can explain exactly what this flag is for and what raises it. However, as far as I can tell you will only lose 13MHz against other cards etc. that do not raise this flag. I would assume it is a variance within hardware components which cause this flag to go up or not.
The flag means you've currently hit the limit set within the vbios.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/08 13:24:13
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ComXERO
I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
You're 100% certain you didn't see this on the original vbios? I have two titan xp's, one hits the voltage limit constantly when gaming while the other doesn't. I'm think about flashing my titan xp's to see if I can get the issue to go away.
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ComXERO
I received another BIOS to try out, but unfortunately I am still encountering the same voltage limit and losing clock speed.
That’s why I'd like to have either an engineer or someone who has spoken to a tech guy who can explain exactly what this flag is for and what raises it. However, as far as I can tell you will only lose 13MHz against other cards etc. that do not raise this flag. I would assume it is a variance within hardware components which cause this flag to go up or not.
The flag means you've currently hit the limit set within the vbios.
Hmm interesting. If thats the case, whats going on? The value cannot be hard coded (so every VBIOS is the same) if your twin cards behave differently.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/09 13:43:26
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Hello ComXERO,
I read that you have an AMD mainboard and were assisted by EVGA in order to update your graphics card. I also have an AMD MB, i´ve already sent a contact e-mail to EVGA, yet did not receive any answer. So here my question: what is exactly required in order to get the new firmware in the graphics card when having an AMD MB? Is it a special BIOS version? Or are there any special steps required, apart from just running the updater? If you could please inform me what were the steps suggested by the EVGA technician, this would be very helpful. I´m a experienced PC user (more then 30 years using PCs) and quite confident that i will understand the process, if roughly described. If preferred, you may also answer per Private Message.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/09 14:45:57
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Flashed one of my titan x's with both vbioses from both my titan xp's. No dice. If you want this fixed you'll need to rma.
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/09 14:49:54
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Flashed one of my titan x's with both vbioses from both my titan xp's. No dice. If you want this fixed you'll need to rma.
Don't even know what it is though (apart from the obvious). Is it RMA worthy, that is is it an actual unintended function? under 1.096?
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Re: Getting voltage limit errors after updating BIOS
2016/11/09 15:45:31
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Flashed one of my titan x's with both vbioses from both my titan xp's. No dice. If you want this fixed you'll need to rma.
Don't even know what it is though (apart from the obvious). Is it RMA worthy, that is is it an actual unintended function? under 1.096?
It's rma worthy if you're looking to squeeze every single MHz out of your card for benchmarking purposes. If you're just gaming I wouldn't rma.
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