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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/11 22:29:17 (permalink)
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temps are very important!  Cant give you the scientific reason, but they are the reason for the season...


Temps will change the properties of the Silicon ever so slightly. When you use LN2\DICE you lower the temp which Im assuming lowers the electrical resistance of the silicon which allows for better OCing. Thats the conclusion that I came up with. No idea if im right or not, but it makes sense.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/11 22:58:45 (permalink)
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nateman_doo

temps are very important!  Cant give you the scientific reason, but they are the reason for the season...


Temps will change the properties of the Silicon ever so slightly. When you use LN2\DICE you lower the temp which Im assuming lowers the electrical resistance of the silicon which allows for better OCing. Thats the conclusion that I came up with. No idea if im right or not, but it makes sense.


Makes sense to me....also heard if you go too low the electrons move too fast causing problems.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 02:15:44 (permalink)
Just ordered my rad, tubing, biocide and a butt load of screws. The longest set of screws that came with the EK rad said 35mm and ill be ordering 35mm thick Ultra Kaze's so I didnt want to chance it. Got 32 to future proof me for 8 fans on that rad.

I think Ill have the coolest CPU in town. That rad will only be cooling my i7 only for the time being.



I was thinking about getting a MCR320 from Swiftech but than Voklskier told me to go big or go home, so I went big.

http://www.ekwaterblocks....stream-rad-xt-480.html

Ill be ordering the Fans and fan controller from jabtech in a day or two, and the MCP355 pump from newegg over the weekend.

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http://www.jab-tech.com/S...-Fan-High-pr-3940.html

Crappy Silver one but I dont think ill be mounting it inside my case. The black one is out of stock, but for $14 you cant really go wrong.
http://www.jab-tech.com/images/T/t_2529.jpg

That will make 6 different packages I will be expecting next week.


Let me do a tally.

Swiftech Apogee GTZ CPU block ------ $25    
x6 1/2" ID DangerDen Barbs ---------- $6 
XSPC Res Top -----------------------------$32
EK 4x120mm Rad -------------------------$99.95
10ft 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD -------------------$6.90
Petra's PT Nuke ---------------------------$3.25
x32 1.5in 6/32 Screws -------------------$6.08
MCP355 Pump -----------------------------$64.99
x4 Scythe Ultra Kazes 3k ----------------$35.80
Sunbeam Rheobus Fan Controller -----$13.95

    Sub Total --------------------------------$293.92

         Shipping (combined) --------------$34.61

Grand total:

328.53

post edited by Rudster816 - 2010/02/12 02:33:20

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 07:45:52 (permalink)
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I think Ill have the coolest CPU in town.


Maybe in your town...

heh


Get enough tube to put that fan outside, then you will see some results.  Pick up some grey kneadable eraser.. and some foam from Mcmaster Carr.com

3/8" for the first layer to the CPU socket, and 1/2" on up.  a sheet of each non-backed 12"x12" will do just fine.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 11:28:25 (permalink)
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Rudster816

I think Ill have the coolest CPU in town.


Maybe in your town...



Oh we will see about that. Too bad its extremely warm here. 50f is supposed to be the high today!! Stupid El Nino


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 11:40:31 (permalink)
serious.. put that radiator outside!! You live in the Tundra... you should be taking FULL advantage of that.  the foam is $5.00 a sheet! get to WORK
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 11:43:28 (permalink)
Outside FTW!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 12:58:18 (permalink)
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Outside FTW!


Lol.
What about a freezer? or a fridge?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 14:08:08 (permalink)
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serious.. put that radiator outside!! You live in the Tundra... you should be taking FULL advantage of that.  the foam is $5.00 a sheet! get to WORK


Far from Tundra, the rain shadow effect hits us hard here in Washington state. Its not even supposed to get below freezing tonight

Im going to talk to my dad about what kind of insulation he can nab from his work, if any.

Right now the Dew point is above the outside temp, which is a whopping 45f, so I could probably find a day to throw the rad out the window, or the entire rig without insulating and get better temps. With such a big rad running on just my i7 the delta should only be 3 or 4 degrees C.

I think by the time I get everything setup the way I want it and all the stuff I need to do cold temps, all the cold weather will be gone
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 14:34:15 (permalink)
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nateman_doo

serious.. put that radiator outside!! You live in the Tundra... you should be taking FULL advantage of that.  the foam is $5.00 a sheet! get to WORK


Far from Tundra, the rain shadow effect hits us hard here in Washington state. Its not even supposed to get below freezing tonight

Im going to talk to my dad about what kind of insulation he can nab from his work, if any.

Right now the Dew point is above the outside temp, which is a whopping 45f, so I could probably find a day to throw the rad out the window, or the entire rig without insulating and get better temps. With such a big rad running on just my i7 the delta should only be 3 or 4 degrees C.

I think by the time I get everything setup the way I want it and all the stuff I need to do cold temps, all the cold weather will be gone

yea that sucks for benching but your still set up to have a killer rig

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 15:25:26 (permalink)
I finally got some time to bench today. We had a half day of school, so that helped.

I got 2 5th place ribbons on the bot, and that was with stock gpu clocks on the 2x 8800gs's, and my q9300 at only 3ghz (its stock 2.5). I got some points too, for a few other things besides the ribbon entries.

My max valid i was able to get on the 750i FTW with the q9300 was 3.6ghz, which is 480fsb, which for a 750i is pretty good. I wonder what the q9300 can do on the DFI P35 board?

Still benching though.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 15:40:22 (permalink)
Great job xxrabid!  we need some points!

speaking of points, look at sniper!  he's up to 577.7!!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 15:52:14 (permalink)
Ya that guys out of control I got some new equipment coming next week hope I can do a little damage.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 16:02:44 (permalink)
I know you guys were talking about it a while ago and I dont feel like reading back 30+ pages can someone reccomend a decent multimeter need it to measure resistance and voltage. Looking to spend as little as possible
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 17:19:44 (permalink)
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Let me do a tally.

Swiftech Apogee GTZ CPU block ------ $25    
x6 1/2" ID DangerDen Barbs ---------- $6 
XSPC Res Top -----------------------------$32
EK 4x120mm Rad -------------------------$99.95
10ft 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD -------------------$6.90
Petra's PT Nuke ---------------------------$3.25
x32 1.5in 6/32 Screws -------------------$6.08
MCP355 Pump -----------------------------$64.99
x4 Scythe Ultra Kazes 3k ----------------$35.80
Sunbeam Rheobus Fan Controller -----$13.95

   Sub Total --------------------------------$293.92

        Shipping (combined) --------------$34.61

Grand total:

328.53




Hahaha. That looks exactly like what I have in mind.. That rad and all. Except I'm gonna use the MCP655 - $64.99.. And the HK v3 LT. I think you'll enjoy all that though.. It'll be like cooling christmas.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 19:21:35 (permalink)
hey when you guys use dice do you have to prep then clean your boards before regular use, and can single stages be used for everyday use.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 19:29:38 (permalink)
let the benching begin!  for the weekend!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 19:56:20 (permalink)
Im already on it.  i HATE my 295!  ugh!  now is skitzin out for some reason. 
I blew up a 9800, shorted 2 mosfets.  they are in the mail already
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 20:12:06 (permalink)
better start looking at others clocks speed before jumping out there with your over clocks...lol

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 20:28:50 (permalink)
John, you there?  I'm dropping the 960 from the lappy into the classified, but the 960 has sticker on the bottom of it?  Is that normal for laptops?  Should I remove it first?  I really don't want to chance touching the bottom of the cpu!!!!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 21:00:35 (permalink)
my 295's are doing weird things, and I can barely keep my eyes open.  Nothing going right tonight... getting close to throwing in the towel

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 21:13:02 (permalink)
we have had the 3rd highest jump in points for the team on the bot (of the top 100 teams)

go us!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 23:55:58 (permalink)
Not tonight for me either...last run

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/12 23:55:59 (permalink)
we need more people there are to many people in this forum  with crazy rigs not to have any points up there. I mean cpuiz scores should just be manditory.  Im going for 5ghz tomorrow Got a slush box in the freezer with a radiator full of antifreeze. I booted 240 today but couldnt validate in time. Wish I had some money marcam has a real good chip for sale.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/13 06:04:20 (permalink)
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I booted 240 today but couldnt validate in time. Wish I had some money marcam has a real good chip for sale.


boot lower and use elleet (or buy one of those evbot thingys) to raise it up.  booting at 240 is incredible.  226 is about my boards boot limit
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/13 08:04:32 (permalink)
yea I got a program called turbo v thats similar to eleet let the I got some work to do now man my vid card is 20 mins a way at a ups depot thats closed AHHHHHHH I have to wait untill tuesday.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/13 09:00:59 (permalink)
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yea I got a program called turbo v thats similar to eleet let the I got some work to do now man my vid card is 20 mins a way at a ups depot thats closed AHHHHHHH I have to wait untill tuesday.





I would try to get a hold of someone and see if you could pick it up.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/13 09:06:41 (permalink)
there closed
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/13 09:21:17 (permalink)
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reggiesanchez

yea I got a program called turbo v thats similar to eleet let the I got some work to do now man my vid card is 20 mins a way at a ups depot thats closed AHHHHHHH I have to wait untill tuesday.





I would try to get a hold of someone and see if you could pick it up.



+1. I wouldn't want to wait!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/02/13 09:22:53 (permalink)
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there closed

Well I was wrong they are not closed but heres the thing, my tracking number says arrived in middleburg heights OH which is about 30 minutes away, they dont give out the number to the plant. There is a ups truck in my development with nada so I guess im going for a drive.
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