nateman_doo

johnksss

have you had a chance to put this machine to work. meaning...earn it's keep. because it's sure keeping you busy.

I will be using the same motors and some other stuff, but I need new metal slabs, going with linear bearing rails, and this will have close to TWO FEET of travel in both X/Y and far more accurate then my current machine. 

I'd love to see a worklog and or guide to make your own :)

Will a good layer of liquid tape over the front and back of the board and vaseline in the CPU socket be enough for phase change?

Halo_003

trilogy3337

Yeah I am going to miss my 295's, they both went for RMA a few weeks back because they quit clocking up in 3D mode. Both got replaced with GTX 480's. Also sent back a GTX260 192 Core I had laying around that was dead dead, it is on it's way back as a GTX460FSB 1024MB. On the Flipside, will give me something new to do. I also am just sitting back waiting on the next round of CPU and GPU releases to build an entire rig. This is probably the longest I've ever run a platform ever.

Wow that sucks. Sorry to hear that. That is a sad day man.. 

Except now he has new stuff to bench.

johnksss

ty_ger07

Will a good layer of liquid tape over the front and back of the board and vaseline in the CPU socket be enough for phase change?

yes & no.
yes meaning..it's great and will hold up
no meaning..if you dont insulate the cpu hold down and the cpu socket with foam good..the water buildup from the phase being turned off will eventually over run the board.

Alright.  I have insulated the board with liquid tape pretty well.  The back side has a roughly 5"x8" square covered.  The front of the board is coated around the outer perimeter of the socket exending over to the memory sockets, down to the NB heatsink, and over to the inductors.  I will look for some moldable eraser to better insulate around the socket and retention mechansim.  I will also be looking for some foam for around the cold plate.  I will have to wait for the phase change unit to arrive before I know exaclty what I will need in the way of foam and hold-down hardware.
 
So, for the front of the board, effectively, I only have a perimeter 1/2" to 3/4" around the socket insulated coated.  Should I remove the NB heatsink and insulate coat a larger area?

 So I thought all the 2600K chips were the same as far multi goes. But it seems that is not correct. Gunslinger is selling 1 limited to 54x I have 1 limited to 59x and another that seems to have no limit. I set it to 70 and though of course it did not boot it allowed me to set it there and it tried to boot. Whats the deal?

lets make it easier...can you boot into windows at 59x and run wprime1.55 1024? vantage cpu or dx11? 
 

 
*DEAD*!

mistermister



*DEAD*!

yeah, thats a nice Photoshopped try..lol

awalleyeguy

johnksss

lets make it easier...can you boot into windows at 59x and run wprime1.55 1024? vantage cpu or dx11? 

Boot yes, run anything no. But I am just on ambient water.

well, you have to be able to boot into windows & be benchable for you to claim 59x.
on water you should be able to do 55x 56x
so i would start at 52x and work you way up.
 
side note...if you can in fact get into windows at 59x and just idle there.
then if i were you. i would stop there and do no further light water testing or you'll degrade the chip.

johnksss

johnksss

lets make it easier...can you boot into windows at 59x and run wprime1.55 1024? vantage cpu or dx11? 

Boot yes, run anything no. But I am just on ambient water.

well, you have to be able to boot into windows & be benchable for you to claim 59x.
on water you should be able to do 55x 56x
so i would start at 52x and work you way up.

side note...if you can in fact get into windows at 59x and just idle there.
then if i were you. i would stop there and do no further light water testing or you'll degrade the chip.

 
I agree, that's why I only run my 960 24/7 @ 3.99Ghz.

johnksss

ty_ger07

johnksss

about a 5x5 square would be enough of liquid tape.
but the foam is the main part.if it's not insulated with foam, you will get condensation on the liquid tape and it will in turn run off in to the vreg at some point. thus ending your board. 

side note.
if the phase change arm isnt insulated well, the ice buildup will run straight down in to the cpu socket and spill over on to the board as well.

once you address those two parts...phase is pretty much good to go for a very long time.

I wouldn't care if the board did fail.  Actually, I hope it eventually does.  If it doesn't fail, then I'm not pushing it hard enough.    But, of course I don't want to help set it up for disaster.

Alright, I removed the CPU retention mechanism, coated the board right up to the socket and coated the capacitors at the center of the socket.  I will pack the socket pins with vaseline and slap it together.

The rest of the thermal insulation (foam -- not electrical insulation [which I have already done]), I will sort out when the phase unit arrives on Monday.

hold on there speed racer.
only coat the bottom of the cpu and not the socket! or you will inadvertently mess up the pins.

 
Gotcha!  Only coat the bottom of the CPU with vaseline, not the socket.
 
On the back of the board, there is the metal socket backing plate.  I never removed that; I just coated right over it.  Should I remove that metal backing plate and coat between it and the board?

ty_ger07

johnksss

ty_ger07

johnksss

about a 5x5 square would be enough of liquid tape.
but the foam is the main part.if it's not insulated with foam, you will get condensation on the liquid tape and it will in turn run off in to the vreg at some point. thus ending your board. 

side note.
if the phase change arm isnt insulated well, the ice buildup will run straight down in to the cpu socket and spill over on to the board as well.

once you address those two parts...phase is pretty much good to go for a very long time.

I wouldn't care if the board did fail.  Actually, I hope it eventually does.  If it doesn't fail, then I'm not pushing it hard enough.    But, of course I don't want to help set it up for disaster.

Alright, I removed the CPU retention mechanism, coated the board right up to the socket and coated the capacitors at the center of the socket.  I will pack the socket pins with vaseline and slap it together.

The rest of the thermal insulation (foam -- not electrical insulation [which I have already done]), I will sort out when the phase unit arrives on Monday.

hold on there speed racer.
only coat the bottom of the cpu and not the socket! or you will inadvertently mess up the pins.

Gotcha!  Only coat the bottom of the CPU with vaseline, not the socket.

On the back of the board, there is the metal socket backing plate.  I never removed that; I just coated right over it.  Should I remove that metal backing plate and coat between it and the board?

no, your good. the liquid tape is only to catch water. you main focus will be on your foam insulation.

awalleyeguy

 Sure make me feel like a noob

my bad awall! you know that is not my intentions at all!
it's just that...i was like..."awall is the luckiest guy on the planet when it comes to hardware" 

ty_ger07

johnksss

ty_ger07

johnksss

about a 5x5 square would be enough of liquid tape.
but the foam is the main part.if it's not insulated with foam, you will get condensation on the liquid tape and it will in turn run off in to the vreg at some point. thus ending your board. 

side note.
if the phase change arm isnt insulated well, the ice buildup will run straight down in to the cpu socket and spill over on to the board as well.

once you address those two parts...phase is pretty much good to go for a very long time.

I wouldn't care if the board did fail.  Actually, I hope it eventually does.  If it doesn't fail, then I'm not pushing it hard enough.    But, of course I don't want to help set it up for disaster.

Alright, I removed the CPU retention mechanism, coated the board right up to the socket and coated the capacitors at the center of the socket.  I will pack the socket pins with vaseline and slap it together.

The rest of the thermal insulation (foam -- not electrical insulation [which I have already done]), I will sort out when the phase unit arrives on Monday.

hold on there speed racer.
only coat the bottom of the cpu and not the socket! or you will inadvertently mess up the pins.

Gotcha!  Only coat the bottom of the CPU with vaseline, not the socket.

On the back of the board, there is the metal socket backing plate.  I never removed that; I just coated right over it.  Should I remove that metal backing plate and coat between it and the board?

 
I don't use vaseline anymore in the socket...kinda messy, but the real reason is I don't need it.  If you use cross secti0on of pipe foam around your heatsink/head (as a foam gasket), and eraser around the socket, built-up to the level of the CPU, no air will be able to get to the cpu, and hence no condensation will occur anywhere near the cpu.  Use a shop towel between the eraser and the foam gasket.

johnksss

hey awall...can you get into windows at 54x?

  I can bench at 54x

johnksss

you have a dice pot right?
edit:
scratch that...if your 920 can do 5.1 on water...you should be able to do 56x

  The 920 did 5.1 in 20f ambient water
This 2600K benches at 5400+ in 70f ambient water. So yeah I think 5.6 is a real possibility when I get it colder.
 I do have a dice pot. Tried using once and the board I was using it on wouldn't boot
Going to give a go again some time in the future, since I can't do it in the past.