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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/03 05:58:25 (permalink)
The case is this:
 
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The Lian-Li PC343B
Case looks affordable until you realize that $350 is a case with no drive bays, no side window, no dual psu support, no fan mounts in the front. No fan mounts on the top. It's just a box, with 18 5" drive covers in the front. That case ended  up costing me $800 3 yrs ago, and you can believe it's worth it, but I will be running it until the end of time because of what I paid for it.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/03 06:39:43 (permalink)
Wow, thats insane.  I am so pissed I spent $400 on a Mountain Mods case.  Its nothing but Aluminum panels.  No way its worth that kind of money.  Great case and I like it, but its just not worth that much in my opinion. 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/03 06:59:37 (permalink)
I had thought about getting a MM case, but I went to a friends house and saw his Lian-Li case. Now they're cases are expensive, but working with it, you feel like you get what you pay for, my case fully loaded with all my hardware is close to 80lbs. This thing doesn't even notice, every single panel is replaceable on it too. One minor quirk is the Lian-Li cases take special screws, but by the time you buy the case, and the accy's to go with it you have enough screw to fix 5 cases. The 343 case is made for pure WTH ever you want. Only thing that sucks is replacing fans. this thing has 8 120MM fans, 2 80MM fans
and buyin good fans (Like I am friday) is 200-250 bucks. I am switching all my case fans over to the SilenX IXP-74-14 Ixtrema Pro 120mm x 25mm 14dBA 72CFM Fan what sucks is that they are $22 each so it adds up fast. I switched my HTPC over to the 80mm versions and am super impressed, now to find a quieter CPU cooler for the HTPC.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/03 08:20:42 (permalink)
Personally the only case I'm willing to spend more than $300 on is the Silverstone TJ11, I love that design.
 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/03 11:09:11 (permalink)
My daily user is an EVGA micro in an Antec 300 case.  I have a nice aircraft aluminum handle (Milspec design).  So I drag it around on Lan games once a week.  My benching rig is in the mountain mods case.  Not something I would take around.  At its peak it was close to 50lbs.  LOTS of copper & water was in there (some stuff I haven't released to the general public yet) ;)

Not pretty, but it works. 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/03 19:01:32 (permalink)
Nice Nateman. I wanna get a little i5 680, on a Mega Shadow, EVGA P55 FTW 200, 3 EVGA GTX 285 Classifieds, and a 1000W PSU to use as my gaming rig. In a small case naturally.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/04 09:21:04 (permalink)
I think my 295 is heading south... Used to take 1200mV or 1188 on a good day to run 800/1282, now it takes 1212mV to run. Could be that my ambient is a little higher now but I dunno. 
 
Even on air I had it 24/7 at 694/linked/1100 with 1038mV, now it seems to want 1050mV.
 
Sad day. Especially 'cause I know I won't get another dualie 295 back from RMA, but I wouldn't take a Co-Op. Maybe a 480, not a Co-Op though, that would just be a waste of my time.
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/04 15:30:16 (permalink)
Thats me fear also, I have the DPCB 295's and I have no desire for the co-op. It will end up being stepup time. 

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/04 16:02:50 (permalink)
Temperature carries a lot of weight, even just a few degrees.


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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/04 17:12:23 (permalink)
Then how about you build a chiller for your 295's?
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/04 23:22:56 (permalink)
I actually was talkin to my a/c guy about it on the phone today, he's comming over to service my house a/c sat and we're gonna look at what I got and see if he has a evap core thats in better shape than mine and maybe convert one of my a/c units over.
 
On another note, I got my fittings today and came up with this:
 



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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/05 15:41:18 (permalink)
Looks like it wasn't easy to make.  I like the idea, but seems very unforgiving though?  At least the copper tubing will dissipate some heat by itself (or absorb it)
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/05 16:03:04 (permalink)
that copper will be a straight heat magnet.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/05 21:58:46 (permalink)
My first thought was it might dissipate some heat, but Johnksss might be right. Basicly I had the rig apart, saw those fittings and looked around and hadn't seen anyone usin em so I figured I would give it a try, I have enough compression fittings and tygon on hand if it doesn't work well. Making the lines wasn't all that bad, I had to buy a different type of bender, the one I use at work for making brake lines didn't like the soft copper. Basicly the copper tubing is $1 a foot, and I bought the bender at Sears, they have a lever action bender that is capable of 180 degree bends. I am going pure copper inside the case and tygon from the case to the rads. It is forsure not going to be any fun when I have to take it apart, but the base of the ferrel fittings have a swivel on them so not too too bad.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/05 22:32:11 (permalink)
dont get me wrong. it looks spectacular to say the least!

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/05 22:52:12 (permalink)
Well, I have an adapter I made to force the airflow from my Aux A/C unit into the intake of my case for when I want to drop the temps ALOT. When I mean alot, my DPCB 295's idle @ 25c on stock HSF. In that config the copper would forsure start to dissipate some heat.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 04:15:05 (permalink)
it's only three copper tubes can't see it making a much difference losing or adding heat.
also painting it to any color you want world be sweet!


 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 05:10:58 (permalink)
  Insulation.


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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 07:10:20 (permalink)
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it's only three copper tubes can't see it making a much difference losing or adding heat.
also painting it to any color you want world be sweet!

 
Actually there is 6, 3 on the board, 3 more attached to the case. From the pump to the HK, the Dom Cooler to the outside junction. and from the outside junction to the res. All my radiators are external.
 
And yes, if I attached it to a chiller insulation would be required, but atleast for now thats a seperate project. 
 

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 09:51:52 (permalink)
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it's only three copper tubes can't see it making a much difference losing or adding heat.
also painting it to any color you want world be sweet!

and just how many different tim's did you try on the cpu? (just to gain a 5 degree celsius advantage)
 
 

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 10:06:12 (permalink)
I will tell ya one thing I did learn so far. I don't mind sleeving my own cables, I sure am not gonna pay what alot of people want to do it. But after making a custom length 24pin cable, I will NEVER do that again. 
What makes it worse is my PSU uses metal fittings to connect to the PSU and taking those apart to make my SATA power cables was an interesting task. I need to convince myself to chop the 24pin comming out of my PSU in half because it's WAY too long. But I don't want to sleeve all that cable right now. I might do it before I finish the rig, but I don't know yet.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 10:18:13 (permalink)
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it's only three copper tubes can't see it making a much difference losing or adding heat.
also painting it to any color you want world be sweet!

and just how many different tim's did you try on the cpu? (just to gain a 5 degree celsius advantage)

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 10:20:13 (permalink)
haha. luck of the draw halo_003

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 11:39:33 (permalink)
i tried about 2 different pastes, one being a white paste in a huge tube for about $12 and OCZ freeze which costs the same in a tiny tube lol. Only improvement I saw during DICE was load temp during wPrime 1024 and SuperPI 32m, which gave me about another 50mhz...


 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 11:44:32 (permalink)
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i tried about 2 different pastes, one being a white paste in a huge tube for about $12 and OCZ freeze which costs the same in a tiny tube lol. Only improvement I saw during DICE was load temp during wPrime 1024 and SuperPI 32m, which gave me about another 50mhz...

damn, i think i got that same tube. (silicone heat transfer compound is what i got) but i use it for mixing with ic diamond and ocz freeze.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 12:12:01 (permalink)
Nate, what you found is the best way to polish up the copper for a finish that lasts?

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 12:21:19 (permalink)
yeah nate...im all ears. i need to polish up my copper evap as well.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 13:05:27 (permalink)
iirc, vinegar or ketchup work well for cleaning up copper.
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 16:07:18 (permalink)
Nate, i PM'd you, hopefully you can get back to me quickly. Thanks
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Re:Get It Colder II 2011/03/06 16:43:33 (permalink)
I got back in under 30 seconds.  I would first recommend this stuff called Scratch out:

 
Then clear coat it.  I have a special clear coat for copper that I use to coat all my stuff, but no reason a regular clear coat won't work to lock in the shine.  Yes vinegar and baking soda works instead of the polish, but keep an eye on it, it will do really cool stuff to copper-but not good.
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