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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/08 19:42:39 (permalink)
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Hehe


That looks like a classroom....whatcha gonna do with it?


no its not a classroom thats the first floor of the bulding...
 
I work in the mail room at one of the halls at my college (UNH) just so happends that this is where the space science center is and this just is kinda around. probably used for some NASA project there working on atm. never really asked tho i know some of the faculty hehe. i knew it would make people drool when they saw it hehe :)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/08 20:12:51 (permalink)
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ok how long do you run yours for ? like i said i have this built just like with other post awhile ago in a lil nervous on the board prep i dont want to kill it lol 

 
I run for hours and hours.....I'm prepped real good though...nothing is killing my board, or anything else for that matter.  You'll have to prep the socket area and rear of board socket area at a minimum.  Show us pics of what you're thinking of doing and we'll help you out.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/08 20:19:21 (permalink)
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no its not a classroom thats the first floor of the bulding...

I work in the mail room at one of the halls at my college (UNH) just so happends that this is where the space science center is and this just is kinda around. probably used for some NASA project there working on atm. never really asked tho i know some of the faculty hehe. i knew it would make people drool when they saw it hehe :)

 
Bring your dewar in and take a tap off it, lol!  Just look like you know what you're doing, hehe.  In the words of Fred Willard (Spinal Tap)..."I'm joking, of course"

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/08 21:21:42 (permalink)
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no its not a classroom thats the first floor of the bulding...

I work in the mail room at one of the halls at my college (UNH) just so happends that this is where the space science center is and this just is kinda around. probably used for some NASA project there working on atm. never really asked tho i know some of the faculty hehe. i knew it would make people drool when they saw it hehe :)


Bring your dewar in and take a tap off it, lol!  Just look like you know what you're doing, hehe.  In the words of Fred Willard (Spinal Tap)..."I'm joking, of course"


lol  its bugs me when i get packages from newegg for the staff and i wanna know what there doing with it.
 
saw an antec 1200 shipped in aswell. who needs a antec 1200 for government work... hehe


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/08 22:48:13 (permalink)
You really don't know do you?  Its when you buy something (employee) and don't want your better half finding it.  You ship stuff to your work, and they are not the ones signing for it when UPS delivers it-YOU are ;)
 
Not like I do this of course
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 04:55:28 (permalink)
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You really don't know do you?  Its when you buy something (employee) and don't want your better half finding it.  You ship stuff to your work, and they are not the ones signing for it when UPS delivers it-YOU are ;)

Not like I do this of course


hehe that is always fun, dont have to worry about it too  much
 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 07:46:40 (permalink)
wait till you get a serious GF, or wife.  They will watch every penny when it comes to your habits.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 08:55:51 (permalink)
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wait till you get a serious GF, or wife.  They will watch every penny when it comes to your habits.


have a serious GF
 
But the joys of being a college student means i dont have to deal with penny watching.... Yet


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 09:40:29 (permalink)
My pennies in college went to Old Milwaukee 16oz's

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 10:23:17 (permalink)
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My pennies in college went to Old Milwaukee 16oz's


sadly mine are going into finishing my Wc loop LOL
ive got priorites  


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 11:40:18 (permalink)
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My pennies in college went to Old Milwaukee 16oz's


sadly mine are going into finishing my Wc loop LOL
ive got my priorites straight  

Fixed.
 
And this reminds me of when an old GF, still my best friend actually blew up for like half an hour when she found out I had spent $500 on WC lol.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 12:10:35 (permalink)
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My pennies in college went to Old Milwaukee 16oz's


sadly mine are going into finishing my Wc loop LOL
ive got my priorites straight  

Fixed.

And this reminds me of when an old GF, still my best friend actually blew up for like half an hour when she found out I had spent $500 on WC lol.

lol luckily for me she understands that this is what i like doing and dosent go off on it... not shure she likes it tho... shes afraid to turn my computer on thinks shes going to break it hehe


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 14:26:22 (permalink)
Benching at 6.5*C and dropping...all air.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 16:01:04 (permalink)


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/09 18:30:07 (permalink)
Congratz Rabid! Well done.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/11 15:55:07 (permalink)
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Just set a new q9300 cpuz WR!!! 4164mhz - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1527187

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1088580_xxrabid93_cpu_z_core_2_q9300_2.5ghz_4164.26_mhz?new=true

Good job man!  Man I cannot wait to get back to benching!  Just finished Y axis-  Starting my X axis tonight and hopefully I can figure out how to do that
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/11 19:56:31 (permalink)
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Just set a new q9300 cpuz WR!!! 4164mhz - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1527187

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1088580_xxrabid93_cpu_z_core_2_q9300_2.5ghz_4164.26_mhz?new=true

 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/11 20:05:33 (permalink)
get on with ya bad self nate diggy dogg block man doo!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/11 20:32:46 (permalink)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/11 23:52:23 (permalink)
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Alright new idea, what if you take a Corsair H50/H70, use it to cool the hot side, and the put the coldside facing the Apogee GTZ block(Would be using this in line with main CPU loop).

So the sandwich would look like this...
120mm fan(For H50 rad) - H50 <-- Hotside/Coldside --> Apogee GTZ
While the whole CPU loop would be like:
MCP 355 --> Apogee GTZ(TEC)--> EK Supreme HF(CPU) --> MCP 355
Ideas on temps? If they're low then I'll definitely look into it lol.
Better late than never...
 
In terms of an idea, you're describing the basics of a chiller.  But from the specs, it won't work, at least not with any appreaciable load as intended by the blocks.  Heat from sources has to go somewhere and TEC's are limited in what they can pump unless you have many, and if you do make sure the cooler can remove the TEC heat plus whatever is being pumped through. 
 
That's the part people forget: TEC's aren't coolers, they don't replace a heatsink or a radiator, they only pump heat at the cost of running themselves.  If a unit had a Qmax of 50W and was trying to pump 100W from a source, the hotside is dissipating 150W which a cooler has to deal with otherwise the if the hotside gets too warm, then the coldside gets warm.  If instead the source was 150W, forcing 200W to the hotside, same result, the coldside gets warmer than the hotside.  The system must be balanced and many folks don't do the math expecting miracles and blame the TEC for not getting that result, which frustrates me...
 
I'd try your idea differently, say taking two H50/H70's where one should be modified with two waterblocks where one is sandwiching a TEC with another H50/H70 while the second block is on a source.  This ensures the TEC isn't removing all the heat byitself and is allowed to actually cool the fluid upstream of the source.  If you force the TEC to take it all, it isn't going to cool anything.  In terms of this idea, it's best to keep the loads going into the TEC low, i.e. don't assume this setup can now take a 6-core to 5GHz, it won't happen.   Lower the source load, higher chance for lower temps, that how it is with just about any cooler.  Ultimately if you removed the TEC, you just have a LCS with two rads, how much heat can they support? 
 
Be realistic; TEC's may lower temps if done right, but wattage levels aren't going to change except with more radiators.
post edited by lehpron - 2010/12/11 23:54:52

TEC/Peltier definitions, formulas and temperature estimations

 For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/12 08:11:33 (permalink)
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http://www.thinkdigit.com/Gaming/Dual-GPU-flagships-shown-off-Nvidia-GeForce_5732.html

Whoa.

I think you got ninja'd on tuesday  ;)
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/12 10:19:26 (permalink)
Thanks guys! I also upped a few other of my records (haven't posted them though), but my ram was being finnicky, so i stopped. Last night i just set up the UD3P with the q6600 i recently bought. Hopefully i can get some nice overclocks out of that too.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/12 17:49:22 (permalink)
So much welding... can't see straight.  Pics tomorrow. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/12 18:38:01 (permalink)
lephron thanks for replying here! That was pretty much my idea, only difference would be I'd add a swiftec 360 as the rad(instead of the modified H70), and use an EK HF Supreme CPU block, with a laing DDC.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/13 04:31:06 (permalink)
A new toy:

 
A metal specific horizontal bandsaw.  That much larger bandsaw that I have is too fast to cut steel, so I just use it for copper & aluminum. 
 
I did lots of grinding and welding yesterday and instead of posting all the pics here, I'll just make a new post on welding in the general forum.  Learned lots of good stuff. 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/13 09:59:05 (permalink)
Very nice nateman. That should help I imagine.
 
@ Lephron, here's a picture of what I mean..
 

 
 
Color codes...
 
White = tubing
Black = Swiftec 360 rad
Red = 226W TEC plate
Blue = EK HF supreme
Green = motherboard
Brown = H70 block/pump assembly
Pink = Laing 18W DDC pump
Yellow = H70 Rad
Purple outline/white inside = Swiftec GTZ CPU block on TEC
 
Hotside would face the H70 of course, cold side would face the Swiftec GTZ inline before the EK block

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/13 12:24:23 (permalink)
So your looking to chill the water a bit?   Sounds interesting.  Maybe have the tech right before the CPU. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/13 14:36:41 (permalink)
Nate, saw the welding write up you did. Nice job! I can't wait until you finish your CNC, then you can really crank out some pots. (and give the first sets free as testers to the GIC crew)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/12/13 15:41:08 (permalink)
heh.  The CNC is more for motherboard, video, and CPU blocks.  I got a rotary table for pots-but I need to finish working on the table to get it up and running.  SUCH a job.  biblical.
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