Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 17:33:16
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i'm in agreement for sure!
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 18:19:47
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DENTNU Well I tried CPU VTT all the way up to 300+ and Vcore all the way to 1.65v. I did start to notice that on CPU test 1 lasted a bit longer than before but it still got stuck. Anyone got any more suggestions ? I think I need more Vcore but I really do not think it would be safe to keep pushing higher. Thanks EVGA VDroop Control ( WITH VDroop ) Without CPU VTT Voltage ( +200mv ) try up to 300 if that doesn't work try 8-8-8-22
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 105 ) 108-110 this helps with card OC MCH Strap ( Auto ) I use 1600 to help OC. **IOH PLL VCore ( auto ) 1.425v CPU PLL VCore ( auto ) 1.425v PnP/PCI PCI Express Maximum Payload Size ( 128 ) 4096 That's what I'd try with your rig if it were in my hands. Make sure your using cold mode 1 or 2 in bios. Great job so far!!! Remember if your craving more Hwbot points there's also 3D2001,03,05 and 3D2006  Go Team!
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 18:20:26
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Ok I need some help as my head feels like its going to blow up. I am having a very strange problem. I am trying to get 191 blck stable and I almost have it sometimes it will pass the cpu test 1 and cpu test 2 sometimes it won't and get stucks at the end of cpu test 1. I am at vcore 1.59xx with VTT 250. So I am like yea it just need a bit more vcore go I set it at 1.60v try again and it won't even go passed the middle of cpu test 1 it get stuck in the start of the test. Then I try higher vtt 275 with vcore 1.59xx and same results gets stuck right in the start of cpu test 1. I have tryed all types of combinations of vcore and vtt but notthing will work. the best progress I see it works at and sometimes passed both cpu test is with 1.59xx vcore and vtt 250. I am going nuts trying to find out what is wrong and how to get this working I know I am close plz help. here is my current tamplete that is almost stable at 191 blck Frequency Control CPU Clock Ratio ( 25x ) CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 191 ) MCH Strap ( Auto ) CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto ) CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps ) Spread Spectrum ( Disabled ) PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 105 ) Memory Feature Memory Speed ( Standard ) Memory Control Setting ( Enabled ) Memory Frequency ( 1066 / 2:8 ) Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way ) Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way ) Memory Low Gap ( Auto ) tCL Setting ( 7 ) tRCD Setting ( 7 ) tRP Setting ( 7 ) tRAS Setting ( 20 ) tRFC Setting ( Auto ) Command Rate ( 1T ) Voltage Control EVGA VDroop Control ( WITH VDroop ) CPU VCore ( 1.59xxv ) CPU VTT Voltage ( +250mv ) CPU PLL VCore ( auto ) **IOH PLL VCore ( auto ) DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 ) DIMM DQ Vref ( Auto) (+0mV) QPI PLL VCore ( auto ) IOH VCore ( auto ) IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( auto ) ICH VCore ( 1.1) **VTT PWM Frequency ( 250 KHZ ) **CPU PWM Frequency ( 800 KHZ ) **CPU Impedance ( Less ) **QPI Signal Compensation ( Less ) CPU Feature Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled ) Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled ) CxE Function ( Disabled ) Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled ) Virtualization Technology ( Disabled ) Intel HT Technology ( Enabled ) Active Processor Cores ( All ) QPI Control Settings ( Enabled ) QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled ) QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.800 GT/s ) OC Recovery ( Enabled ) PnP/PCI PCI Express Maximum Payload Size ( 128 ) Power Management Setup ACPI Suspend Type ( S3 ) HPET Support ( Enabled ) HPET Mode ( 64-bit )
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 18:21:29
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Q56_Monster @-60c my gpu went nowhere. locked itself in at 1000/1125 no matter what the temps. We need one of two things....more voltage, or a lucky card....I'll take either, lol! Sounds like you could be hitting cold slow bug with your 580? I think they've made bios to help with that, just not sure where to get them...
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 19:16:25
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DENTNU
Ok I need some help as my head feels like its going to blow up. I am having a very strange problem. I am trying to get 191 blck stable and I almost have it sometimes it will pass the cpu test 1 and cpu test 2 sometimes it won't and get stucks at the end of cpu test 1. I am at vcore 1.59xx with VTT 250. So I am like yea it just need a bit more vcore go I set it at 1.60v try again and it won't even go passed the middle of cpu test 1 it get stuck in the start of the test. Then I try higher vtt 275 with vcore 1.59xx and same results gets stuck right in the start of cpu test 1. I have tryed all types of combinations of vcore and vtt but notthing will work. the best progress I see it works at and sometimes passed both cpu test is with 1.59xx vcore and vtt 250. I am going nuts trying to find out what is wrong and how to get this working I know I am close plz help.
here is my current tamplete that is almost stable at 191 blck
Frequency Control CPU Clock Ratio ( 25x ) CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 191 ) MCH Strap ( Auto ) CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto ) CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps ) Spread Spectrum ( Disabled ) PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 105 ) <---108
Memory Feature Memory Speed ( Standard ) Memory Control Setting ( Enabled ) Memory Frequency ( 1066 / 2:8 ) Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way ) Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way ) Memory Low Gap ( Auto ) tCL Setting ( 7 ) <---8 tRCD Setting ( 7 ) <---8 tRP Setting ( 7 ) <---8 tRAS Setting ( 20 ) <---21 tRFC Setting ( Auto ) Command Rate ( 1T )
Voltage Control EVGA VDroop Control ( WITH VDroop ) CPU VCore ( 1.59xxv ) CPU VTT Voltage ( +250mv ) CPU PLL VCore ( auto ) **IOH PLL VCore ( auto ) DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 ) DIMM DQ Vref ( Auto) (+0mV) QPI PLL VCore ( auto ) IOH VCore ( auto ) IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( auto ) ICH VCore (1.1) **VTT PWM Frequency ( 250 KHZ ) **CPU PWM Frequency ( 800 KHZ ) **CPU Impedance ( Less ) **QPI Signal Compensation ( Less )
CPU Feature Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled ) Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled ) CxE Function ( Disabled ) Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled ) Virtualization Technology ( Disabled ) Intel HT Technology ( Enabled ) Active Processor Cores ( All ) QPI Control Settings ( Enabled ) QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled ) QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.800 GT/s ) OC Recovery ( Enabled )
PnP/PCI PCI Express Maximum Payload Size ( 128 ) Power Management Setup ACPI Suspend Type ( S3 ) HPET Support ( Enabled ) HPET Mode ( 64-bit )
Hay DENTNU.........nice clocks mate....Q and John know there stuff  ......so well done in tacking there advice to many time you see someone ask....but not listen....  . Just a thought to add to the mix....try losening your mem timings ........Ive marked in red above ........all this will do is aliminate that as a possible cause also try pushing the PCIe frq up to 108-110 Cheers happy benching
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 19:17:12
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well I am going to call it quits for today as I have been going at this for the past 13 hours my brain is fryed. I am still having probelms getting 191 blck stable to pass vantage cpu test read my last post to get more info on my problem hopefully when I wake up in 10 hours there will be some suggestions. Thanks to everyone for all your help so far I am really greatful for all the input and suggestions. @threedhero I have been trying the setting you suggested but have to do some more testing to see if they are helping me as right now my brain is to fryed to tell the differnce lol @sniper will raise my ram timing to see what happens Thanks I really do appreciate the help everyone. well good night everyone its been a crazy day hopefully I can get to my goal of hitting 4.8Ghz or more tomarrow
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 19:27:56
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Ha ha Face palm.....  .........just read theedhero's suggetions above ......dam should realy read all messages Sorry about that thread I supose great minds think alike
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 20:18:13
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ty_ger07 I have a really humble rig. It is in a mid tower case and doesn't usually compare very well to other enthusiasts who have similar hardware who have a fully decked out system with a real full liquid cooling system. But to my surprise, look what I just noticed: I have the fastest CPU-Z speed of any liquid cooled 965 on HwBot (and that is with just a H70). There is one guy though who has a faster speed using "chilled air". Humm...funny how we always compare ourselves to the very top guys, and feel very small in doing so..... But when we compare apples to apples....stand tall my friend!
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 20:27:40
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I was about to let the nitrogen gas out of my tank, and liquid shot out, lol! Looks like I had about 5L left over from Tuesday, so I benched a few 2d tests tonight. ( I hate 2d  ) But added a few boints anyway.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 20:33:12
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Nice Q! I bet that was a pleasant surprise.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 20:41:52
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@ dentnu, what made you bump your vtt to 250? I'd keep it at 200 unless you're getting constant BSOD124's. As well as increasing your pcie freq, try decreasing it back to 100 also. @threedhero, yep I'm already using the cold slow bios.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/27 20:44:45
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Halo_003 Nice Q! I bet that was a pleasant surprise. Yea, it was...and prepping for LN2 benching is so quick, in 10 minutes you're ready!
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/28 08:01:35
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Q56_Monster @ dentnu, what made you bump your vtt to 250? I'd keep it at 200 unless you're getting constant BSOD124's. As well as increasing your pcie freq, try decreasing it back to 100 also. well I tryed what you what you said I am at 191 blck, vcore 1.59xx and VTT 200 also put my pcie freq at 100 so I run the cpu test 1 and 2 and it passed. So I restart the whole complete benchmark but when it gets to cpu test one and about 80000 ops it freezes but to my surprise I press ctl atl del and what do you know it lets me end the process with having to reboot. I must be very close to having it stable but I just can't figure out what setting I need to raise. Any suggestions plz ?
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/28 08:12:43
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That's fairly typical. You may need just a little more vcore. Did you try 1.6v? Try every vcore setting above 1.59xx.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/28 08:34:13
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Thats the thing once I hit vcore 1.6xx its like it goes completely unstable as it gives me a hard lock causing a BSOD reboot almost as soon as cpu test 1 starts. I ill try once more see what happens thanks for the advice
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/28 10:52:07
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EDIT: Forget what I just said I am still trying to get this to work will post back when its stable and working . .
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/28 11:56:09
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/28 12:39:21
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Ok well I tryed every suggestion on here and I still can not get it to be stable on 191 Blk. Its a hit and miss somtimes its stable it sometimes I get BSOD 101 or 124. I went all the way to 166 vcore and 325 vtt and still nothing. So I give up it is just to much of a mission for 50mhz more and I do not think its worth so much effort since I am already on 1.65 vcore there really is no that much more I can push i. I am very greatful to everyone here that has helped me as I was able to get it stable at 4.7ghz which is 190 blk. Its a pretty big jump from my 4.5ghz and I always thought it was impossible to reach anything over 4.5 and with you guys help I was able to do it. Thanks P.S. I was able to lower the Voltage on my 580 from 1138mv to 1125mv as I started to get gray screens. So I was able to get my 840/1880/2200 with a 1125mv perfectly stable I am going to see if I can reach 850 wish me luck.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/28 18:25:47
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Alrighty guys, I can get a TRUE 120 Black for $40 shipped. Should I? 226W TEC would be sandwiched between Apogee GTZ CPU waterblock and it. (Cold side would face CPU block ofc, hot side would be on the TRUE. What kind of temps would that give?
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 05:01:53
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DENTNU Ok well I tryed every suggestion on here and I still can not get it to be stable on 191 Blk. Its a hit and miss somtimes its stable it sometimes I get BSOD 101 or 124. I went all the way to 166 vcore and 325 vtt and still nothing. NEVER give up, just take some time to re-group. Last I recall I didn't bench anything LESS then 300 Vtt. I noticed the higher I went the more I added to VTT and it worked. I think at one point I was around 450 and up in the 5GHz, but don't quote me- its been SUCH a long time. I haven't benched since last MAY!
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 05:14:14
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Halo_003 Alrighty guys, I can get a TRUE 120 Black for $40 shipped. Should I? 226W TEC would be sandwiched between Apogee GTZ CPU waterblock and it. (Cold side would face CPU block ofc, hot side would be on the TRUE. What kind of temps would that give? You going the TEC route?
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 10:49:23
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nateman_doo DENTNU Ok well I tryed every suggestion on here and I still can not get it to be stable on 191 Blk. Its a hit and miss somtimes its stable it sometimes I get BSOD 101 or 124. I went all the way to 166 vcore and 325 vtt and still nothing. NEVER give up, just take some time to re-group. Last I recall I didn't bench anything LESS then 300 Vtt. I noticed the higher I went the more I added to VTT and it worked. I think at one point I was around 450 and up in the 5GHz, but don't quote me- its been SUCH a long time. I haven't benched since last MAY! Yea I woke up thinking about this since I had a bad nightmare just about benching lol then I saw your post. Its to bad I had to work if not I would have started benching this morning. I will most likely try to later on once I get home from work if not tomorrow. Thanks for the comment
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 10:55:45
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My pleasure. I would suggest getting one of those EVbots- makes life so much easier.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 15:55:58
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nateman_doo Halo_003 Alrighty guys, I can get a TRUE 120 Black for $40 shipped. Should I? 226W TEC would be sandwiched between Apogee GTZ CPU waterblock and it. (Cold side would face CPU block ofc, hot side would be on the TRUE. What kind of temps would that give? You going the TEC route? Tempting it wouldn't really cost all that much, maybe $100 range. For 24/7 chilled water. But I wonder what kind of temps it would give..
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 18:48:48
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Not sure about TEC cooling Halo, you might try over @ XS or that Chillernr1 guy building the SR-2 with TEC they should help you out...
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 18:58:29
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**** when Force recalculate on Hwbot my score went from 246 to 192???
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 18:59:40
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I'm just curious as to what kind of temps it'd get. If I could get ya know, 10C or so that would be nice. Edit: seems I lost the quote I made of Nate.. Oh well.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 21:04:18
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threedhero **** when Force recalculate on Hwbot my score went from 246 to 192??? Oh boy...now why'd you go and do that? I just added up your points...192.8. Are there any that are obviously missing? PM Massman and see what he has to say. Screen shot your sig quick just so he knows where you were.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 21:11:33
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Alright new idea, what if you take a Corsair H50/H70, use it to cool the hot side, and the put the coldside facing the Apogee GTZ block(Would be using this in line with main CPU loop). So the sandwich would look like this... 120mm fan(For H50 rad) - H50 <-- Hotside/Coldside --> Apogee GTZ While the whole CPU loop would be like: MCP 355 --> Apogee GTZ(TEC)--> EK Supreme HF(CPU) --> MCP 355 Ideas on temps? If they're low then I'll definitely look into it lol.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/11/29 21:20:01
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