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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/05/31 19:51:43 (permalink)
I found it, it rolled under the futon in the office.  I found a really cool picture that I will share with you guys since you guys are about to lynch me for pictures...   ;)

But I just may wait until tomorrow since its bedtime
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/05/31 19:55:25 (permalink)
beat it succa!
i pity the fool who don't post pictures when he is suppose to!



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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/05/31 19:55:54 (permalink)
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I found it, it rolled under the futon in the office.  I found a really cool picture that I will share with you guys since you guys are about to lynch me for pictures...   ;)

But I just may wait until tomorrow since its bedtime


Is that because it's your bedtime or is it your known variable's bed time?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/05/31 21:12:39 (permalink)
Probably the latter. 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 02:34:15 (permalink)
heh...I guess I could post them today right? 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 08:47:37 (permalink)
Finally Posted... the Air cooled waterblock!
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=395778


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 08:52:12 (permalink)
Just posted in that thread. Very nice work nate!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 09:07:19 (permalink)
Fantastic Job Nate

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 09:14:20 (permalink)
Damn outstanding Nate. Great work.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 10:32:16 (permalink)
Thank you gents!  I got a few other projects of equal grandeur :P
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 11:06:54 (permalink)
nate be da' man!


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 11:14:52 (permalink)
I have one project that absolutely no one knows about, but It didn't work out as i had hoped, so I never really looked too much into it.  I may just post it in hopes that others can take off where I have failed. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 16:03:57 (permalink)
Denatured alcohol cuts the petroleum jelly and doesn't hurt anything or leave any traces behind.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 16:10:28 (permalink)
Hey guys I've made the changes to my bios temp you guys suggested and my temps have gone way down which is great! Thanks again for that, so I'm able to run most every 3D bench without a problem . I'm at a blck of 210 so far and cpu temps are great. However when trying to run with a blck of 212 I mostly get lockups not BSODs. I've tried ram timings at stock setting with no luck a few bumps in different volts, nothing... This is my temp so far...

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Voltage Control
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CPU VCore ( 1.53)
CPU VTT Voltage ( +250 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.500 )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 )     
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QPI PLL VCore ( 1.25 )
IOH VCore ( 1.375 )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( 1.625 )
ICH VCore ( 1.25 )
PWM Frequency ( 1067 )

CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Logical Processor Setting
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Settings
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.8 GT/s )

I've had the IOH to 1.3 and the IOH/ICH to 1.5 and still get the same lockups. Am I missing anything that could be holding me back to reach 212 blck or higher?

I wish hoping to try some DICE runs but after all the CPU problems I'm having would it be a waste of money to invest in a pot and mats?

post edited by threedhero - 2010/06/01 16:14:22


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 16:33:04 (permalink)
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Denatured alcohol cuts the petroleum jelly and doesn't hurt anything or leave any traces behind.


I will have to disagree with you...  I submerged a board in denatured alcohol, and it didn't do a thing for the Vaseline.  Just stunk up my basement and made the plasti-dip easier to get off.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 16:34:39 (permalink)
threed, try 8 8 8 24 2T, and up the ram  voltage to 1.7.  if no more crashes, it was your ram that was the problem.   Then try to get your tighter timings back. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 16:38:58 (permalink)
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SocioPC

Denatured alcohol cuts the petroleum jelly and doesn't hurt anything or leave any traces behind.


I will have to disagree with you...  I submerged a board in denatured alcohol, and it didn't do a thing for the Vaseline.  Just stunk up my basement and made the plasti-dip easier to get off.


Works fine for me completely removed the Vaseline from a 780 and 790 board which I also had to RMA without issue. I put it in a spray bottle and only removed the residue left after using a blow dryer.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 16:42:14 (permalink)
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threed, try 8 8 8 24 2T, and up the ram  voltage to 1.7.  if no more crashes, it was your ram that was the problem.   Then try to get your tighter timings back. 


1.7 Vcore huh well I'll give it a try and let you know.


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 17:08:46 (permalink)
nateman_doo

I have one project that absolutely no one knows about, but It didn't work out as i had hoped, so I never really looked too much into it.  I may just post it in hopes that others can take off where I have failed. 



I have one of those too but she lives in Illinois..




I say post it, depending on the cost I'd be willing to try it.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 17:11:01 (permalink)
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nateman_doo

threed, try 8 8 8 24 2T, and up the ram  voltage to 1.7.  if no more crashes, it was your ram that was the problem.   Then try to get your tighter timings back. 


1.7 Vcore huh well I'll give it a try and let you know.


he means the RAM voltage not vcore

 

   

 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 17:21:51 (permalink)
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )
CPU Host Frequency (MHz) ( 210 )
MCH Strap (DRAM) Try auto
CPU Uncore Frequency (MHz) ( auto )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 108 )Probably does not need to be this high
Turb Performance (Disabled)
Extreme Cooling (Disabled)

Memory Feature
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 2:8 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Parameters
tCL Setting ( 7 ) ?
tRCD Setting ( 8 ) ?
tRP Setting ( 7 ) ?
tRAS Setting ( 20 ) ?
tRFC Setting ( 88 ) ?
Command Rate ( 1T )
?

Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.53)
CPU VTT Voltage ( +250 )May not have to be this high and then again maybe not high enough
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.500 )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 )      Try what Natman says then see if you can bring it down
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0 )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.25 )
IOH VCore ( 1.375 )Unless you are running HIGH end video cards should not have to be this high
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( 1.625)This up one for every two on IOH
ICH VCore ( 1.25 )Unless you are having problems booting cause you have like 8 hard drives this can be left on auto
PWM Frequency ( 1067 )

CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Logical Processor Setting
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Settings
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.8 GT/s )

 Thats my .02


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 18:19:12 (permalink)
my CPU VTT is usually no less then +300.  and yea, just start with the pci-e around 100
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 18:21:54 (permalink)
AutomatedBeef

he means the RAM voltage not vcore


Man I hope he got that.... 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 18:38:31 (permalink)
Wasn't sure first time about the ioh and ioh/ich but I think I've got it now. getting lockups at windows loading screen now.

CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )
CPU Host Frequency (MHz) ( 212 )
MCH Strap (auto)
CPU Uncore Frequency (MHz) ( auto )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) (106)
Turb Performance (Disabled)
Extreme Cooling (Disabled)

Memory Feature
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 2:8 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Parameters
tCL Setting (8)
tRCD Setting (8)
tRP Setting
(8)
tRAS Setting
(8)
tRFC Setting
(24)
Command Rate
(2T)


Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.53)
CPU VTT Voltage ( +200 )May not have to be this high and then again maybe not high enough
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.500 )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.700 )      Try what Natman says then see if you can bring it down
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0 )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.25 )
IOH VCore ( 1.200 )Unless you are running HIGH end video cards should not have to be this high
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( 1.550)This up one for every two on IOH
ICH VCore ( auto ) Tried 1.20 & 1.30     Unless you are having problems booting cause you have like 8 hard drives this can be left on auto
PWM Frequency ( 1067 )


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 18:39:58 (permalink)
nateman_doo

AutomatedBeef

he means the RAM voltage not vcore


Man I hope he got that.... 

AND as promised, the cool picture I wanted to share with you guys:



Sweet. Haven't lost any body parts yet?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 18:41:06 (permalink)
COOOOOOOL


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 18:45:44 (permalink)
CPU VTT Voltage ( +200 )May not have to be this high and then again maybe not high enough  +.300 and see if you can lower v-core

DIMM Voltage ( 1.700 )      Try what Natman says then see if you can bring it down Try like 1.67 might be that 1.65 isn't really putting out 1.65

Most likly the problem is here  Freezing is often mem related I think.
All speculation of course.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 18:55:19 (permalink)
awalleyeguy

CPU VTT Voltage ( +200 )May not have to be this high and then again maybe not high enough  +.300 and see if you can lower v-core

DIMM Voltage ( 1.700 )      Try what Natman says then see if you can bring it down Try like 1.67 might be that 1.65 isn't really putting out 1.65

Most likly the problem is here  Freezing is often mem related I think.
All speculation of course.



Alright thanks awall, I'm also going to try ram at stock settings 9-9-9-26-74. They are rated for 2000mhz so I don't understand why they are being such a pain.


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 20:11:05 (permalink)
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COOOOOOOL


COOOLLLLLD!  DAMN COLD :P

that is pure LN2 goodness coming out of my dispenser.  Should probably post that under the dispenser thread
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/06/01 20:36:21 (permalink)
No, this is THE thread for that.....who was holding it & who was taking the pic?

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