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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/08 22:06:02
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Hey John, Thanks for the gun scrubber tip. Works great. Just a few quick shots and it disolved the ceramique right out of my beloved REX's socket. Great mobo if I can get to use it for any length of time. Bad things keep happening to it. First I almost killed it flashing BIOS...worked three hours to get it back. Then I got two 3dm01 runs in on it @ 6.2Ghz....wicked quick success, but then condensation worked it's way somewhere...thought it was dead. But it wasn't, so I took the chip out and got the ceramique in the socket  Next up is Q6600 action...hope to get 5ghz cpu-z now that the socket is cleaned out.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/08 22:06:03
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That template is my current vantage stable.. max temp on CPU cores is 63C, cores idle around 35C, actual CPU temp idles at 24.
Wish I hadn't lost my settings.. Ah with 1.5875 CPU Vcore it still freezes fast in Vantage CPU test 1, so I don't think it's a vcore problem..
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/08 22:12:20
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Halo drop everything to auto. set vcore @ 1.45 (should be plenty) 21*209. You can leave the cpu features like you have them, but everything except vcore/multi/bclk on Auto.
See how it goes. bump up vcore till stable on some vantage cpu tests
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/08 22:13:40
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Update: Flashed to latest bios (78)
Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 21X )
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 215 )
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 3446Mhz { 16X } )
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 109 )
Memory Feature
Memory Speed ( XMP Profile 1 )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 8 )
tRCD Setting ( 9 )
tRP Setting ( 8 )
tRAS Setting ( 24 )
tRFC Setting ( Auto )
Command Rate ( 1t )
Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.5875 )
CPU VTT Voltage ( +450 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.800 )
**IOH PLL VCore ( 1.500 )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 )
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.450 )
IOH VCore ( 1.300V )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( 1.650V )
**BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( Auto ) (only on E-759)
**VTT PWM Frequency ( 610 KHZ )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( 1210 KHZ )
**CPU Impedance ( Less )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( Middle ) <-- not on my bios.
ICH VCore ( 1.250 )
*PWM Frequency ( Not Used on Classified )
DDR Signal 0: (+0)
DDR Signal 1: (+0)
DDR Signal 2: (+0)
CPU Signal: (+0)
QPI Signal 0: (+0)
QPI Signal 1: (+0)
QPI Signal 2: (+0)
PCIE Signal 0: (+0)
PCIE Signal 1: (+0)
CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Disabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.800 GT/s )
OC Recorvery ( Enabled )
PnP/PCI PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 4096 )
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/08 22:14:54
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haha Awall to the rescue! Everything's in the cloud somewhere, lol! 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/08 22:29:51
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no problem Q! and XtremeCuztoms put me up on that dragon skin stuff. im going to go grab some tomorrow. it is said to be the best thing running. easy on and easy off. check my prep thread on kpc.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 02:56:44
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Then I got two 3dm01 runs in on it @ 6.2Ghz....
 what chip?!
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 05:21:01
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tribbs,
i too am waiting on that dice block attachment and will probably add the top extension as well.
Does the extension fit the Gemini, I was under the impression that is was bigger than the F1EE, it would probably still work, it just wouldn't fit tight
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 05:33:50
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when ever parts are available...that is...:) the dice block is under testing now.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 06:28:42
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ah, I see how it is,  well I have a couple new toys being shipped to me from a friend, a bio-star 890fx mobo and a koolance dice pot that he is giving me, I just had to pay shipping and buy a cpu and some ram and they should all be here around the same day, hoping to see the max cpu frequency I can get out of it on dice, but it has been quite a while since I have even seen an amd board, but am looking forward to no cold bug.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 06:54:54
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ah, I see how it is, oh yeah..well explain so i can see how it is also...lol because i dont have a dice block for testing...yet. as for amd...i haven't benched to much of that either. as for my 980x...it cold bugs at -140C and no warm boot bug..can reboot at like -180C i just need to get the settings down on it... 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 07:11:42
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Lucky you I can boot at pretty much any temps I get at, but if I go colder than -40c I get hard locks at any settings I have have tried, havent been able to fiddle with it much, but I have got a pretty good system for keeping it at -40 ish under dice
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 07:58:24
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really? when i ran dice i just loaded the pot up an ran with it...lol didnt know anything about a cb or a cbb then...i only found out last week what it was when i ran ln2...lol
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 08:25:55
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it may just be me but when you get a lock still in the bios before changing any settings I started to worry,it could be that something on my 758 is getting to cold, not the greatest insulation job, been looking at a 4 way classy or a p67 classy, or I may just wait and see what socket 2011 or bulldozer can pull off and stick with what I got until then
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 11:59:19
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Never had any CB or CBB until LN2. Dice is great about that. You can just dump it in the pot & go to town. Also much easier logistically then LN2.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 12:02:23
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it may just be me but when you get a lock still in the bios before changing any settings I started to worry,it could be that something on my 758 is getting to cold, not the greatest insulation job, been looking at a 4 way classy or a p67 classy, or I may just wait and see what socket 2011 or bulldozer can pull off and stick with what I got until then
Let me know if you need a new adapter plate.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 12:39:36
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Yeah, I've gotta come up with something other than eraser. Works good for my x58 board, but KP is right....transfers too much cold to surrounding parts. My smaller lga775 & p67 boards aren't fairing as well as my big 1366. They frost up real quick. Well, my 980x is off to intel. I hobbled across the finish line for forum warz with a crippled 980x. I managed some respectable scores, but not what I envisioned. Hopefully I'm back in business before the warz ends early next month, as I'd like to put some icing on dat cake 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 12:40:56
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Then I got two 3dm01 runs in on it @ 6.2Ghz....
what chip?!
That's my E8600 for 2001 runs, of course. It goes to 6.3, but I haven't gotten it there yet, lol
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 12:50:08
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hey Q, i just grabbed some of that dragon skin...testing it out now. i put it on a cheasy agp card. you know they have the old easy pull of caps and all...lol but it filled in all the gaps. im thinking ...if we cover a full gpu in it..memory chips and all...i wonder how the vreg's would fair? after fring 2 of my cards to vreg mishaps..i covered them all up with eraser, then put a nice thin thermal pad and the water block back on and never had another vreg problem again. and so far...this stuff flows way easier than liquid tape.  going to set my pot on it and freeze it down to -180C and see how it fairs then...lol with no voltage.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 14:13:40
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I would think covering the ram chips would be fine. They get cooled by the migrating cold from the gpu anyway. Vreg I'd cover around, but not over. Then put thermal paste or pad on the vreg s, then your choice of cooler on top of that. (block, heat sink,etc)
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 14:40:45
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i tried that...didn't work in the end. so now i just cover them all...but on the MB, this should butt up to the heat sink and create a seal in itself. http://www.smooth-on.com/distributor.php will give it the test when i get back home.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 14:46:19
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I saw a thread on OCN about dragon skin. And XtremeCustoms was one of the guys i remember from it. It seems like really amazing stuff! One thing they did say to be careful with was removal. They said if it gets under caps on the board, you have to be super careful when trying to get those parts off otherwise you could accidentally rip some caps off your boards.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 15:18:28
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he was the one that told me about it, but never said anything about ripping caps off.... ill have to read the rest of it.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 16:36:22
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Yea, i don't think it actually happened, but someone in that thread noted it as an observation as a possiblity if it flows under them (the caps).
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 17:22:22
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the new word is it frost over...
just like eraser does.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 17:47:44
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Tribbs
it may just be me but when you get a lock still in the bios before changing any settings I started to worry,it could be that something on my 758 is getting to cold, not the greatest insulation job, been looking at a 4 way classy or a p67 classy, or I may just wait and see what socket 2011 or bulldozer can pull off and stick with what I got until then
Let me know if you need a new adapter plate.
should be fine with mounting it on sb as it's holes are a smaller layout than x58, not sure about Bulldozer or socket 2011 though, but I have a grandpa and a few different uncles that basically own machine shops (farm's are good) that I can make something that will work
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 19:11:40
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the new word is it frost over...
just like eraser does.
Well if you think about it, it's not like it is insulating.  It is just an easier solution than eraser for keeping moisture off a board. If you want to control frost, it seems to me that closed-cell foam is the only thing, and the eraser or dragon skin or other solutions keeps what moisture appears off of components. Or you could soak everything in Vaseline, and not worry about anything, lol. 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 20:24:39
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Got a different 980 today, doesn't overclock well at all. I'm kinda about that.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/09 21:00:09
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The only thing that is going to insulate is... insualtion. I feel like I have been beating folks to death saying eraser does not insulate.
Eraser is easy, insulation is hard. Insulation > Eraser.
whats the difference between liquid tape, and the dragon skin? same stuff it looks like.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2011/02/10 07:32:43
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isn't liquid tape black and you can't see the componets? and doesn't spread well vs the other is clear and pretty much will level it's self out over a given area before setting in place.... speculation of course. and im only talking about keeping the water off the board really...others were talking about frost. and of course i use foam around the pot, matter of fact..i have a double layer of foam around the pot it self. (no shop towels - ) works petty damn good.
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