Balashark

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I'm really disappointed there's still no proper SLI profile for SWTOR.

And Nvidia and Bioware's refusal to acknowledge this problem, is really taking my patience and good will to its limit.

The game ran fine in beta, but ever since launch it's the same issue. Which goes exactly as another Quad SLI 590 user said in a 590 owners/enthusiast forum:

Shinobi Jedi, i'm getting crushes too. and right after crash only one of four GPUs continue to "work", other 3 sit at 0% load, 0.875v and nothing can make them work again except reboot. it happens roughly after 2-2.5 hours of playing and first symptoms are dissapearing textures

This is exactly what has been happening to me since the launch of this game. And to be clear, this didn't happen at all during the beta when Hi-Res textures were enabled.

This is the only game I have issues on. Everything else runs 120fps on full blast on every game, except the highest setting in Witcher 2 for AA. BF3, Skyrim, Batman - games with more complex graphics - all run better than SWTOR.

I have never OC'd these cards, I don't mess with voltages, they have been a dream except for SWTOR..

I'm ready to walk away from this game, and I'm not an MMO guy, but got into it as a Star Wars geek.  If BF3 wasn't running so rampant with cheaters, I would've already...


So I guess what I'm getting at is -

Jacob, can we get the EVGA SLI Enhancement Pimp-Jedi's to write us 590 owners, or any other SLI users experiencing this issue, a proper SLI profile for SWTOR?

After all, you guys seem to be the only ones that get the job done...

Thanks for your time and consideration, and anyone else reading, for allowing me to rant/vent on this issue.

Cheers!

Same problem here. With the other problems that are too numerous to mention I unsubed today with all the other players that are leaving this mess of a game in droves. You will too!

The population has grown @20% since release but...Apparently people are leaving in droves -- 
 
The driver situation/SLI profile is not an issue of Bioware's ~ It's one of Nvidias -- Same goes for the lack of a profile for the past few months on BF3 -- And the same goes for the current lack of driver support with the 590.
 
Oh wait, I forgot -- Obviously Bioware is capable of releasing a WHQL update specifically for the 590, sorry!!!

maniacvvv

There is a 100% perfectly working automatic BF3 SLI profile built into all nvidia driversets, has been since 285.62


Not sure why you would say there is not

Because in regards to the topic at hand, the GTX 590, there isn't one...And I didn't mean fan profile, I said SLI profile...Which, there isn't one.

Downloaded n installed. Thanks

maskedmenace

maniacvvv

There is a 100% perfectly working automatic BF3 SLI profile built into all nvidia driversets, has been since 285.62


Not sure why you would say there is not

Because in regards to the topic at hand, the GTX 590, there isn't one...And I didn't mean fan profile, I said SLI profile...Which, there isn't one.

LOL, games don't have 'fan profiles' in the driver...come on. BF3 has a profile for SLI which includes 2 way, 3 way, 4 way and Quad. Some titles scale better than others in SLI.

maniacvvv There certainly is. Proper testing will show this to be correct, set the SLI setting in the Global tab to "Nvidia Recommended" and you are now using the custom BF3 profile .exe hardcoded into the driver. 
Now for configs above tri SLI, there are scaling issues... but a correct and working SLI profile is included in the driver

Unfortunately, I know droves and droves of people that would disagree and a whole horde at Guru.
 
Just because it says a profile exists, doesn't mean it works which, I believe you'll find from the community, it doesn't.
 
That's my point. -- Regardless of scaling (which is terrible) my 2x580's actually perform significantly better than my 590, we're not talking 20-30 or even 40% ~ We're talking 50-60% better...Which indicates to the "community at large" that, it's not working.
 
This has actually been an ongoing issue, especially on OCN and reported many times over to Nvidia.
 
In fact, if you'd like I can provide you with a list of games for which, if you actually extracted the WHQL yourself and looked within the file -- You'd find nothing is/was there other than it's namesake...Thus my issue and the issue at hand.
 
EDIT: And 590 fan profiles were actually added last WHQL...It took them 10 months to add that...

maniacvvv *Here are the Release notes
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/295.73/295.73-Win7-WinVista-Desktop-Release-Notes.pdf

Thanks for the direct link!

maniacvvv
LOLOL

You dont know what you bought
Of course (2) 580's perform better than a 590....
The 590 is a nerfed dual GPU card, with driver restrictions and hardware OCP. While the 590 is a great card, it is certainly NOT two 580's and never will be, not even close. 

You clearly do not understand Nvidia driversets, Nvidia hardware and proper testing procedures.

Now I remember why I don't come here anymore...Public ignorance.
 
The Nvidia GTX 590 when OC'd (like mine is) and unlocked (like mine is) and when water cooled (again, like mine is) doesn't meet the same issues as the regulars.
 
My 590 is at .996V @800MHZ 24/7 and I actually come within 8% of stock 580's...In fact, when benching, I'm within 5% of stock 580's in SLI...Go figure.
 
Oh wait, according to you that's a bigger gap...Well, realistically, looking at anything done by [H], HC, Swe etc...It's a 20% difference...Still 20% =/= 60%.
 
An 8% bench difference does NOT under any circumstances equal a 60% performance gap...I'm sorry but, if you fail to see the disconnect there, not even god can help you.
 
A 10% performance difference, expected, 20%, again,not dismissed, 30-60 as users report? No.
 
In my case, the 60% difference? No, even remedial math can address this issue.
 
The driver does NOT and has NOT actually supported the card thus, we've all made our own drivers -- Well, those of us that could (Do I need to say it again or do you get where I'm going yet?) and even with the modified WHQL and the BF3 profile, it's clear that all the file is, is literally just the name...The profile does little/nothing to actually address any performance issues and/or address any real problem the original user had.
 
I don't care what you claim, what you think I bought (I didn't actually pay for these cards...Courtesy of the job) or you ignorance in the topic at hand -- I care about a community "left behind" and if you actually asked them, they'd agree.
 
The profiles that exist for the 590, don't actually work and when/if they do work, it's minuscule. 
 
Now, considering I have to re-take 5 Certificates in the next 3 weeks, if you'd like me to tutor you in remedial math and how a product 20% behind shouldn't perform 60% behind...I'll more than happily take your money.

maniacvvv

Proper testing would show that your voltage and clocks are causing the Pstates to micro pulse
*(as they are designed to do on a 590)...
This is causing the performance delta you are seeing.

Enjoy your 590 and its performance levels using your expert skills.

Have a nice day

Actually it's not because even stock, I see the same issue.
 
The VRM choke on the 590 is at 1.05 ~ Which is not only documented by Nvidia but, the pulse doesn't start until 1.00 thus, the .996/.987...Now, we can go back/forth about this all day but, it doesn't fix the issue which, is the performance gap that the average user still experiences.
 
The "performance delta" (well put, btw) is actually something that every end user is seeing even at .936 (stock) -- So this isn't a matter of any hardware, it's a matter of performance...But, I do appreciate the actual intelligent conversation we're NOW having (after 3 posts)...Thanks much 

Is it a bug in my installation or a general bug?
There is no SLI configuration in the NVIDIA Control Panel. Only PhysX. The last WHQL had SLI configuration.
And under 3D-Settings there is no SL-Rendering-Mode Option.
As if this driver does not know SLI.

I am excited to see new drivers but as others indicated, still no love for SWTOR.  There are still LOTS of people playing.  I love these guys who leave (a game) then tell the world that everyone is following them.
 
Anyhow, I can't wait to check these out.

yay
 
maybe finally we have another useful driverset from nvidia! I see not much of complains so far a good sign
 
gosh, it took them a while to make it happen though ... maybe another good thing about it
 
will be installing and hoping that I can finally remote connect to my desktop with new drivers, because former WHQL are broken and do not work in any kind of remote session at all (RDC and teamviewer sessions can't connect when former WHQL are installed on host).

@headshawtz
You have the same problem as me. Did You solve it mean while?
 
@Nahte27
Could be an option, thanx. I will wait a bit and see if more SLI-user encounter this bug.

Running two GTX275 1792MB SLI with the new WHQL drivers.  No time to test games due to mid-terms this week, but I had about five Google Chrome windows open and the drivers failed on me.  Only happened once so I am going to keep on giving it a chance until I have time to test out some games.

OMG!! I just installed the 295.51 beta yesterday and it runs soo smooth....
 
Downloading...

SirWaWa

I really enjoyed reading this part:
 

Battlefield 3

• Fixes instances of texture corruption/artifacts in Battlefield 3 when memory constrained (typically 1GB or less graphics cards running Ultra settings and high resolutions).

After just some minor testing, I can confirm there "appears" to have been some very positive changes to the Texture Quality pool(s) and streaming performance.
 
I will be doing more serious testing and then posting my results in my BF3 Guide thread, sometime in the next few days.