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2016/06/13 15:13:06 (permalink)
Games that I have played fine are now starting to crash after my upgrade to the 1080. I can get about maybe 15 - 30 mins of GTA5 online play before unexpected closure. Sims 3 I know has always had issues but the crashes were never this frequent, could play hours at a time before and now it's less than an hour. Never had issues with Black Desert online and now that closes with no error to report. Those are the few I've noticed not working anymore. I've done a complete wipe of the graphics drivers and installed them fresh. If anyone can help me figure this out that would be wonderful.
 
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:24:33 (permalink)
    I'm sorry to hear that you are having this kind of issue but I have never experienced anything like this. My computer hasn't crashed at all and I have been playing for weeks GtaV, Witcher3, NfS, Bco3, etc... I hope one of these helpful guys can help you.

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:31:29 (permalink)
    Do a fresh clean install of Windows. It will erase your problems, wiping the drivers clean wont do much.

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:37:40 (permalink)
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    Games that I have played fine are now starting to crash after my upgrade to the 1080. I can get about maybe 15 - 30 mins of GTA5 online play before unexpected closure. Sims 3 I know has always had issues but the crashes were never this frequent, could play hours at a time before and now it's less than an hour. Never had issues with Black Desert online and now that closes with no error to report. Those are the few I've noticed not working anymore. I've done a complete wipe of the graphics drivers and installed them fresh. If anyone can help me figure this out that would be wonderful.
     
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    Welcome to the Forum Valdamon
    Did you update the Bios on your Motherboard?
    Are you Overclocking your CPU?
    Have you reset the Bios back to the Default or Optimized Settings?
    Did you just remove your old card and install the new card?
    Or did you remove the old card Drivers and then remove the old card?
    What was your old card?
    Do you have MSI AB or EVGA PrecisionX 16 installed if so did you remove the software?
    EVGA PrecisionX 16 is NOT support nor is the current MSI AB, you need to use EVGA Precision XOC and their is a Beta Version out their somewhere.
    What is the Full Model Number of your GTX 1080?
    What is the Driver Number you are running on your GTX 1080?
     
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:39:45 (permalink)
    Wow! Wipe put your operating system to install a graphics card? Seems a bit harsh, especially if you have many important programs and settings that would all need to be set up again. I hope I don't run into this when I get my card.

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:41:35 (permalink)
    Sad to say but with the OP is on Windows 10 he may not have a choice.
     
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    Do a fresh clean install of Windows. It will erase your problems, wiping the drivers clean wont do much.


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    Wow! Wipe put your operating system to install a graphics card? Seems a bit harsh, especially if you have many important programs and settings that would all need to be set up again. I hope I don't run into this when I get my card.





    Then the OP needs to do some troubleshooting right D-007
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    That is an unacceptable "fix".
    Changing a gpu should not result in a necessary clean install of a whole OS. That's beyond ridiculous..

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:42:26 (permalink)
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    Do a fresh clean install of Windows. It will erase your problems, wiping the drivers clean wont do much.




    That is an unacceptable "fix".
    Changing a gpu should not result in a necessary clean install of a whole OS. That's beyond ridiculous..

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:52:50 (permalink)
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    Games that I have played fine are now starting to crash after my upgrade to the 1080. I can get about maybe 15 - 30 mins of GTA5 online play before unexpected closure. Sims 3 I know has always had issues but the crashes were never this frequent, could play hours at a time before and now it's less than an hour. Never had issues with Black Desert online and now that closes with no error to report. Those are the few I've noticed not working anymore. I've done a complete wipe of the graphics drivers and installed them fresh. If anyone can help me figure this out that would be wonderful.
     
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    Welcome to the Forum
    Did you update the Bios on your Motherboard?
    Are you Overclocking your CPU?
    Have you reset the Bios back to the Default or Optimized Settings?
    Did you just remove your old card and install the new card?
    Or did you remove the old card Drivers and then remove the old card?
    What was your old card?
    Do you have MSI AB or EVGA PrecisionX 16 installed if so did you remove the software?
    EVGA PrecisionX 16 is NOT support nor is the current MSI AB, you need to use  and their is a Beta Version out their somewhere.
    What is the Full Model Number of your GTX 1080?
    What is the Driver Number you are running on your GTX 1080?
     


    I'll try updating the bios. I didn't think such a thing would have a such an effect on video games or is it more for the graphics card?
    I am not overclocking
    Bios is on default settings
    I removed the old card, put the new one in and updated the drivers. After the issues with games crashing I did a complete wipe of the graphics drivers and installed again.
    Old card was an evga 680 4gb
    I installed EVGA Precision XOC after the crashing started thinking the card was overheating. But in some of the games it crashed on that was not the issue as temps were within normal range.
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 15:56:34 (permalink)
    A clean install might not be a bad idea, but it is something I would like to put off for at least a couple more months. I upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7. I also have around 2 terabytes of stuff, the majority being games that I'll have to set a weekend aside to set everything back up.
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 16:04:44 (permalink)
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    A clean install might not be a bad idea, but it is something I would like to put off for at least a couple more months. I upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7. I also have around 2 terabytes of stuff, the majority being games that I'll have to set a weekend aside to set everything back up.


    Remember that you only have a few more days for that Free Windows 10 upgrade from Windows 7!
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 16:12:26 (permalink)
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    Valdamon
    A clean install might not be a bad idea, but it is something I would like to put off for at least a couple more months. I upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7. I also have around 2 terabytes of stuff, the majority being games that I'll have to set a weekend aside to set everything back up.


    Remember that you only have a few more days for that Free Windows 10 upgrade from Windows 7!
    Remember to remove all your Hard Drives and leave Only the OS Boot Drive in your computer if you reinstall Windows 7 then upgrade it to Windows 10!


    I upgraded a few months ago. For those that don't know, if you upgrade you can roll back to Windows 7 but after 30 days it will delete you Windows 7 backup and your key is associated with Windows 10. The free upgrade ends July 29th. I'm a gamer at heart so I went ahead and upgraded so I can have DirectX 12.


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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 16:17:42 (permalink)
    Checked my bios and it is the latest version.
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 16:21:11 (permalink)
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    Do a fresh clean install of Windows. It will erase your problems, wiping the drivers clean wont do much.




    That is an unacceptable "fix".
    Changing a gpu should not result in a necessary clean install of a whole OS. That's beyond ridiculous..


    Ok, so lets see your suggestions then. Just a fyi for the many members experiencing the crash in games, I discovered my crashing of Doom lately: game freezing, black screen, sound playing in the back, pressing Ctrl + Alt + Delete to comeback to desktop being unresponsive, was the cause of letting Windows Update install the new drivers in my machine over the old ones.
    After I carefully read everything in my control panel and date of the apps installed, i noticed that the display drivers date of installation didn't match with the 3D Drivers and Vulcan Run time libraries date. Which brings my point to perform a fresh clean install of windows due to the fact that the OP, on his own words, already stated that he wiped clean the drivers? If that was the case, then why the crashes still exist?  In my opinion, you either reinstall the games again, or just simply reinstall windows. If not, I'll go grab the popcorn so i can wait for your marvelous reply.

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 17:24:30 (permalink)
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    I've done a complete wipe of the graphics drivers and installed them fresh.

    How did you go about doing this?
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 17:47:46 (permalink)
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    I've done a complete wipe of the graphics drivers and installed them fresh.

    How did you go about doing this?


    Revo Uninstaller. After uninstalling it also searches for any traces of any type left over to delete as well.


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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 17:54:46 (permalink)
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    I've done a complete wipe of the graphics drivers and installed them fresh.

    How did you go about doing this?


    Revo Uninstaller. After uninstalling it also searches for any traces of any type left over to delete as well.




    Do #1 & #2 listed here then go test your games. Report back with your results.
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 18:10:46 (permalink)
    I unfortunately have to get up super early for work. I'll try this after work tomorrow. Thanks.
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 18:15:14 (permalink)
    Because you have had issues in the past, just not as bad... It sounds like the issue is elsewhere. Never clean install, it is NEVER the answer. I don't care what anyone says, I have always fixed my issues without a clean install. 
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 19:05:25 (permalink)
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    Because you have had issues in the past, just not as bad... It sounds like the issue is elsewhere. Never clean install, it is NEVER the answer. I don't care what anyone says, I have always fixed my issues without a clean install. 


    That may be so, but some people are not that lucky, nor are they "chrisdglong". Some people, unfortunately, resort to redoing windows because it does "fix" them. I'll agree with your statement, however, when it comes to some crazy BSODs or some very bad viruses which lead you to not be able to boot into windows (go figure) require a clean install (some viruses will cause most of all anti-viruses to fail).

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/13 19:41:39 (permalink)
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    Because you have had issues in the past, just not as bad... It sounds like the issue is elsewhere. Never clean install, it is NEVER the answer. I don't care what anyone says, I have always fixed my issues without a clean install. 


    That may be so, but some people are not that lucky, nor are they "chrisdglong". Some people, unfortunately, resort to redoing windows because it does "fix" them. I'll agree with your statement, however, when it comes to some crazy BSODs or some very bad viruses which lead you to not be able to boot into windows (go figure) require a clean install (some viruses will cause most of all anti-viruses to fail).


    Virus, absolutely wipe the drive. 
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 08:06:13 (permalink)
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    Because you have had issues in the past, just not as bad... It sounds like the issue is elsewhere. Never clean install, it is NEVER the answer. I don't care what anyone says, I have always fixed my issues without a clean install. 

    Only reoccurring issue from the past is Sims 3. That's always had issues from day one, that's just on developer side, there is a sea of forums for issues with it. Just poor development and now lack of updates for it. Wife used to play hours on end and just saved frequently. But after the card upgrade it seems she can't play for more than an hour now. Reinstalling OS is an absolute all else fails solution.
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 11:42:46 (permalink)
    Black Ops 3 keeps crashing on me... :(

     
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 13:28:23 (permalink)
    In order to help my fellow gamer out, I'd be willing to take one for the team and swap my 960 4gb which is working just fine for your horrible crashing 1080. Just send me a PM with address and I'll help a brother out. Because it's you.

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 13:28:55 (permalink)
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    In order to help my fellow gamer out, I'd be willing to take one for the team and swap my 960 4gb which is working just fine for your horrible crashing 1080. Just send me a PM with address and I'll help a brother out. Because it's you.



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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 15:51:57 (permalink)
    Here is what i found out after using Ccleaner to clean my registry:
     
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 16:30:10 (permalink)
    Could be a gpu problem....    I got a asus super overclock one time and it did same thing kept crashing but I lowered the clocks on the card and it was fine
     
    I doubt much testing is done to see whether a gpu is stable before it gets slapped into a card
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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 20:49:18 (permalink)
    What power supply are you using and how old it is??
     

    I had an issue when I first got my GTX780Ti after upgrading from a GTX660 where it would crash most games after 5-10 minutes..   I returned the first 780Ti to the store and got a replacement, but the next one did the same thing.   I figured it has to be another problem at that point.  Went through tons of troubleshooting, reinstalling Windows, even replaced my hard drive, did a full memory test with memtest86.   Anyway I put back in my GTX660 and the crashing problems stopped completely.   So at that point the only things I hadn't touched were Motherboard, CPU & Power Supply.   As I wasn't having crashing with anything else it really pointed toward my PSU having problems with the new card.
     
    Nvidia recommends a 600W for 780Ti...   Anyway at the time I had some Generic 650W power supply I bought at on sale for like $15.  At the time I didn't really think it mattered as long as the rated power was enough.   
    Well apparently some cheap power supplies can struggle to even supply half their rated power, see this for example: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/how-much-power-can-a-generic-500-w-power-supply-really-deliver/
    They tested a 500W power supply and it could just barely supply 250W power, completely failed when they hit ~275W.
     
    So basically it was more like I had a ~325-375W power supply...   a GTX 780Ti can draw almost 260-270W just for the card.  So when the card would hit peak power draw it the power supply would really struggle to supply enough power and would crash the game or driver.  I think I remember having my PC just flat out turn off once too.  Anyway I went out and purchased a Corsair 750W power supply..   problems went away completely!   It worked great for many years and is actually still in service in my Mom's PC now.   LOL
     
     
    I hadn't seen your power supply mentioned at all and as you have an older system might not have enough juice to supply for a GTX1080 card.

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 21:27:09 (permalink)
    Older power supplies didn't dedicate enough 12v current. Newer power supplies put the full wattage into the 12v line that PCIE and GPUs use. That's why generic power supplies can't put out enough juice for modern GPUs.


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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/14 22:42:27 (permalink)
    atfrico
    Do a fresh clean install of Windows. It will erase your problems, wiping the drivers clean wont do much.




    ^^ This makes me chuckle every time.  Thank you.
     
     
    This is not a good way to start a troubleshooting process.. There are MANY other options that should, and need to be taken before really having to do a clean install of Windows.  That route should be a last resort if everything else fails.  But, that's the easy advice to give if you don't know how to troubleshoot properly.  
     
    I am quite confident the EVGA community here in the forums can offer some better alternatives.. which they already have.  :)

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    Re: Games are starting to crash with 1080 2016/06/15 01:43:57 (permalink)
    I have to agree With Shadowdane , in most cases its the powersupply not being able to handle the draw from cpu/gpu/mobo when gaming for more than 5-15min its starts to fluctuate and boom ur game crashes your pc cries out in a banshee squeel and you hard reset thinking me conflicts.... when in truth its the PSU not pulling its weight..
     
    If you have an extra PSU 500w or something around test with that you could also go really techy and power your gpu with 1 PSU rest of the PC with the other 1 ;) yes i know i used to be a service technician ;) 
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