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Will an X58-MB support the 1080? I want to build a new high end system, but it will be a "phased" event...dont want to go all out for new MB/HD/Case/Processor/ect. In the mean time...I DO want to get some more life out of my trusty X58 SLI 3 board with 950 OCed to 4GHz /w 28GB RAM.
post edited by KrashKorse - 2016/05/17 08:40:00
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/05/17 08:39:34
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upgrade board processor ram due to bottleneck
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/05/18 23:45:28
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would just grab a gtx 1070 instead considering what you have now, not sure if its gonna bottleneck probably should upgrade cpu and motherboard eventually anyway.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/05/19 01:24:35
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Get 1080 on X58. Because why not. Bottlenecking card is a non-issue as there is no VGA on the market that can saturate Gen.2 x16 bandwidth (let alone Gen.3) while playing games. Period.
My 970 is not even close to saturating the bus on my X58 (and I'm running always BONIC in the background!). Granted you'll benefit greatly from new platform for CPU intensive tasks, but don't worry about VGA bottleneck. You would have to literally disable like 4-6 threads out of 8 to see any difference in performance. Basically turning CPU into equivalent of todays i3. X58 has a lot of life in it. "Bottleneckmongering" cannot win with hard facts.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/05/19 04:57:13
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Granted the card will run on x58 but will whole lot better on newer hardware. I upgraded from x58 to x99 and was well worth it.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/05/19 09:45:41
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You'll be fine if you have i7.
I would go on GTX1080 and overclock CPU as much possible.
Later when you upgrade graphic card immediately plan to replace platform in near feature.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/05/19 11:43:25
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If you have a six core i7 first generation, at least PCIE 3.0, Sata III/6 and DDR3 1600 ram even 1333 you will be more than good with no real bottleneck on the x58 but keep in mind ram that speed you will have to have an SSD to compensate. If you OC that CPU you have now a good deal 4ghz you will be fine FYI. PCIE 3.0 will just give you an extra few frames.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/05/19 11:47:42
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Time to move on from your EVGA X58 Motherboard. 
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/15 19:48:24
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I'm using EVGA FTW 1080 on X58 board and it works fine. I've graphed/monitored the bus usage and every other meter and played with a lot of settings.
Almost every x58 cpu will overclock to 4ghz and you can get them for $50 or less on ebay with 4 or 6 cores. (4 core e5620 is $10 and it flies at 4ghz)
I'm using a 6 core at 4ghz and the only time i ever see a cpu bottleneck on the 1080 is when the program isn't multithreaded enough and it's maxing out 1 or 2 cores at the most and not using the others.. in that case you run into an IPC limitation (the newer cpus have 30% more IPC), and also extensions like AVX will come into play eventually in games, but for now I have no problems on the x58 setup.
PCIE 2.0 bus barely gets used I think i've seen 20-30% utilization at some points probably downloading textures
Games which are threaded properly have no issue maxing out the GPU utilization as far as I have noticed, but I'm also in 1440p so maybe lower res would be more noticable.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/15 22:40:35
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I have an Alienware Area 51 ALX (2010 model). X58 MB, I7 980x CPU oced to 4.0 and a EVGA FTW 1080. I play at 1080P. I was expecting issues, stutters, bottlenecks, etc given the dated hardware and PCIe 2.0, not 3.0.
No issues, no stutters, and the FTW 1080 is always at high 90's usage. Most if not all ultra settings at 1080P and very high frame rates. The performance improvements compared to previous Asus 770's in SLI are amazing, even with this X58.
But I agree this card deserves a better home. Maybe an LGA 1151 MB and an I7 6700K. Sadly this proprietary Dell Alienware will have trouble with that. Time to pass it to a nephew or something.
Off topic, but I'm thinking of the Asus Rog Maximus VIII MB to go with Skylake. I'm on a budget and it's $460 CDN. Can't do much more. If anyone has better recommendations please let me know.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/15 23:45:56
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I had the same board and was told by 2nd level tech support here at EVGA, anything past the 700 series will not work as it should with some cpu cores topping out in the X58 Classified 3X SLi, So upgrade and go with the Z170 Classified K and your EVGA 1000 series cards will work awesome with no performance issues! 
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/16 06:18:57
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I can share some benchmarks if you want :D
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/16 06:36:11
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KrashKorse, what do you want to do that your current GPU is holding you back ? One would think, with time the 10 series will come down in price or go on sale. You will get the best bang for you buck by adding a SSD drive. You will see and feel the SSD speed increase in day to day use. Unless you have a high end monitor, your new GPU will not be tasked at 1080p. Only 6G of RAM, might be more of an issue with better GPU - ? Just my $0.02
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/16 12:44:57
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I upgraded my bios on my X-58 and then upgraded to an xeon w3690 "$150 on Fleabay". Oced it to 4.2 and dropped a 1080 sc in there np, except,I had six gigs of ram, AB was showing 5.1 gigs being used so I dropped 12 gigs in there and x-58 plays smooth as silk. BF4 on ulta settings at 1080p 120hz will push the 6 core cpu to about 80%. BF4 plays well with more cores. GL
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/29 10:27:43
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I blame EVGA for this  . I like my FTW 1080 so much I decided to give it a better home than the Alienware Area 51 ALX with an X58 MB and PCI E 2.0. That's a $2,000 CDN (including 16% sales tax) new home for all new parts except the hard drives and sound card. The FTW seems very happy in its new home doing a light show competition with that Asus Maximus VIII Formula MB, which I can now see as this case has a clear panel. Sweet, other than my kraft dinner and salad diet this month paying that new home off.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/29 11:14:20
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KrashKorse
Will an X58-MB support the 1080? I want to build a new high end system, but it will be a "phased" event...dont want to go all out for new MB/HD/Case/Processor/ect. In the mean time...I DO want to get some more life out of my trusty X58 SLI 3 board with 950 OCed to 4GHz /w 28GB RAM. Yes. I'm typing this on an X58 system running a Xeon 5680 (6-core 3.3 ghz cpu overclocked to 4.1ghz) with 12gb of RAM and an EVGA 1080 SC and it's running just fine. If you ran your 950 at the same clockspeed it would probably perform almost the same (smaller L3 cache than my Xeon so not quite the same) in most games. Here are some benchmark results showing my personal best results using the 1080 SC overclocked (water cooled with EK block): Fire Strike Ultra 1.1: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9924810 Time Spy: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/342566 Don't listen to the haters. In actual games I see within 3-5 fps of what folks see using the latest and greatest cpus. Also, on eBay right now starting at just over $100 you can find the Xeon W3680, which is like my Xeon 5680, but has an unlocked multiplier. My locked multiplier complicates my overclocking by forcing me to raise bclock instead. That would be a good, cheap upgrade, assuming your motherboard with latest bios will run it. My MSI Big Bang X-Power X58 board didn't say it would recognize the Xeon 5680, but it did and it's been running fine for the last year.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/29 11:34:30
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I'd also like to chime in, I'm currently using a i7-980x @4.2GHz on a X58 Classified3, 24GB DDR3 with a GTX 1080 FTW. Card works flawlessly, and scores just as high as everyone else in Time Spy, etc. Sure a new platforms may be more ideal. In the case of my processor it still hangs in there with the latest tech six years later (2010 build). I'll eventually make a upgrade but the stability of the X58 classified series is without question reliable.
post edited by zadinex - 2016/08/29 11:37:22
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/29 12:27:54
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zadinex
I'd also like to chime in, I'm currently using a i7-980x @4.2GHz on a X58 Classified3, 24GB DDR3 with a GTX 1080 FTW. Card works flawlessly, and scores just as high as everyone else in Time Spy, etc. Sure a new platforms may be more ideal. In the case of my processor it still hangs in there with the latest tech six years later (2010 build). I'll eventually make a upgrade but the stability of the X58 classified series is without question reliable. Your system is very close to the same as mine. While my machine is running just fine, and I can't really justify this on performance grounds, I'm in the midst of a rebuild right now, using an i7 6900/FTW K/32gb DDR4 3200. I should have it done by the end of the week or so. I'll run all the game tests and benchmarks and whatnot and be able to actually quantify what the improvement is over these systems. I freely admit this upgrade wasn't necessary. I just wanted to do it, and I got a killer deal on the i7 6900 from a friend, so I couldn't resist. But yeah, my X58 system has been a real champ for me. I can only hope that my i7 6900 system serves me as long and as well as the X58 machine has.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/29 12:39:44
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sethleigh
KrashKorse
Will an X58-MB support the 1080? I want to build a new high end system, but it will be a "phased" event...dont want to go all out for new MB/HD/Case/Processor/ect. In the mean time...I DO want to get some more life out of my trusty X58 SLI 3 board with 950 OCed to 4GHz /w 28GB RAM.
Yes. I'm typing this on an X58 system running a Xeon 5680 (6-core 3.3 ghz cpu overclocked to 4.1ghz) with 12gb of RAM and an EVGA 1080 SC and it's running just fine. If you ran your 950 at the same clockspeed it would probably perform almost the same (smaller L3 cache than my Xeon so not quite the same) in most games.
Here are some benchmark results showing my personal best results using the 1080 SC overclocked (water cooled with EK block):
Fire Strike Ultra 1.1: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9924810
Time Spy: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/342566
Don't listen to the haters. In actual games I see within 3-5 fps of what folks see using the latest and greatest cpus.
Also, on eBay right now starting at just over $100 you can find the Xeon W3680, which is like my Xeon 5680, but has an unlocked multiplier. My locked multiplier complicates my overclocking by forcing me to raise bclock instead. That would be a good, cheap upgrade, assuming your motherboard with latest bios will run it. My MSI Big Bang X-Power X58 board didn't say it would recognize the Xeon 5680, but it did and it's been running fine for the last year.
MSI Big Bang X-Power X58 board = great MB - mine is still strong.  My Z97 was not a big improvement; though my X99 has some advantages
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/29 13:12:56
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Cool GTX
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KrashKorse
Will an X58-MB support the 1080? I want to build a new high end system, but it will be a "phased" event...dont want to go all out for new MB/HD/Case/Processor/ect. In the mean time...I DO want to get some more life out of my trusty X58 SLI 3 board with 950 OCed to 4GHz /w 28GB RAM.
Yes. I'm typing this on an X58 system running a Xeon 5680 (6-core 3.3 ghz cpu overclocked to 4.1ghz) with 12gb of RAM and an EVGA 1080 SC and it's running just fine. If you ran your 950 at the same clockspeed it would probably perform almost the same (smaller L3 cache than my Xeon so not quite the same) in most games.
Here are some benchmark results showing my personal best results using the 1080 SC overclocked (water cooled with EK block):
Fire Strike Ultra 1.1: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9924810
Time Spy: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/342566
Don't listen to the haters. In actual games I see within 3-5 fps of what folks see using the latest and greatest cpus.
Also, on eBay right now starting at just over $100 you can find the Xeon W3680, which is like my Xeon 5680, but has an unlocked multiplier. My locked multiplier complicates my overclocking by forcing me to raise bclock instead. That would be a good, cheap upgrade, assuming your motherboard with latest bios will run it. My MSI Big Bang X-Power X58 board didn't say it would recognize the Xeon 5680, but it did and it's been running fine for the last year.
MSI Big Bang X-Power X58 board = great MB - mine is still strong.
My Z97 was not a big improvement; though my X99 has some advantages
Yuppers I'm using the same board from my 2010 build "MSI BB Xpwr. Really I see no need to upgrade for quite awhile. As long as I can push those FPS I'm a happy man.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/30 12:42:38
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Cool GTX
specialkone
I blame EVGA for this. I like my FTW 1080 so much I decided to give it a better home than the Alienware Area 51 ALX with an X58 MB and PCI E 2.0. That's a $2,000 CDN (including 16% sales tax) new home for all new parts except the hard drives and sound card.
The FTW seems very happy in its new home doing a light show competition with that Asus Maximus VIII Formula MB, which I can now see as this case has a clear panel. Sweet, other than my kraft dinner and salad diet this month paying that new home off.
Need to post some pictures - sounds sweet
Can't be bothered joining a hosting site to post pics. Check out post #502 on the ten forums. (link below). Sadly, those smart phone pics don't come close to showing how good the changing color show looks. (Color Show = Asus Maximus VIII Formula MB and the EVGA FTW 1080). http://www.tenforums.com/pc-custom-builds-overclocking/1683-show-off-your-pc-51.html PS: and a good 1,000+ increase in Firestrike score by giving the EVGA FTW 1080 that new home. It's happy, I'm happy.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/08/30 13:07:09
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In my signature look at Rig #1. It's an X58 system that is now running two GTX 980 Classifieds in SLI. That system runs awesome, smooth, and cool. The CPU is a Core-i7 950 clocked to 4.01GHz and the memory is clocked to 2,000 MHz. The GTX 980s run a 4K screen. The CPU is not my bottleneck, the video cards are. Slap that 1080 into your X58 system and start your new build.
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Re: GTX1080 on X58
2016/09/07 13:41:07
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Agreed. x58 is still an amazing platform. The major disadvantages being no USB 3.0 (on most) and no SATA 3 (on most).
My Classified E759 with x5650 Xeon 6-core and 980Ti. The system hangs with a z97 system and 980Ti no problem. Can it run crysis? Yes it can. Can it run 4K in SLI? Yes it can, quite smoothly as well with high settings. It's not even close to saturating the PCIE bandwidth.
Maybe 1-3 fps less than a newer system.
A GTX 1080 will run just fine on x58. It won't saturate the PCI-E bandwidth. Hell you could even do 1080 SLI and not lose much performance (maybe 5-7 fps lost max).
Go for it.
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