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GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked?

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2014/09/20 10:51:10 (permalink)
As there are some cards available at this moment I'd like to know what is the advantage of SC. Are the chips preselected and better? Are they louder and hotter?

  


 
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 11:14:08 (permalink)
    SC means that it is overclocked ever so slightly from the factory, through a bios option. If it wasn't stable at the prescribed overclock, it is dropped back to standard clocks, and sold as a standard card.

    With that said, not every card is attempted, so that doesn't automatically mean the card didn't overclock well. If you like money buy the regular card and overclock it youeself. If you hate money and want it gone, buy the SC. I
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 11:21:09 (permalink)
    I can bet at least 20% of chips can't finish in Superclocked versions.
    I'm glad EVGA keep tradition between 150-200MHz OC depend on model...
    Classified and FTW version will be very close to 200MHz OC out of box.
    For me is that most important, that's best feeling. I feel than as launched model even 10-15-20% stronger.
    In this case GTX980 SC ACX 2.0 will be faster than ANY GTX780Ti on market, reference GTX980 not.
     
     
     
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 11:31:55 (permalink)
    I just bought 2 GTX980 from newegg 10 minutes ago.

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 12:21:26 (permalink)
    Congrats! And enjoy Mine will be arriving Tuesday. Monday with any luck lol

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 12:58:22 (permalink)
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    I just bought 2 GTX980 from newegg 10 minutes ago.




    So, come on, be a bad boy! Please be so kind and post some benchies for us when you're ready with installation. Even outdated 3dMark 11 Performance would be highly interesting for me. And Unigine.
     
    What draws me back to order right now is a red and blue pill from amd, if you know what I mean...
     

    I can bet at least 20% of chips can't finish in Superclocked versions.
    I'm glad EVGA keep tradition between 150-200MHz OC depend on model...
    Classified and FTW version will be very close to 200MHz OC out of box.
    For me is that most important, that's best feeling. I feel than as launched model even 10-15-20% stronger.
    In this case GTX980 SC ACX 2.0 will be faster than ANY GTX780Ti on market, reference GTX980 not.

     
    Yes, I can imagine as my first GTX 680 was a benchie leader for months here. Second was just middle-rate. What I want to avoid is a card that is overclocked but inefficient. I've owned a mediocre GTX570 SC version already, which I've changed for the stock version, which worked much better.  
     

    SC means that it is overclocked ever so slightly from the factory, through a bios option. If it wasn't stable at the prescribed overclock, it is dropped back to standard clocks, and sold as a standard card.
    With that said, not every card is attempted, so that doesn't automatically mean the card didn't overclock well. If you like money buy the regular card and overclock it yourself. If you hate money and want it gone, buy the SC. 

     
    Nice to meet a guy from that far away. Reminds me of a guy from your country I've played GTA IV for a while. What the SC concerns it's not for the money but for the stability, reliability and silence in desktop-use. So obviously the SC-chips are chosen. 
    Maybe there are some owners meanwhile which can share their experience with us.
    post edited by Max Silencio - 2014/09/20 13:01:46

      


     
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 13:47:44 (permalink)
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    I just bought 2 GTX980 from newegg 10 minutes ago.


    Your signature says that you have two EVGA GTX Titans.  Will the GTX 980's actually be a step upward for you?  I would have thought the Titans would be quicker than the 980's.
    (I just ordered two EVGA GTX 980 Superclocked cards off of Newegg a few minutes ago, but I'm going up, (I hope), from SLI GTX 780 vanilla models.)

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 17:05:58 (permalink)
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    I just bought 2 GTX980 from newegg 10 minutes ago.


    Your signature says that you have two EVGA GTX Titans.  Will the GTX 980's actually be a step upward for you?  I would have thought the Titans would be quicker than the 980's.
    (I just ordered two EVGA GTX 980 Superclocked cards off of Newegg a few minutes ago, but I'm going up, (I hope), from SLI GTX 780 vanilla models.)


    These are the first Titan's that came out. I had them for quite some time now. I always buy new hardware when available. I will sell these 2 Titan's once the GTX 980 come and see how they perform.

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/20 17:08:27 (permalink)
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    I just bought 2 GTX980 from newegg 10 minutes ago.




    So, come on, be a bad boy! Please be so kind and post some benchies for us when you're ready with installation. Even outdated 3dMark 11 Performance would be highly interesting for me. And Unigine.
     
    What draws me back to order right now is a red and blue pill from amd, if you know what I mean...
     

    I will do some benches for you on Wednesday since I have to work all day on Tuesday.

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/21 05:21:24 (permalink)
    I got my EVGA GTX 980 SC from Scan UK yesterday as an upgrade to my 16 month old EVGA GTX 780.
     
    I'm very pleased with the overall performance increase of around 25-30% in the games and benchmarks I've ran so far but I've encountered a few driver crashes while benchmarking unfortunately ("Driver has stopped responding and recovered" errors) which I never had on my GTX 780 unless I overclocked too far (I used a core offset of +100 MHz and a memory offset of +50 MHz). This SC model has a default core clock of 1,240 MHz according to GPU-Z v0.7.9 but does boost to 1,342-1,367 MHz during benchmarking. I have only been testing on the out of the box settings and have not overclocked anything (even my CPU is running at stock 3.5 GHz). I always do this to ensure everything is stable.
     
    I was using the v344.11 WHQL drivers but I upgraded to the newer v344.16 beta ones yesterday evening. Also, because my PSU is modular I am using two separate 6+2 pin PCI-e leads to my GTX 980, which is how I had it set up for my GTX 780. Each lead does have two 6+2 pin connectors though so should I be using one and both connectors rather than two individual leads? I figured using two would spread the power load. Is that incorrect?
     
    I normally play games with v-sync enabled so I am unlikely to be stressing my card to the extent I have during the benchmarking but I'm a bit concerned at the unstability issues at the moment. My previous GTX 780 has been 100% stable for the last year once I stopped overclocking it too much.
     
    Advice?
     

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/21 07:26:21 (permalink)
    Max SilencioSo, come on, be a bad boy! Please be so kind and post some benchies for us when you're ready with installation. Even outdated 3dMark 11 Performance would be highly interesting for me. And Unigine.

     
    Jacob kindly benchmarked them here, didn't he?
    hxxp://forums.evga.com/GTX-980-SLI-Benchmarks-m2219434.aspx
     
    Anyways...
     

     
     

     

     

     
    The entire system (+ 27" 1440p LCD) peaked at 400W, with 2x R9 290X on the other hand it peaked at about 750W!
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/21 07:46:33 (permalink)
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    I got my EVGA GTX 980 SC from Scan UK yesterday as an upgrade to my 16 month old EVGA GTX 780.
     
    I'm very pleased with the overall performance increase of around 25-30% in the games and benchmarks I've ran so far but I've encountered a few driver crashes while benchmarking unfortunately ("Driver has stopped responding and recovered" errors) which I never had on my GTX 780 unless I overclocked too far (I used a core offset of +100 MHz and a memory offset of +50 MHz). This SC model has a default core clock of 1,240 MHz according to GPU-Z v0.7.9 but does boost to 1,342-1,367 MHz during benchmarking. I have only been testing on the out of the box settings and have not overclocked anything (even my CPU is running at stock 3.5 GHz). I always do this to ensure everything is stable.
     I was using the v344.11 WHQL drivers but I upgraded to the newer v344.16 beta ones yesterday evening. Also, because my PSU is modular I am using two separate 6+2 pin PCI-e leads to my GTX 980, which is how I had it set up for my GTX 780. Each lead does have two 6+2 pin connectors though so should I be using one and both connectors rather than two individual leads? I figured using two would spread the power load. Is that incorrect?
     I normally play games with v-sync enabled so I am unlikely to be stressing my card to the extent I have during the benchmarking but I'm a bit concerned at the unstability issues at the moment. My previous GTX 780 has been 100% stable for the last year once I stopped overclocking it too much.
     Advice?
     

     
    That's a remarkable increase, Daz1967. Can you post your GPU-Z screenie? Is PCI-E 3.0 activated or still 2.0?
    850 W should be enough. My 680's while intense gaming were near 650W to 700W. If you own a power meter would be interesting how much your 980's suck. If your crash is driver related the information is anyhow in the crash dump. Take Bluescreenview for example to find out the cause. As well the event viewer. If you want it more precise take WinDbg http://windbg.org/ and load the symbols from MS and open the actual crash dump and "analyze".
    As there are only 2 drivers for GTX 980 is the first driver as well buggy? Otherwise you'll have to wait until EVGA office opens tomorrow and they will help you.
    What your PSU concerns I'm not sure what you exactly mean. I'll take always two single 6(+2) PCI-e Connectors that why it's modular. 
    Anyhow it's always a disturbing huzzle if you install new components at weekends if there are problems. I'll try to avoid that: never on weekends!
    post edited by Max Silencio - 2014/09/21 07:50:57

      


     
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/21 07:59:47 (permalink)
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    Max SilencioSo, come on, be a bad boy! Please be so kind and post some benchies for us when you're ready with installation. Even outdated 3dMark 11 Performance would be highly interesting for me. And Unigine.

     
    Jacob kindly benchmarked them here, didn't he?
    hxxp://forums.evga.com/GTX-980-SLI-Benchmarks-m2219434.aspx
     
    Anyways...
     
    The entire system (+ 27" 1440p LCD) peaked at 400W, with 2x R9 290X on the other hand it peaked at about 750W!




    750W is what I've imagined as Jacob squeezed his system a bit. 
    Would be more realistic if he would take a single SSD system as not everybody uses RAID 0 and the numbers are pushed higher. But maybe it's just the joy of overclocking - if you start it's like an addicition you cannot stop until you've set fire on your rig.  So maybe Jacob can give us his stock numbers as well.

      


     
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/29 23:49:19 (permalink)
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    SC means that it is overclocked ever so slightly from the factory, through a bios option. If it wasn't stable at the prescribed overclock, it is dropped back to standard clocks, and sold as a standard card.

    With that said, not every card is attempted, so that doesn't automatically mean the card didn't overclock well. If you like money buy the regular card and overclock it youeself. If you hate money and want it gone, buy the SC. I

     
    Y, I think ref. is fine. I got one 980 ref card, and it can run benchmark @1520/2000 at stock voltage (1.206V). And I don't think every SC card can make it.
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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/30 08:43:53 (permalink)
    Ya from my experience it sadly seems that the SC edition of cards actually get worse OCs than reference models...Past 2 years i have bought SC versions and i get the worst OC with them, then i see ppl with reference get double the OC i can get so im going non SC this year when stock becomes avalible lol. 

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/30 11:30:41 (permalink)
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    Ya from my experience it sadly seems that the SC edition of cards actually get worse OCs than reference models...Past 2 years i have bought SC versions and i get the worst OC with them, then i see ppl with reference get double the OC i can get so im going non SC this year when stock becomes avalible lol. 


    Just got my second GTX980 ref card for SLI. It achieves much higher overclock result than my first card( 1520MHZ @ 1.206V ) and can run 3DMark Firestrike Extreme test @1565MHZ (still under stock voltage 1.206V). Really a beast. 
     

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    Re: GTX 980 or GTX 980 Superclocked? 2014/09/30 16:04:51 (permalink)
    About the best I could coax from my twin, EVGA GTX 780's, (vanilla version), was 20,325 in 3DMark11.  That was with the cards overclocked.
     
    I installed my EVGA GTX 980 SC's this past weekend, and with no overclocking, with the cards at stock speeds, my first score in 3DMark11 went up to 23,471.  Considering that the 980 SC's cost less than the 780's and are quieter and cooler, I'm quite happy with the new cards.
     
    In Fire Strike Extreme, the best I could get from the 780's was 8,821.  With the 980 SC's, not overclocked, but the rest of my computer exactly the same, that jumped to 10,778.
     
    If I get a chance tonight, I may try some more and perhaps try some overclocking.

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