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2015/08/24 08:59:21 (permalink)
Hello, 
  I recently got 2 980 Ti SC+ cards replacing 780 SC cards and I'm very happy with them. I want to mess around with overclocking and wanted to ask about setting it to the max voltage using Precision X. Is it safe doing so ? 
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/24 09:30:05 (permalink)
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    Hello, 
      I recently got 2 980 Ti SC+ cards replacing 780 SC cards and I'm very happy with them. I want to mess around with overclocking and wanted to ask about setting it to the max voltage using Precision X. Is it safe doing so ? 

    Perfectly safe.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/25 15:21:53 (permalink)
    I wanted to raise the voltage to the max but reading that warning message gave me the creeps ... I guess because your cards are hybrid, so you have much better cooling than the ACX cooler...
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/25 15:39:40 (permalink)
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    I wanted to raise the voltage to the max but reading that warning message gave me the creeps ... I guess because your cards are hybrid, so you have much better cooling than the ACX cooler...

    As long as the temps are below 90C, you're fine.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 06:46:14 (permalink)
    I did a test, but I am not sure if I did it correctly ... I did 100+ on the core and raised the voltage to the maximum, For some reason, I am getting the same or slightly better and sometimes less than stock settings !!! 
     
    Am I doing something wrong ?!!!
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 08:53:30 (permalink)
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    I did a test, but I am not sure if I did it correctly ... I did 100+ on the core and raised the voltage to the maximum, For some reason, I am getting the same or slightly better and sometimes less than stock settings !!! 
     
    Am I doing something wrong ?!!!

    I'm not sure what you're saying. If I were you, I'd add small increments on the clock and test them out at stock voltage before adding mV.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 08:58:13 (permalink)
    Here's what I did. I have all the changes linked, except the power limit "110%" and temp, prioritizing temps at 91c, I increased voltage to max and added increased core by 50+ , The results I'm getting with this are almost the same as stock settings. and sometimes have less results than stock.
     
    Adding 50+ to the core with stock voltage did the same.
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 09:35:36 (permalink)
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    Here's what I did. I have all the changes linked, except the power limit "110%" and temp, prioritizing temps at 91c, I increased voltage to max and added increased core by 50+ , The results I'm getting with this are almost the same as stock settings. and sometimes have less results than stock.
     
    Adding 50+ to the core with stock voltage did the same.

    What program or game are you using to test your OC? Which version of PX are you using? The new versions PX after 4 are buggy as hell. Try using PX 4.x.x or Afterburner, which I've never used but have heard great things.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 09:45:15 (permalink)
    I'm using Precision X 5.3.7 and I think you are right !!! I am testing OC using MSI AfterBurner and it does have increased results compared to using Precision X !!! The difference is noticeable. 
     
    With everything stock I score between 25K+ in  Firestrike and 4900-/+ in Unigine Heaven. 
     
    After Oc'ing with MSI I am now getting 26614 in Firestrike !!! 
     
    What version of Precision X do you use ? 
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:08:18 (permalink)
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    I'm using Precision X 5.3.7 and I think you are right !!! I am testing OC using MSI AfterBurner and it does have increased results compared to using Precision X !!! The difference is noticeable. 
     
    With everything stock I score between 25K+ in  Firestrike and 4900-/+ in Unigine Heaven. 
     
    After Oc'ing with MSI I am now getting 26614 in Firestrike !!! 
     
    What version of Precision X do you use ? 

    It's the last 4.x.x version, I forget the exact numbers. AB is very good too, if not better, I've just been lazy to try it (I'm also a creature of habit). I say stay with AB if it works for you. PX 4 is older and I doubt you'll get any better results. I might get off my butt and change to it myself now lol.
     
    EDIT: It's 4.2.1.
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:19:17 (permalink)
    Well definitely I am going somewhere now ... But how did you manage that +250 on the memory ?!  it seems I am crashing at +110 on the memory. I had core 110+ and memoet 110+ and it was crashing on unigine heaven, when I decreased the memory to 105 it stopped crashing. and ultimately how do you test an overclock that you are comfortable with for 24/7 stability ?!
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:23:07 (permalink)
    If you blow your GPU using the stock bios (even with max voltage) your card was faulty. The worst you should ever get is a hard reset after it crashes due to core overclock instability.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:26:49 (permalink)
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    If you blow your GPU using the stock bios (even with max voltage) your card was faulty. The worst you should ever get is a hard reset after it crashes due to core overclock instability.




    Thankfully nothing has blown up  and I did have a driver crash / recover while messing around with overclocking. So I guess I have good cards ?! 76.1% and 78.4% ASIC quality.
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:34:25 (permalink)
    You will be fine. They can take lots of punishment. If you flash bios then you need to be very careful but Its not needed and I never advise it unless you are a real bencher and pushing LN2.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:40:22 (permalink)
    I don't think I will ever need or even try to flash the BIOS of the cards. I just want to find the sweet OC spot with what I have. Currently I am testing 110+ core and 120+ memory and voltage set to max. Crashed a couple of times .... But I did a restart and tested again and so far Unigine Heaven is running with no crashes ...
     
    Edit: Nope .. crashed again :/ so I think I can't go beyond 110+ on core.. I will keep messing with it .... but hey I'm still getting 100+ on default clocks ... that's not bad.. but I am wondering how are many people out there are reaching 140+ on core .. like our friend in this thread, JerkMan.
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:48:22 (permalink)
    SC+ should boost around 1400mhz stock. +100 on core is 1500Mhz depending on how much voltage you add. You really cant ask for more.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:52:45 (permalink)
    This is Firestrike Extreme 109+ on core and 120+ on memory:
     
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5826325
     
    I think I am happy with this result 
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:54:05 (permalink)
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    Well definitely I am going somewhere now ... But how did you manage that +250 on the memory ?!  it seems I am crashing at +110 on the memory. I had core 110+ and memoet 110+ and it was crashing on unigine heaven, when I decreased the memory to 105 it stopped crashing. and ultimately how do you test an overclock that you are comfortable with for 24/7 stability ?!


    My particular cards can handle it in BF4 in particular. Different cards in different setups running different games/programs will garner different results. I just picked a number and played BF4 with it. The recommended way is to start low and go high slowly. I started at +100 I think, jumped to +150, which still worked without a crash, and went higher. Once I got a crash immediately, I knew it was unstable. I dialed it in to the current settings, and other than some issues with new RAM, they've been 100% stable. Your numbers aren't noticeably different from mine.
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    I don't think I will ever need or even try to flash the BIOS of the cards. I just want to find the sweet OC spot with what I have. Currently I am testing 110+ core and 120+ memory and voltage set to max. Crashed a couple of times .... But I did a restart and tested again and so far Unigine Heaven is running with no crashes ...
     
    Edit: Nope .. crashed again :/ so I think I can't go beyond 110+ on core.. I will keep messing with it .... but hey I'm still getting 100+ on default clocks ... that's not bad.. but I am wondering how are many people out there are reaching 140+ on core .. like our friend in this thread, JerkMan.


    Check out the HYBRID thread.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 10:54:56 (permalink)
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    SC+ should boost around 1400mhz stock. +100 on core is 1500Mhz depending on how much voltage you add. You really cant ask for more.


    You're a little high. More like 1350 to 1450 for +100.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 11:28:33 (permalink)
    still very good. I keep mine at 1430 and they are under full waterblocks.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 12:00:35 (permalink)
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    still very good. I keep mine at 1430 and they are under full waterblocks.


    I meant your estimates. But yes, they're good either way.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 12:19:17 (permalink)
    Could this overclock work without increasing the voltage ?! I gave it a shot and reduced voltage to stock and kept the OC of 108+ on core and 120+ on mem and it seems stable !!!?? Been running Heaven benchmark for 3 ,4 loops now and no crash and score is the same with max voltage !!!??
     
    I am getting confused now 
     
    result : Unigine Heaven Benchmark Score : 5155 stock voltage
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 12:31:28 (permalink)
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    Could this overclock work without increasing the voltage ?! I gave it a shot and reduced voltage to stock and kept the OC of 108+ on core and 120+ on mem and it seems stable !!!?? Been running Heaven benchmark for 3 ,4 loops now and no crash and score is the same with max voltage !!!??
     
    I am getting confused now 
     
    result : Unigine Heaven Benchmark Score : 5155 stock voltage


    Absolutely. Go back to stock voltage, then reset, then try overclocking. My OC is at stock voltage.

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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/08/26 12:34:20 (permalink)
    That's what I did. And this is what I got:
     

     
    Still running .. No crashes !
     
    Wow !!! Great stuff 
     
    Edit: I ran a custom test with this oc , 2560x1440 full screen and it crashed... I am getting to the sweet spot .. but it's gonna take alot of benchies and gameplay to find that spot . but that's the fun of it 
    post edited by mhijazi - 2015/08/26 12:49:39
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/09/02 00:14:15 (permalink)
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    That's what I did. And this is what I got:
     
     
     
    Still running .. No crashes !
     
    Wow !!! Great stuff 
     
    Edit: I ran a custom test with this oc , 2560x1440 full screen and it crashed... I am getting to the sweet spot .. but it's gonna take alot of benchies and gameplay to find that spot . but that's the fun of it 




    windowed mode at 1600x900 resolution and you only scores 5155 ?  ROFL.  ?You bought two 980Ti to play at resolution?
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/09/02 00:43:29 (permalink)
    No, I don't play at 1600x900. I play at 2450x1440. This was only testing the stability of the OC. When I feel I reached a stable OC, I run it again at ultra settings in 2560x1440 Ultra mode / full screen.
     
    And what is so strange about the score ?
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/09/02 00:54:58 (permalink)
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    No, I don't play at 1600x900. I play at 2450x1440. This was only testing the stability of the OC. When I feel I reached a stable OC, I run it again at ultra settings in 2560x1440 Ultra mode / full screen.
     
    And what is so strange about the score ?




    testing the stability in windowed mode and lower res ? shouldn't be be testing it at the same resolution as the game ? than post about your results.
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/09/02 00:59:19 (permalink)
    I am testing at lower resolutions for about 10 minutes . If it works well, I keep increasing the OC. until I reach a point where I feel it is stable and then I keep it running for 1 hour+ under 2450x1440. If it crashes I lower the voltage and test again under 2560x1440.
     
    And what is so strange about testing at lower res ?! I test everything. Heaven Benchmark windowed and full screen, 3DMark Firestrike, Firestrike extreme, and firestrike ultra.
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/09/02 02:38:34 (permalink)
    Here's some Firestrike benchmarks for you:
     
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    FireStrike Ultra
     
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    Re: GTX 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 Overclocking 2015/09/02 02:52:21 (permalink)
    mhijazi
    I am testing at lower resolutions for about 10 minutes . If it works well, I keep increasing the OC. until I reach a point where I feel it is stable and then I keep it running for 1 hour+ under 2450x1440. If it crashes I lower the voltage and test again under 2560x1440.
     
    And what is so strange about testing at lower res ?! I test everything. Heaven Benchmark windowed and full screen, 3DMark Firestrike, Firestrike extreme, and firestrike ultra.




    On lower resolution graphic card will not work with full power.
    But processor will work more. It's pointless to test below 1080p with GTX980Ti..

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMun5xiRe0
     
    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
    https://www.evga.com/articles/01386/evga-sr-3-dark/
     
     
     

     
     
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