Stephenk291

stalinx20
All I'm going to say is that I think that the FTW lineup has a complete problem all together with the voltage. I'd be surprised if large amount of people came and said they don't have any problems with their card.

I doubt I'll ever buy another FTW card after my 980 fiasco.

Scarlet-Tech
First and foremost: the 780ti came voltage locked at 1.212v. The entire lineup including the classified. The permission to unlock the classified was not given, and led to a fiasco upon release and took a while to get worked out.

Second and more important: software does not read voltage correct no matter which one you use, but gpuz is closer. The 980 KPE that I own all read below 1.2 on all but gpuz, and they still aren't correct on there, so that is why I asked where you were getting voltage readouts.

My fan boy response is based on facts of software reading 1.2v and a multimeter reading 1.4v. I do not have a 980 ftw, so i wouldn't know where the voltage point is on the card itself, but I do know that software has been incorrect for multiple generations and still is, including the closest which would read 1.375 while multimeter is reading 1.4.

And don't forget, Nvidia imposes restrictions that evga is bound to, or it can be considered a breach, so they have to abide by the rules set by Nvidia. I am not saying that is an excuse for EVGA to lock the card or anything, but if Nvidia sets the limit, EVGA is supposed to abide by it. That led to a major issue at the release of the 780ti classified, as the cards couldn't be over clocked. Nearly a month later, and under strict control of serial numbers, EVGA released a modified bios and requested that we not share it. Of course, people shared it and others modified it even further (see SkyN3t bios revisions).

To assume they strictly locked a higher than base card to run slower than their base card is what I consider silly, especially when many base cards have been able to outperform some of the classified and even K|ngp|n cards on air.

Now, if someone were check the card on the PCB per the voltage points for actual readouts, I would be curious as to what they see.. Reading out of known problematic software that hasn't been able to read voltages is not the cure for assumptions.

Scarlet-Tech

wickedwayne


Man, writing so much and saying so little. Again 780ti has nothing to do with this its kepler and we are talking about 980 which is maxwell.
 
Here is the stock bios of my 980FTW. Showing the voltage lock.
 

 
 

Reading so little and not opening your mind? Voltage locks are normally from per NVidia as stated. All manufacturers are supposed to be bound by them. The architecture isn't in question for that, as it wasn't what I was talking about at all.

Now, I added more to the last post as well but see that your kind is closed, so there is no need to attempt to explain anything that you won't listen or read to anyway.

Also, your picture link is broke. *it started working while I responded*

Brian6751
If that's the case and EVGA is forced to lock it then a EVGA rep should have no problem saying so...... I'll wait right here.......

flexy123
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Hey,
I just would like to know why there is a hardware limit at 1.21V for the 980 FTW.
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The question is rather whether the limitation to 1.212V causes any sort of problem for you?
There seems to be some misinformation that some cards "need" crazy amounts of voltage, like 1.25V, 1.3V whatever. They don't.
I have a EVGA GTX 970 (an average card with ASIC 72%) which is also limited to 1.212V. (This is a hardware limit how the voltage regulators are wired on the board, with THOSE cards. Some other cards might have different voltage regulators where you can get out more V.)
 
But the point is, for my max. tested OC of 1506 I don't even need the 1.212V, I am actually running at 1.200V max with my modded bios. So depending on your OC, the 1.212 are actually "totally" fine, anywhere to 1530 or whatever, depending on your card and desired OC. So the limitation to 1.212V is not so much a problem like you make it sound, unless you care for 25Mhz or so more at the cost of 100W....which is silly.

flexy123
Well if you have those problems at stock (like I had with my 1st EVGA) just RMA it. The first card I had black screened at stock clocks at 110% power limit, the replacement (which was brand new) only black screens when I heavily overclock to 1506 at max voltage and at default fan profile. So you could say the second card is "alright". I agree of course that getting an A/M cooler is not really the best advice. I am angry about this too since this is an added expense to the already €40 I spent for RMA shipping which I think SHOULD not be necessary.

stalinx20
All I'm going to say is that I think that the FTW lineup has a complete problem all together with the voltage. I'd be surprised if large amount of people came and said they don't have any problems with their card.