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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/04/13 03:29:16 (permalink)
One thing I neglected to mention was before I uninstalled the drivers I disabled the video card in device manager. So disable the card... uninstall the drivers then reboot. Enable the video card again then when I installed the drivers I only installed for the GPU and PhysX. 
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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/04/13 16:37:01 (permalink)
Most of the work arounds so far for cuda utilizing apps (seti, einstein, etc) has been to use Nvidia Inspector to manually change the values from 3.0 GHz to 3.5 GHz in the P2 states for all affected GPUs and then create an auto execute file or short cut which can be initiated after reboot or start ups.  

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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/04/13 17:59:58 (permalink)
I've read the same thing about using nvidia inspector but for some reason for me it made my system unstable. 
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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/04/13 19:16:20 (permalink)
Initially it did that to mine as well. I had several episodes of GPU Driver crash followed by driver recovery (usually with the P2 state being reset to the lower 3.0 GHz value).
Ultimately I ended up getting Process Lasso that restrains applications that put too much stress on the system. 
After that I've not had any episodes of driver crashes.

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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/04/14 13:53:39 (permalink)
I would be careful modifying memory clock speeds.
 
As I interpret Manuel's reply, they clock down in those situations because it MIGHT be necessary to ensure 100% precise calculations. (Something which in games might not be a problem since games usually don't use heavy floating point calculations etc...)
 
The problem with Video memory is that you won't necessarily see when it encounters errors due to internal CRC correction.
 
In other words: Yes, you can adjust to "normal" speed in Maxwell Bios Editor etc. but you might not be aware in case there is computation errors. You might suffer performance when the memory "internally" has to correct itself. I figure there is a reason WHY Nvidia runs the memory clock lower, otherwise they wouldn't do this.
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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/05/09 19:58:52 (permalink)
Hello everyone,
I've recently purchased an EVGA Gtx 970 SSC - main reason being for enhanced CUDA performance with Premier Pro CS6. My old GPU was a EVGA Gtx 660 FTW edition.
 
Now, having installed my new 970 SSC and my new CPU etc (whole rebuild) I am very upset to find that Cuda rendering on 900 series cards is pretty much a dead end?
 
Is there anything I can do? This new build has set me back about £1200 and its main reason was for me to increase productivity etc and faster video rendering. Am I at a total loss here?
 
System Specs:
i5 4690K
GTx 970 SSC
16gb HyperX Fury Ram
Asus Maximux VII Hero Motherboard
 
Please help, it will be appreciated. I am so worried.
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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/05/09 20:36:43 (permalink)
Where did you get the idea that "Cuda on the GTX 970 is a dead end"?
 
What the title means is that in CUDA apps, assuming the card stays in a lower power-state, the memory is running somewhat slower than, say, in Games. Nvidia officially explained this with that for computation, precision is more important than speed, therefore they're running the memory there slightly slower to prevent potential computation errors due to faster clocked memory.
 
While with a BIOS hack this could possibly be be "solved", it's a FAR CRY from saying that CUDA rendering is a "dead end" just because the memory is clocked slower. I figure that NV had a reason WHY they did this...so I wouldn't necessarily recommend to anyone to mod their bios because of this, especially since memory clocks do not have THAT large impact on performance. Of course it has, but TBH whether memory runs at 6000 or 7000 doesn't make such an enormous difference, at least not a significant one. This issue is way blown out of proportion, IMHO.
post edited by flexy123 - 2015/05/09 20:45:09
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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/05/09 20:49:57 (permalink)
Thank you soooooo much for the response.
 
Thing is, when I search 'Adobe premier cs6 gtx 970 cuda' or anything similar it comes up with countless threads about how Adobe Premier will not utilise the Gtx 970 due to the Maxwell architecture.
 
So many people are complaining/claiming that even with Cuda enabled on Premier Pro (by adding the gtx970 to the list of supported cards), when rendering the GPU is not used at all. Meaning that my video rendering will now actually be slower using a 970 than my original 660.
 
Sorry if everything I said was me being dumb, but I am still a little new to all this and I am slightly panicking. All help/comments are very much appreciated. Thank you again.
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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/05/09 21:05:15 (permalink)
If it doesn't even utilize it at all (which I don't know at the moment) it's a driver issue. Nvidia did something with Cuda support in the latest drivers. But then an OLDER driver who supports CUDA should solve this? Sorry can't say too much about this but some Googling should shed some light on this.
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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/05/09 21:16:39 (permalink)
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If it doesn't even utilize it at all (which I don't know at the moment) it's a driver issue. Nvidia did something with Cuda support in the latest drivers. But then an OLDER driver who supports CUDA should solve this? Sorry can't say too much about this but some Googling should shed some light on this.


Or it's an Adobe Premier issue. If you're using Premier 8.0 or earlier, the GPU has to be in the cuda_supported_cards.txt file. Or if a later version...
http://blogs.adobe.com/pr...c-and-gpu-support.html
and
https://helpx.adobe.com/p...stem-requirements.html
post edited by HeavyHemi - 2015/05/09 21:19:44

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Re: GTX 970 SC will not run CUDA applications at the rated 7010 MHz 2015/05/10 22:43:30 (permalink)
I guess my first question to you is,

Have you actually tried running the computer with the GTX970 and your Premier Pro CS6?  What do the numbers look like compared to your old computer?
 
As far as update to Cuda by Nvidia.  I don't think there has been any changes to CUDA. There was a change to OpenCL from 1.1 to 1.2 but that won't affect CS6 as per their forums CS6 disables OpenCL.  So that is a mute point.
 
Is it possible that CS6 doesn't support the 970, yes it is as the last nvidia card I see on their support list is GTX 580. That was some time ago.
 
For anyone wondering about the change in driver 350.12 and how it affect crunching data. For those projects which use OpenCl, they will need to adjust their apps to compensate for the change (Seti as already done this with a new release) The only other advice to avoid this  issue is to stay with a driver below 350.12
 
post edited by zalster - 2015/05/10 22:55:07

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