Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/07 23:13:54
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Szeged
very nicely done :)
are you on air or water? 1.35v shouldnt be a problem for 24/7 use on a classy under water.
Thanks, I'm under water. Temps shot up about 8c which implies it's working. Good news is the voltage finally dropped down. No idea what was going on to cause it to stick like that. I appreciate your help by the way!
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/07 23:15:00
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glad to help :) also glad its working now :P
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/07 23:24:19
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Szeged
glad to help :) also glad its working now :P
Same here. I was about to return the card since I wasn't getting much out of it.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/07 23:26:49
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Any ideas when the Hydro Copper version will be out? =)
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/07 23:29:13
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Any ideas when the Hydro Copper version will be out? =)
Probably in a few weeks to a month would be my guess. No reason to wait since they already have blocks for the Ti so you could just buy both separately.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/07 23:53:15
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 01:19:44
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As Awesome of a card the 780 Ti looks like I will probably end up getting a second 770 before I get a 780 Ti
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 01:49:41
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6GB GTX 780 Ti won't happen, this would hurt the sales for the GTX Titan, as far as I can recall the GTX Titan is the only one with 6GB VRAM, it's purpose starts to shine when using Surround gaming on 3x 4096 x 2160 Ultra HD H-IPS Panels, this is where the GTX Titan will take the performance crown, it's Six gigs of VRAM will do very well here, the GTX 780's will just run out of VRAM at such a point, the other thing the Titans will prevail when it comes to Dual Precision rendering, as they do about 1.5 Teraflops per second, as where a GTX 780 Ti only does 233 Gigaflops per second, so go figure that out right   And really, I have lots of respect for them very few GTX Titan users, my advice for them is to keep their GTX Titan Gems, they will prove them that they did make the right choice for 4K gaming, especially when it comes to Multiple screens and Double Precision CUDA Workloads.  So to protect the GTX Titan's place, NV won't ever release a 6GB GTX 780 Ti, so please stop asking that because it won't happen  Not now anyways. 
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 01:51:37
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6GB GTX 780 Ti won't happen, this would hurt the sales for the GTX Titan, as far as I can recall the GTX Titan is the only one with 6GB VRAM, it's purpose starts to shine when using Surround gaming on 3x 4096 x 2160 Ultra HD H-IPS Panels, this is where the GTX Titan whall take the performance crow, it's Six gigs of VRAM will do very well here, the GTX 780's will just run out of VRAM at such a point, the other thing the Titans will prevail when it comes to Dual Precision rendering, as they do about 1.5 teraflops per sec a GTX 780 Ti only does 233 Gigaflops per second.
So to protect the GTX Titan's place, NV won't ever release a 6GB GTX 780 Ti, so please stop asking that because it won't happen, not now anyways.
That's assuming Nvidia actually still plans on producing the Titan.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 01:59:40
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6GB GTX 780 Ti won't happen, this would hurt the sales for the GTX Titan, as far as I can recall the GTX Titan is the only one with 6GB VRAM, it's purpose starts to shine when using Surround gaming on 3x 4096 x 2160 Ultra HD H-IPS Panels, this is where the GTX Titan whall take the performance crow, it's Six gigs of VRAM will do very well here, the GTX 780's will just run out of VRAM at such a point, the other thing the Titans will prevail when it comes to Dual Precision rendering, as they do about 1.5 Teraflops per sec a GTX 780 Ti only does 233 Gigaflops per second.
So to protect the GTX Titan's place, NV won't ever release a 6GB GTX 780 Ti, so please stop asking that because it won't happen, not now anyways.
That's assuming Nvidia actually still plans on producing the Titan.
Yes exactly, After reading through this thread it seems that most people are forgetting the fact that the GTX Titan is a Niche Product, it was aim for one thing, that is to give the Niche class of poeple the VGA card of their dreams, it's made for 4K Surround Gaming, it's Ram and it's Dual Precision Rendering helps this card to give it's special ability to do such crazy things and it's also a cheap alternative over an expensive Quadro Q6000 or GK110 Tesla unit, either you pay 8600 euro's for a GK110 Tesla unit with 24 GB 384Bit GDDR5 or 4500 euro's for a Quadro K6000 with 12GB 384Bit GDDR5 or just 950 Euro's for a GTX Titan with 6GB 384Bit GDDR5, the Titan has great potential for the CAD market that does not even require a GK110 based Quadro or Tesla, there are many professional apps to which the Titan does exceedingly well. I do plan on adding a GTX Titan to my collection, just due to the fact of it's existence and it's role, for being one of the most interesting GeForce cards ever made, but I am gonna wait on that a little bit hehe, the GTX Titan is the closest thing you are gonna get if going Quadro/Tesla Style with a GeForce.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 02:06:18
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Very nice, extra proc and 7GHz for the memory, very suprised you only went with 3GB, i would of thought 4GB to be minimum for 4k gamers?, CoD Ghosts PC recommended system requirements for example is the GTX 770 (4GB) card.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 02:27:00
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The VRAM bus of the GTX 780 Ti is 384Bit, which is a 128Bit wider VRAM Bus than that of the GTX 770 which si only 256Bit, so this will eliminate that VRAM limitation wall that + the amount of Kepler CUDA Cores 2880 versus 1536, this will also process the incoming data loads faster to about 00% if not more, so nah 3GB is fine even for 3x 1920 x 1200p to 3x 2560 x 1600p, the VRAM limitation wall will only become an issue if going for 3-Way 4K monitor setups, this is where I advise the GTX Titan and nothing else  A GTX 770 with 4GB won't cut it, since the GK104-425-A2 is not powerful enough to support and fill up all that VRAM at such high resolutions, you can have the VRAM amount, but if your GPGPU can't feed it fast enough, you will still run out of the performance you will need to fill that VRAM
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 04:04:33
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People let's go on NVIDIA Forum to demand 6GB for non reference models???
I mean NVIDIA only enough is to leave manufacturer to decide.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 04:35:01
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People let's go on NVIDIA Forum to demand 6GB for non reference models???
I mean NVIDIA only enough is to leave manufacturer to decide.
Ugh I don't think I want to be on that forum anymore ... too any bad memories  Most likely your topic will be locked by some Amorphous guy  Good luck with that
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 06:25:38
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Looking at the reviews it appears that the 780Ti also likes to be overclocked, so I definitely believe that my step up from a 780 Classified to a reference 780Ti was worthwhile.
I guess its very personal, I game with a single card these days at 2560x1440 having a few extra fps on my single screen is definitely worth it.
BTW I have always preferred the stock Titan cooler that is on the reference GTX780Ti to the acx cooler...
Regarding step up queue. Yesterday at around 2.00pm I started my step up and was at #74 and this morning I am at #68. Best guess for step up is around 10 changes in queue daily so for me I have another 7 days to wait, for the poster at 100, I guess you will have 10-14 days to wait.
Not really a big deal as I still have the Classified to game with and as I am in the queue, even if my step up period expires before I get to #1 I will still be able to step up. These are the rules.... :-)
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 06:44:01
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.. Regarding step up queue. Yesterday at around 2.00pm I started my step up and was at #74 and this morning I am at #68. Best guess for step up is around 10 changes in queue daily so for me I have another 7 days to wait, for the poster at 100, I guess you will have 10-14 days to wait. Not really a big deal as I still have the Classified to game with and as I am in the queue, even if my step up period expires before I get to #1 I will still be able to step up. These are the rules.... :-)
I think that may be people dropping out. I was number 9 and I've only moved to 7. But like you said atleast you have your classy for the wait! :)
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 07:50:14
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To be honest, the GTX 780 Classified was the first video card that I bought that was built on a custom PCB and overclocked. Usually I go for reference cards and overclock them myself. While owning the Classified gave me some bragging rights and perhaps a few more fps over a stock GTX 780 that was manually overclocked I really don't see the point for everyday gamers. These cards are really designed for serious benchmarkers.
Yes, the first thing I did when I received the card was tweak the bios and re-flash the card with a higher power limit for some benchmarking. It was fun, but I really did not see any real gains while gaming at 2560x1440, sure I might have seen maybe 5fps extra but this did not relate to a better gaming experience for me.
Moving to the 780Ti should improve the gaming experience...IMO of course....
I was lucky anyhow my Classified was game stable at 1254mhz boosted with no vcore increase in stock bios 1 and bios 2..... Messing around with custom bios' and adding extra power only resulted in an extra 100mhz (on air)...
I'll take my chances with a reference GTX 780 Ti :-)
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 08:27:27
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AHHHHHH! Only 5 days left in my StepUp period and the ACX cooler version is out of stock. I'm going to have to go with the blower one because if they run out of stock im SOL. I'm going to miss my ACX cooler on my gtx 780 sc :( I just hope that my backplate I got for it is compatible with the ti version.
post edited by viceroy-karl - 2013/11/08 08:31:04
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 13:36:11
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AHHHHHH! Only 5 days left in my StepUp period and the ACX cooler version is out of stock. I'm going to have to go with the blower one because if they run out of stock im SOL. I'm going to miss my ACX cooler on my gtx 780 sc :(
I just hope that my backplate I got for it is compatible with the ti version.
most posts ive seen say the pcb's are different and the 780 backplate will not work
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 14:18:08
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AHHHHHH! Only 5 days left in my StepUp period and the ACX cooler version is out of stock. I'm going to have to go with the blower one because if they run out of stock im SOL. I'm going to miss my ACX cooler on my gtx 780 sc :(
I just hope that my backplate I got for it is compatible with the ti version.
most posts ive seen say the pcb's are different and the 780 backplate will not work
The front of the PCB is different, the back looks the same. The screw holes are all the same too, so that is mostly all that matters.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 14:57:47
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I'm kind of bummed out. Fedex dropped off my GTX 780 Ti SC 2 hrs ago and I just got through installing it to find out that the 3331.65 drivers aren't recognizing the card, even though on Nvidia's website it's supposed to be supported. So now the system is just running off of the default drivers for the intel HD 4600 graphics chip.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 14:59:13
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...It was fun, but I really did not see any real gains while gaming at 2560x1440, sure I might have seen maybe 5fps extra but this did not relate to a better gaming experience for me. Usually when someone upgrades or overclocks their graphics card, and sees little to any performance improvement, we tell them any combination of a slower CPU or lower resolution is holding back the potential of the card, i.e. bottleneck. Except the problem is that many think once they get the best resolution they can afford or overclock the CPU as high as they practically can, then they assume CPU/resolution isn't the problem anymore-- which is wrong, and easily proven with a future CPU architecture or future cheaper high-end resolution since time doesn't really stop. A Haswell quadcore would certain scale three 8800GTX's better than an older Core 2 Quad (as back then, the third card didn't scale well at popular resolutions, which were less than 1440p, and a GTX560 SE = 3-way SLI 8800GTX/Ultras). Likewise if you want to see better gains from a GPU overclock, maybe a Skylake overclock will make a difference, forget Haswell/Broadwell. It is only the coincidental circumstance that you or anyone is perfectly happy with your resolution and current CPU overclock that the performance of a GTX780 was good enough at 1440p and anything better won't make a difference. We are at a point when modern popular resolutions need to change as they make any future high-end a diminishing return to all except performance junkies and those that can afford more resolution the modern popular.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/08 23:45:45
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To be honest, the GTX 780 Classified was the first video card that I bought that was built on a custom PCB and overclocked. Usually I go for reference cards and overclock them myself. While owning the Classified gave me some bragging rights and perhaps a few more fps over a stock GTX 780 that was manually overclocked I really don't see the point for everyday gamers. These cards are really designed for serious benchmarkers.
I'll take my chances with a reference GTX 780 Ti :-)
Yes but Classified has higher boost out of box. Only increase voltage without she will boost almost on 1200MHz- 1170MHz. That give you calm gaming first 6-7 months and than you can OC. For 1200 MHz Boost you can push little more stock model and temp are bigger even with ACX. Here almost don't need touch clocks at all. I understand over 1300 MHz you can keep for gaming with serious voltages no matter what you have good or bad OC. But difference between Classified and stock boost is good difference in fps. That difference separate weaker card than R9-290X stock and same card as R9-290X looking their results over net in some cases even better. I think EVGA should push GTX780Ti Classified on 1050/1800 clocks. That would be excellent card and without overclocking., I mean most of people can put 1100/2000MHz if they install good memory on all models. Less than 1050MHz is 1200MHz Boost. That would be much better card than 780Classified. Not as new series but good difference. Don't even to talk about normal gaming without noise and I can bet Classified cooler is at least 5C better than on ACX SC model example... Reference design is not any more even for people who don't want to OC. And for middle class who bough GTX770 instead of R9-290 he deserve to watch unlocking in R9-290X and 40% better card for same money. NVIDIA don't care any more for selling Titan, 6GB can hurt their next card with price over 1000$, they prepare field for that. I told their every move is to delay something and ask higher price. Even if they knew at least 4GB need for such class. For what to ask 1000-1100$ if unlocked GK110 have 6GB memory. They must leave that for Black Edition. Titan is past for them. People bought cards before 6-7 months, 1000$ now they are in position to be happy if they can sell and buy card with 700$ = NVIDIA.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/09 01:57:15
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Both companies need a little blowback of angry consumers from this tiered release approach. It maximizes profits sure...but when you have people dropping $700 to $1k on a card only to have it beaten in less than a few months ought to get some people having at least SOME buyer's remorse.
We all know that new tech comes out and makes old tech look obsolete, but this isn't new tech. It's the same tech with all of it's parts enabled. And they got you, especially you Titan and 780 buyers, hook, line, and sinker. The few of you that aren't furious should be. Must have more money than sense......
I enjoy Nvidia but please, AMD create some real competition!
And for full disclosure, I'm thoroughly enjoying my 2x 670FTW I got for ~$700 a year ago. At 1080 and 1440, I'm hanging right in there with this card for the same price....for the entire last year.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/09 02:00:24
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What do you guys think a GTX 780 ACX Superclocked card will sell for now? Just curious if I still got a good deal or not :/
can always see if you can step up :P
Bought it on eBay with a transferable warranty, I'm assuming it's out of that range. How long do you have to step up?
Doesn't matter since you aren't the original owner you can't step-up. They will probably sell in the $425 range
What if you bought it new and unopened on Ebay? Still can't step up? I don't really see how that is any different than buying it on something like newegg.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/09 02:20:41
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What do you guys think a GTX 780 ACX Superclocked card will sell for now? Just curious if I still got a good deal or not :/
can always see if you can step up :P
Bought it on eBay with a transferable warranty, I'm assuming it's out of that range. How long do you have to step up?
Doesn't matter since you aren't the original owner you can't step-up. They will probably sell in the $425 range
What if you bought it new and unopened on Ebay? Still can't step up? I don't really see how that is any different than buying it on something like newegg.
If you buy it new and select the right options when you register it, you should be able to step up. Just make sure you don't select that you bought it from a system builder or something like that. Gotta register within 14 or 30 days or something like that.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/09 06:26:01
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you have to have an invoice to step-up. eBay (and other auction sites) are explicitly disallowed from stepping up, last time I checked.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/09 09:47:19
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Both companies need a little blowback of angry consumers from this tiered release approach. It maximizes profits sure...but when you have people dropping $700 to $1k on a card only to have it beaten in less than a few months ought to get some people having at least SOME buyer's remorse.
Profit will rise only on first days, weeks, maybe until Spring from people who have money, than in 2014 easy will start to came back everything from middle class and from people who cross on AMD, many of them who decide it's much better investment R9-290 than GTX770, R9-280X than GTX760, R9-290X than GTX780... Many, many people wait only AMD to improve drivers, they will gladly leave NVIDIA forever. But if you look min fps on R9-290X and GTX780Ti in some reviews maybe that day came sooner than we expect. In my country people are sick of their movement, even people who don't buy nothing are aware of unbearable price torture from NVIDIA side in last months before AMD launch card...from beginning of 2013. NVIDIA like NVIDIA not work to support gaming as gaming, that company work to bring gaming only in homes on rich people on west and suck their money. Only because AMD, many people are still capable to play something better. Remember that. And I can bet first move off AMD when launch Lightening Extreme and Republic of Gamers and Sapphire Vapor-X R9-290X with double memory will be price drop. Same as reference models now.
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/09 17:40:56
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Is double precision enabled as it is on the Titan? ..or is it just 2880 cuda cores w/o DP?
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Re: GTX 780 Ti
2013/11/09 18:05:27
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Is double precision enabled as it is on the Titan? ..or is it just 2880 cuda cores w/o DP?
Titan destroys the 780Ti in compute.
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