MonnieRock
When will we see the 6 GB Classified GTX 780Ti?
 
 
Thank you,
Monnie

I was about to ask that, I'm hoping we can see them soon :D  I'd like to pick up 2 of them so I can finally feel an enormous boost in performance again while upgrading to 1440p, just hoping some 1440p 120hz monitors show soon too.

fluffy177

tempnexus
Well this ****ing sucks I have the 780 GTX Superclocked Dual bios and I can't step up.
Meh, decision made...been a EVGA customer since 2006, my account has 4 x 590s registered etc, and now this. 
I guess no more EVGA for me.
 
Sorry but you lost a good customer.

If you're within your 90 days you can Step Up. If you didn't register your card within 14 days of purchase than you have to buy the extended warranty to be eligible. 


 

kaninja

fluffy177
Wheres your proof it will still outperform a 780 Classified? I haven't seen a single thing comparing the two, only reference 780's.

I have seen the proof.  By it's very design the 780Ti is a superior card and it can be seen by cross referencing reviews of the two cards on the same games at the same settings, and at the same resolution.  The GTX780Ti is faster when compared stock vs stock.

Just compared the two and it's so similar. Classified seems faster at 1080p and the Ti is like 5 fps faster at 1440p. Glad I cross referenced the reviews because it's not worth paying money to get very minor performance gains. Pretty much the same difference as a reference 780 to Classified. 
 
Here's the two reviews I compared. 
 
Classified: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/60269-evga-geforce-gtx-780-classified/?page=4
 
780 Ti: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/62085-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti/?page=4

Thank you for this.  This eased my mind a bit.  I don't think I am going to step-up my 780 Classified Hydro Copper for a Reference GTX 780 Ti and than fork another $130 not to mention $20 for both ways on shipping.  My 780 Classified Hydro Copper loves the 1400mhz / 7000mh range on water.  I eat Titans for lunch and dinner and from the looks of some of these reviews, the 780 Classified is beating the reference 780 Ti.
 
What's this talk about a 780 Ti Classified with 6 GB of Vram?  I do run surround and this crossed my mind but than again I would need another GPU for more horsepower anyways.
 

Yes it's stronger than Classified, I look now my results and it's stronger.
I mean not to much but you can OC Classified too much to close GTX780Ti and she is still better and people can play on that clock but with Classified 780 can't on so high clock for gaming. I mean look only memory. Only memory is fabric 150MHz memory than I can OC mine. That's 300 points in Valley more. Plus probably people with good memory will OC GTX780Ti Classified on 1900-2000MHz Memory + unlocked shaders and same clock, it's much better. OK probably not worth crossing from GTX780 Classified on reference model but example on GTX780Ti SC ACX or GTX780 Ti Classified worth 100%. I mean NVIDIA made us like this is new series, she made whole this hype with locking card to one part of people. Nothing more. Cards are similar, not some super stronger card, people deserve than in May for 700$ but like I say with hype and pushing people in bad feeling they earn money not with some new developed technology and with their success with some new chip. 

gtxjackbauer

fluffy177

tempnexus
Well this ****ing sucks I have the 780 GTX Superclocked Dual bios and I can't step up.
Meh, decision made...been a EVGA customer since 2006, my account has 4 x 590s registered etc, and now this. 
I guess no more EVGA for me.
 
Sorry but you lost a good customer.

If you're within your 90 days you can Step Up. If you didn't register your card within 14 days of purchase than you have to buy the extended warranty to be eligible. 


 

kaninja

fluffy177
Wheres your proof it will still outperform a 780 Classified? I haven't seen a single thing comparing the two, only reference 780's.

I have seen the proof.  By it's very design the 780Ti is a superior card and it can be seen by cross referencing reviews of the two cards on the same games at the same settings, and at the same resolution.  The GTX780Ti is faster when compared stock vs stock.

Just compared the two and it's so similar. Classified seems faster at 1080p and the Ti is like 5 fps faster at 1440p. Glad I cross referenced the reviews because it's not worth paying money to get very minor performance gains. Pretty much the same difference as a reference 780 to Classified. 
 
Here's the two reviews I compared. 
 
Classified: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/60269-evga-geforce-gtx-780-classified/?page=4
 
780 Ti: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/62085-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti/?page=4

Thank you for this.  This eased my mind a bit.  I don't think I am going to step-up my 780 Classified Hydro Copper for a Reference GTX 780 Ti and than fork another $130 not to mention $20 for both ways on shipping.  My 780 Classified Hydro Copper loves the 1400mhz / 7000mh range on water.  I eat Titans for lunch and dinner and from the looks of some of these reviews, the 780 Classified is beating the reference 780 Ti.
 
What's this talk about a 780 Ti Classified with 6 GB of Vram?  I do run surround and this crossed my mind but than again I would need another GPU for more horsepower anyways.
 

What kind of power target do you have to get those clocks? Mine doesn't go anywhere near that with 130% power target. Most I can get 1291 Core and 1592 Memory. The Core can go around 1350Mhz if I drop my Memory clock down but it's pretty much the same either route I go in games. I'm assuming you have a much higher power target than I do correct?
 

Vlada011
Yes it's stronger than Classified, I look now my results and it's stronger.
I mean not to much but you can OC Classified too much to close GTX780Ti and she is still better and people can play on that clock but with Classified 780 can't on so high clock for gaming. I mean look only memory. Only memory is fabric 150MHz memory than I can OC mine. That's 300 points in Valley more. Plus probably people with good memory will OC GTX780Ti Classified on 1900-2000MHz Memory + unlocked shaders and same clock, it's much better. OK probably not worth crossing from GTX780 Classified on reference model but example on GTX780Ti SC ACX or GTX780 Ti Classified worth 100%. I mean NVIDIA made us like this is new series, she made whole this hype with locking card to one part of people. Nothing more. Cards are similar, not some super stronger card, people deserve than in May for 700$ but like I say with hype and pushing people in bad feeling they earn money not with some new developed technology and with their success with some new chip. 

the 780 TI is  better really you have to remember this is a reference card still beating a fully non reference classified, if you wish to compare apples with apples wait for a oc'ed 780 ti classy to run your 780 classy against

Szeged
its the amount of voltage that would let it do those clocks, 130% power target should be more than enough for 1500+ core.

You'd think but it's not. It constantly crashes and is semi stable at 1350Mhz. Unless my card is defective because I'm seeing so many other 780 Classified owners pulling crazy OC's. My memory doesn't seem all that great on mine. If I do 1250 Core and 1700 Memory it crashes and will continue to crash till I bring it down to around 1600. The core without a memory OC will crash at anything higher than 1350. So the Core hits a fairly low ceiling without the memory and the even lower with a slight memory bump. 
 
I see they have a 200% power BIOS so maybe I should give that a shot and see if it fixes it. It doesn't artifact with anything I've tried, just isn't stable which seems like it would be power related. I know before I did the BIOS flash the card was pretty mediocre out of the box with the 115% stock LN2 power limit. Could barely get anything more out of the card till I got 130% power target. 

I think GTX780Ti Classified will be about 17-18% better out of box than GTX780 Classified out of box.
 
 
 

I am at 1.35v or even 1.33750v with LN2 stock BIOS enable with Power Target of 115%.  I guess I got a good OC'er.
 
I've even went as high as 1500mhz+ with 0 OC on memory and started to get some artifacts in Valley but scaled it back to what I gamed on 24/7 with no issues.
 

fluffy177

gtxjackbauer
I am at 1.35v or even 1.33750v with LN2 stock BIOS enable with Power Target of 115%.  I guess I got a good OC'er.
 
I've even went as high as 1500mhz+ with 0 OC on memory and started to get some artifacts in Valley but scaled it back to what I gamed on 24/7 with no issues.
 

That's insane that you can get that much voltage on the stock LN2 BIOS. Hmm, my card seems broken and not very Classified lol. Glad I paid extra for essentially nothing. 

haha thx
 
What would you guys say is a safe voltage to OC to for benching or even gaming?  1.4v-1.5v?  The most I've gotten it to was 1.35 and haven't gone past that even though I have a EVBot.  Just scared I don't want to fry the card. lol

Szeged

gtxjackbauer

fluffy177

gtxjackbauer
I am at 1.35v or even 1.33750v with LN2 stock BIOS enable with Power Target of 115%.  I guess I got a good OC'er.
 
I've even went as high as 1500mhz+ with 0 OC on memory and started to get some artifacts in Valley but scaled it back to what I gamed on 24/7 with no issues.
 

That's insane that you can get that much voltage on the stock LN2 BIOS. Hmm, my card seems broken and not very Classified lol. Glad I paid extra for essentially nothing. 

haha thx
 
What would you guys say is a safe voltage to OC to for benching or even gaming?  1.4v-1.5v?  The most I've gotten it to was 1.35 and haven't gone past that even though I have a EVBot.  Just scared I don't want to fry the card. lol

 
for benching sessions that dont last hours upon hours, 1.5v is safe for the classified, or else the evbot wouldnt be allowed to do it :P nvidia would put the green smack down on it.
 
for gaming i always run my cards at stock volts with a mild overclock, anything else is kinda overkill.

Thanks for the quick response.  I think I'll keep it at 1.35v for gaming 24/7 and maybe bring it up to 1.5v (eek) for benching.
 
I had a feeling when benching at 1500+ I needed more than 1.35v.  Will try that out sometime.

download the "classified controller" from the overclock.net evga classified club front page. that will allow you the 1.35v needed for higher overclocks :D

fluffy177

Szeged
download the "classified controller" from the overclock.net evga classified club front page. that will allow you the 1.35v needed for higher overclocks :D

Wow, didn't know it was that simple. Thanks!!!
 
EDIT: Alright I got it but which slider do I change?

NNVDD is GPU.  When you slide it all the way across it maxes out at 1.35v.

when can we expect to see 780 ti with acx coolers at newegg/tigerdirect

Szeged

fluffy177

gtxjackbauer

fluffy177

Szeged
download the "classified controller" from the overclock.net evga classified club front page. that will allow you the 1.35v needed for higher overclocks :D

Wow, didn't know it was that simple. Thanks!!!
 
EDIT: Alright I got it but which slider do I change?

NNVDD is GPU.  When you slide it all the way across it maxes out at 1.35v.

Alright I did that but it's still showing 1.212v. I restarted and everything and it's still showing that. Precision and HWinfo both show the same voltage. Does it just not show up or something?

 
it doesnt show up in afterburner/hpuz/hwinfo/precisionx, only on the classified controller :x only downside imo.

So should my voltage stay at 1.212v when idle? It seems like the voltage is stuck now which is odd. Also, should I leave the over voltage thing alone in Precision?

Szeged
not sure about the 1.212 at idle or being stuck, i always used the evbot to OC my classifieds, until it died :(

It seems stuck at 1.212v but it may be higher since that's the highest it goes. 
 
So far that tool helped a lot. Got 1411 Core and 1702 Memory. It's artifact free and passes benchmarks so that's a good sign. Before it would lock up on both so I'm making progress. Now to see if it's game stable.