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2013/03/06 09:53:08 (permalink)
mainboard:  ASUS P8Z77-V LK    11/16/12 BIOS
CPU:  Intel Core I5 3570K
Memory: Kingston KHX16C10B1R/8 8gb x2 running at 9-9-9-24
PSU:  Corsair TX750
OS:  Windows 7 64bit w/SP1

Video card: EVGA GTX 650, BIOS 80.07.35.00.50. Driver 314.07


Decided to upgrade my video card to a GTX 650 so I could get support for DX11.  This was replacing an EVGA GTS 250 that works perfectly in this system (other then getting very hot). 

I've been having stability issues with this new card since I first received it.  The first one I received I received worked fine on windows screens, but I couldn't play any game for more then about 5 minutes without a crash to desktop saying "the display driver has been recovered."  I contacted EVGA tech support:  they thought it was a heat related issue, and had me send it back under RAM.

The 2nd one I received is a bit more stable, but still crashes after maybe 30 minutes or so.  it will just suddenly freeze for no apparent reason - I'll either get a crash to desktop saying the display driver has been recovered, it may freeze the PC completely, and a few times I've gotten a BSOD.

I've tried reinstalling the video drivers after uninstalling previous ones.  I've tried about 5 different versions of the Foreceware drivers.  I've tried reseating the card and the ram.  I even upgraded the PSU to the Corsair TX750  (my original one was some no name 650w POS that had come with the case, but worked fine).  Nothing I try seems to help.  I plug my old 250 card back in, and it still worked great.

Right before the crash, I do not see any artifacting or stuttering.  Monitoring software indicates the GPU temp is peaking out around 40C.

Anyone have any ideas?  Driver or BIOS fix on the way?  Did I get a 2nd bad card?
 
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    wolfsinger
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    Re:GTX 650 stability problem 2013/03/07 09:02:35 (permalink)
    no replies yet?    not even a troll with some kind of pointless comment? 
     
    I saw the sticky post report of the new 314.14 beta drivers.   tried them last night, no change. 
     
    a friend of mine suggested I try bumping the PCH voltage up from the default of 1.05.   I set it to 1.15, and no change.
     
    My friend also suggested I try to run the card in PCI-E 2 mode, and the 650 is a PCI-E 3 card.  I tried changing this in the BIOS, but GPU-Z said it was still running in PCI-E 3 mode anyway.  As a note:  I had tried the original GTX 650 card in my third PCI-E slot which is a PCI-E 1 slot, and it still crashed.
     
    This has just been very frustrating.   I was able to play EVE last night for about an hour with no issues after loading the new beta drivers.  Then I tried some tests in 3dmark - a few times it crashed the drivers while the Fire Strike test was still loading.  A few times the tests ran all the way through.  I tried playing Warcraft for a while:  drivers kept crashing after about 15 minutes - The game recovered, but at about 1/5th the framerate. 
     
    I could probably have my son try the card in his system, but I think his only goes up to PCI-E 2, so wouldn;t be able to test it at full speed.
     
    Help?  please?  before I pull out what little hair I have left? 
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 650 stability problem 2013/03/07 13:52:08 (permalink)
    With all the driver swapping, you might have driver corruption. I would usually suggest you use driver fusion to clean up leftover registry\driver entries but its probably a better solution to backup your important files and try re-installing the OS. Make sure you update your direct x files after re-installing the OS.
     
    I upgraded to two GTX 680's from GTX 580's and this was exactly what I had to do.  Hope this helps. 
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    Re:GTX 650 stability problem 2013/03/08 07:08:59 (permalink)
    this is on a fresh install of windows 7 - maybe a month old. 
     
    not sure how to reinstall dx11 on windows 7 - the installer says the same or newer version is already installed.
     
    cleaned the system with driver fusion and reloaded the 314.07 drivers - still crashes.
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    Re:GTX 650 stability problem 2013/03/12 12:43:15 (permalink)
    After much digging around, I think the issue I'm having may be caused by some PCI-E 3.0 spec incompatibility between the Intel CPU/Chipset and Nvida.  
     
    This card is working fine in my son's machine at 2.0 mode.  From what I've been reading, there's only about a 2% performance difference in this series of card between 2.0 and 3.0 mode - I can live with that if it will be stable.  
     
    I'm now trying to figure out how to force the PCI-E slot into 2.0 mode.  There's a setting in the BIOS that is supposed to do this, but its just getting ignored - PCU-Z says its still in 3.0 mode.  Ive contacted ASUS tech support, and that's going slowly, if at all.  (The guy doesn't seem to understand the fact that I know my CMOS battery isn't dead, and hes answering emails at like 1 or 2AM.   must be from India)
     
    In digging around other places, there's a RMPcieLinkSpeed registry entry you can set to =4 to activate 3.0 mode on Z79 mobos, and also a patch that NVIDIA released that does the same.   Does anyone know if there's anything similar you can do to turn OFF 3.0 mode on a Z77 mobo?
     
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