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2011/07/07 22:58:04 (permalink)
I just built a new computer and I'm very concerned with my video card and how it's been acting.
 
- Intel i5 2500k SB
- Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler
- EVGA GTX 560 Ti SC (900 / 1800 / 2106)
- 2x2GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
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- ASUS 22" HD LED Monitor
- Antec Three Hundred Case
- Top exhaust fan (medium); Read exhaust (high); 2 x Front intake(medium); Side intake (high)
 
First off, my computer air flow is pretty decent and I'll say I don't have any temp problems with any other components. My i5 2500k SB runs at 32-35c idle / 50-55c full load (stock settings) : 38-42c / 56-60c (4.2 turbo). 
So far I haven't had any major, or even minor issues with my PC; no BSOD's, no crashes or errors, but I'm just very concerned I received a faulty VGA.
I also ran EVGA OC Scanner and Prime95.
Results:

OC Scanner: 560 Ti SC - 92-95% GPU Usage / 84-88c run for 1 hour - no errors or warnings.
(Under EVGA Precision, I set a fan profile that ran fan speed percentages with the temps - 40c temp / 40% fan speed; 60c / 60%; and so on... )
Prime95: Never got above 52-55c under full load, run for 2 1/2 hours using the balanced test - no errors or warnings.
 
I've been doing a lot of research and found the GTX 560 Ti's run a little hot, and then mine (the SC version) run even hotter. I DO run dual monitor and found out the problems with that so as of now, I've completely disconnected my 2nd monitor.
 
The first game I tested was Crysis 2, and ran it with great FPS. I had EVGA Precision running and checked the specs: 95-98% GPU usage, and no lower than 85c temps which the game running on ultra (1920x1080 resolution). There wasn't any real difference in temp or usage when running on high or lower specs (the pre-sets ingame). BTW - my CPU never got above 50-55c under load.
Next, I started up RIFT. I started at ultra settings (set everything to the highest possible + supersampling) It was running great, but GPU usage was over 90% at all times and temps were in the 80s. I tried switching the settings down to high / medium / low, and it only lowered usage and temps by 5/10 degrees and about 10-20% usage. I tried lowering the resolution to 1400x900 on lowest settings and was still running above 75-80% usage, 70+ degree temps.

I was playing RIFT with a good friend of mine that is running a GTX 470 in literally the same computer setup as mine (except the GPU) and we compaired usage and temps.
[BTW he lives in Las Vegas, and his ambient temps are probably 10-20 degrees higher than mine, in California.] 
His 470 on maximum settings + supersampling + 1920x1080 never got above 50-60% GPU usage and never climbed above 55-60 degrees Celsius.
****?? How could his 470 have LESS usage than a SUPERCLOCKED 570 Ti?? I really didn't understand this. I mean, the temps were totally off as well, even though I do have a better model and it's factory overclocked, it was running 30-40 degrees hotter under load with 10-15 degree less ambient temp. Again, we both use the same exact case and system specs.
 
Yes, I made sure I installed the card correctly in my case;
Yes, I made damn sure I took all the plastic off;
Yes, I made sure dual monitor was off;
YES I made sure my customer fan profile was on, and during all this game play, my fan ran no slower than 70-80% at all times because the temps were so high;
AND YES THE THING IS DAMNED LOUD. 
 
Sorry for the long post, but can anyone shed some light on this? I wanted to ask the community first before I called in to bug Newegg / EVGA for a RMA, and wanted to make sure I did all my research and exhausted all avenues before taking a step towards returning the card.
PLEASE HELP!!
 
Thanks,
JM
 
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/07 23:03:18 (permalink)
    Under 90c is fine and won't damage the card, u seem to have fairly decent case airflow, u could try removing the side panel from the case and testing just to make sure, other than that a re-tim of the card might help things a bit.


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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/07 23:12:38 (permalink)
    Yeah, I know what the card is rated too, and realize it will probably be fine under 90c.
    Think of it though, if a game like RIFT is using 90% of my GPU up, that's just not right for a decent computer [and brand new].
    This card is a beast, it should be able to run RIFT twice at the same time. And my friends GTX470 seemed like it would be able to, at no more than 50% usage.
     
    I know I don't have issues and the card will probably be fine, but I bought this card because IT IS POWERFUL, and I expected a lot more out of it.
    Hell, my old 260 ran RIFT and Heroes of Newerth together with 75% usage and always under 80c just as well.. (in the same case (but only with a normal AMD Quad).
     
    I feel like this card could be doing so much more and I could be getting more out of it, if it was a quality card. 
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/07 23:16:25 (permalink)
    OH AND BY THE WAY - this card is running at like, 35-38c idle right now as I'm posting in this forum... a near 60 degree jump while gaming 

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/07 23:18:22 (permalink)
    The actual gpu usage is higher the better as then u know u don't either have a bottleneck in the rest of ur system and the drivers are doing their thing with the games u are playing, it's more of a concern when the gpu is only running at 50% usage as there is a problem somewhere normally software, i have a similar issue atm with Far Cry 2 running sli i only get around 50% usage on both cards, this will be due to drivers, it still runs at 150fps so it's no problem but if it was a newer game like Metro 2033 i would be taking a massive fps hit with both gpu's running at 50% usage.
    Edit: 35-38c idle is pretty decent.
    Edit 2 lol : I can't really compare as i am watercoled atm but i remember my 1.5Gb 580 used to hit 80c ish when it was on air with a slightly uprated fan profile.
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/07 23:33:12 (permalink)
    So your advice would be to not RMA because of the high temps, and instead re-TIM? I know what that is, but I've never done it before, and looks a lot more complex than re-setting a CPU heatsink lol.

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/07 23:35:45 (permalink)
    Not sure on  the 560's but i would think they are basically the same as the 580's, try youtube u might find a vid of how to do it, with the 580's u just take the screws out of the sides of the shroud and the 4 main ones on the back on the gpu chip.


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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 01:27:02 (permalink)
    Redoing the thermal paste on the 560ti SC is not a bad procedure. Fairly easy to follow and it's quite simple. From what I understand the existing thermal paste is a good quality from the factory. Not sure but I think someone can verify that they are using Shin-etsu from the factory.
     
    You could always get a good ceramic thermal paste and redo the tim if you needed to. I have a 560Ti DS SC and I'm sitting idle at 35c and generally get to about 63c playing during the day when the weather is hot here. I've got excellent airflow in my HAF 912 so I'm not too worried about the board. 
     
    I have some pic's of redoing the TIM itself for when I redid it for a friend's 560Ti DS.
     
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    First you'll want to remove the screws holding onto the fan shroud, on the DS model there should be seven of them. Might be more for the non DS model. The ones to be removed are the ones with the red circle on them. The four in the middle are for the heat sink itself, the three smaller ones are for the shroud.
     

     
    Just remember to carefully disconnect the fan cable once you have unscrewed the shroud.
     
    From there you should see something similar to this with the heat sink still attached by the existing thermal paste.
     

     
    Just a slight twist of the heat sink itself, just be careful not to bend the blades on the heat sink and it should pop off after breaking the seal of the thermal paste.
    It should look something like this after removing the heat sink.
     

     
    From there you'll want to clean up the existing thermal paste with some cleaning agent. Some people like to use the alcohol solution method (I think they use 91%) or something similar. I like to use the Arctic cleaning package which has the two step process. I just wipe using a paper towel to get the bulk of the previous thermal paste off and then use the solution to clean the remainder off using lint free cloths and some q-tips. Do that for both the GPU and the heat sink itself to make them as clean as possible. Once done the GPU should look something similar to the following.
     

     
    And the heat sink like the following. Notice the heat sink has several rods that are placed together to form the connection point for the thermal paste to conduct heat from the GPU itself. I went over it several times to remove the existing paste from the cracks in between.
     

     
    Make sure you use the solution to go over the heat sink and GPU in the second (blue capped) bottle to prepare the surfaces for the new TIM application if you are using the Arctic Silver preparation kit. It does wonders for filling in those gaps that might be there. If not just continue along.
     
    From there I used a decent ceramic thermal paste to put several beads of the material on the GPU itself. Ceramic needs to be placed a bit thicker on the GPU so that you have a good connection with the heat sink when replaced. I put enough on there so that it would also seep into the cracks on the heat sink as well.
     

     
    I also spread it using the credit card method. This seems to work best for me. I had to go back over the GPU to ensure there was enough on there before re-assembling the card back together. Notice I had a few uncovered parts of the GPU, I just put more of the paste on there and redid the credit card sweep across to make sure it was fully covered. Don't forget to wipe off any excess that comes around the sides if needed on the GPU. The ceramic thermal paste won't harm the circuitry but it always pays to be neat and clean.
     

     
    Reassembly is fairly easy, just line up the screws to the heat sink after pressing it together initially on the GPU and use the criss cross method to reassemble the card from the middle and then replace the fan connection and bolt back the shroud.
     
    That should pretty much cover it. I used The Artic Silver ACN-60ml to clean the GPU and heat sink connection points and then used the Arctic Silver CMQ2 tri-linear thermal paste to replace what was there.
     
    http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16835100010
    http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16835100017
     
    And there you have it. Hope this helps you to understand how I did this.
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 08:09:24 (permalink)
    Awesome, thanks for the pics Scaryone!
     
    So, to make sure I have this right, the higher the GPU usage the better? If a game is loading the GPU to +90%, does that means it's maxing out its capabilities, or does it just mean it's able to use the entire card to render and whatnot?
    Will having the usage the high limit my ability to push it more? As I said in the previous post, my old 260 was able to run RIFT twice pretty well, but if what you're saying is the case, being at 70% usage with 2 open applications, means I was being bottlenecked somewhere along the line?
     
    I guess I'm just confused about the usage, because I know in the case of a CPU or RAM, when your usage gets too 80-100% you're really pushing its limits and at that point it's not going to go that much further without overheating.
     
    Also, if I were to re-TIM my card, should I use Ceramic paste? Would using AS5 be the wrong way to go? 
    I'm probably going to re-seat my CPU and reapply the paste with something better than what comes with the Hyper 212 Plus. I know AS5 is good paste, but I've been reading a lot about that top-of-the-line stuff that isn't conductive? Any suggestions there?
     
    BTW - Thanks both of you for the replies, I definitely appreciate it!

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 11:03:39 (permalink)
    I'd suggest not using silver based thermal paste on GPU's. I read somewhere that it's not good for them as it's not meant for that kind of application. I don't recall where I read it initially but I have been using ceramic based thermal paste only on my GPU's and other types for my CPU heat sinks.
     
    And as far as the utilization goes, with one game I sit around 50-60% utilization on the card. My theory is that if you can set the graphics to 'ultra' or fully rendering and still have some amount of processing power to spare then it's fine. I don't see much in the way that having more utilization of the GPU processor and/or the CPU being fully utilized is going to matter much when you are killing things in the game. As long as there is no frame tearing, the game renders well, plays well and the graphics flow without stuttering then it's all good.

     
      

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 11:17:29 (permalink)
    I'll take some pictures when I get home of my case. I thought I had some decent air flow in my Mid-Sized Antec 300 case - 2 front intake, 1 side panel intake, 1 top + 1 rear exhaust. (The PSU's fan is facing up, and exhausting out of the case).
     
    Maybe I'm not connecting my fans to the right mobo / PSU connectors because I noticed the 2 front intake fans that run past my HDs run pretty slow (my HD's stay under 40-45c when working full speed). The top intake seems to run faster than the bottom one (it connects to a "CHAS-FAN" connector on the mobo) and the bottom is just connecter to a PSU molex because it won't reach the other mobo CHAS-FAN pins.
     
    Do I still have to give the fans PSU power if connecting it straight to the mobo??
    My top / rear / side fans all have controllers (all 3 only have 4pin molex plugs)
    - Top fan runs at medium speed, rear runs at medium, and the side is turned up as high as it will go (it blows outside air onto my video card).
    Also, the CM Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler has a dual fan - push/pull setup. In bios, the 4-pin connector fan runs at about 1600-2000RPM (it sits closer to the RAM, and pulls air from the RAM / DVD-RM area and pushes through the heatsink) while the fan closer to the rear of the case helps push it out - Bios only shows this fan running at about 1000-1200RPM, even though they are the same exact fan (This fan is only a 3-Pin that connects to the 2nd "CPU-FAN" connector). I was actually thinking of swapping them so the faster fan is pushing the air out to the rear exhaust and the slower one just helps pull air into the heatsink. Either way, my CPU runs very cool and never gets about 55-60c at 4.2 turbo while under load with Prime95.
     
    Should I look into getting a Full sized tower? Right now I have a mid-size, and it's pretty cramped. Again, I'll take pictures.
    Although, I think I did a great job with my cable management considering there's almost zero space to hide cables.
    There's probably 2 inches or less from the bottom of my CPU heatsink to the top of the GPU.
    I'm fitting a fairly large CPU cooler, PSU, Video card, RAM, 2 HD's, 1 DVD-RM, 5 fans total, all running on air, into a mid-size. I'm sure more space would help with temps...
    Thank god I invested in a modular PSU - it REALLY helped with the cable clutter, and I was able to clear almost all cables near my CPU / GPU / RAM (except the mobo power cables, and front header cables that run across the side of my video card [but do not touch any components])
     
    I was looking into getting this - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 
    Or if I wanted to spend a little more - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
     
    Also, I was thinking about replacing some of my case fans if I didn't end up buying a completely new case. The top and rear fan seem to push a good amount of air out of the case, but the front intakes seem very weak. Also, my side fan that blows on my GPU, seems to really slow down when I put the side on my case. I tried swapping the fan so I exhausted air away from the GPU (because the EVGA GTX 560 Ti SC seems to blow more hot air into the case than it exhausts out the back) - and when I turned the fan around, I barely felt ANY air coming out of the air. Like the vacuum from the case wasn't allowing the fan to push any air out of the case...

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 11:22:10 (permalink)
    I can understand that - I just felt like I could be pushing this card more than it is. It's a powerful card and I feel I could be getting more out of it. If I knew how it was going to perform, I would have just purchased a 470, or SLI'd... 
     
    By the looks of it, you almost have the same computer setup as me as for as capability goes, and you're getting completely different readings than me. That seems strange to me, and makes me think getting a new card would be worth the trouble.
     
    Newegg offers the option of shipping a new card to me, and I have 30 days to return the old one. Seems like a good deal to me, and would really allow me to test them both out. If they both result in the same usage / temps / FPS, than I can exclude the GPU as the problem and I can start looking elsewhere for temperature relief.

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 13:35:19 (permalink)
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    I can understand that - I just felt like I could be pushing this card more than it is. It's a powerful card and I feel I could be getting more out of it. If I knew how it was going to perform, I would have just purchased a 470, or SLI'd... 

    By the looks of it, you almost have the same computer setup as me as for as capability goes, and you're getting completely different readings than me. That seems strange to me, and makes me think getting a new card would be worth the trouble.

    Newegg offers the option of shipping a new card to me, and I have 30 days to return the old one. Seems like a good deal to me, and would really allow me to test them both out. If they both result in the same usage / temps / FPS, than I can exclude the GPU as the problem and I can start looking elsewhere for temperature relief.

     
    If you have that option and it won't cost you anything then I say go for it and see if the GPU you originally got was defective.
     
    As far as your previous message goes, I had a cooler master elite 330 case before I got my HAF 912. The older case was a bit cramped like you are saying your current one is. If your power supply isn't modular (like mine) then you'll have to do something about figuring out where to place those cables in order for proper air flow. I think you have the same problem that I did. I had my fans in the front slower than the ones in the back but even with trying to stuff the cables in unused bays and trying to get everything situated I still had very little air flow with the older case.
     
    I purchased http://www.newegg.com/Pro...?Item=N82E16811119233, the cooler master HAF 912, and got additional high speed 120mm and a 200mm fan for the case. I have two 120mm for the front pushing air inside, the 200mm up on top pulling air out of the case, the original 120mm pulling air out the back of the case from nearby the CPU heat sink (I happen to have a Swiftech Polaris 120, just like the EVGA cooler) and a 120mm fan pulling air into the case from the side directly over the video card. My power supply fan is pointing down in order to pull cool air into the power unit for it to exhaust out without bringing in additional heat into the case.
     
    I made this diagram so you can see what I'm talking about for this case. Either way the HAF 932 is a wonderful case if you can afford it. I couldn't but I really like the one I have now. I haven't used the other case you linked but there are others here who have good results using that one as well. The important thing with the case is to ensure you have no obstructions for proper air flow. Any little cable causes restrictions on air. As far as the fans being powered by the motherboard, that is what I do so there is no really worry to that at all. Having them powered by a fan controller is different as you have more control over speed but I don't know if that is entirely necessary at this point. The thing is that your card is probably not getting enough cooler air to it due to what could be a neutral air balance. Essentially your fans aren't either pushing or pulling cooler air enough to expel the hot air quickly enough to keep the temperatures down. Sometimes having a good diagram to ensure you are having them pointed in the right direction is a good thing. Also my side fan pulls air into the case instead of trying to push hot air out. Heat rises so it's best to allow nature to help you keep things cooler by pushing colder air into from below (or enough cooler air) to allow nature to take it's course and push it out the top and back.
     


     
      

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 14:30:58 (permalink)
    Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!!
     
    I'm going to go over my my local Micro-Center to purchase a larger case. I'm sure I would be okay with the temps I have, but I'm very picky and my computer is my baby; I want to make sure it has all the best, and takes in plenty of fresh air to cool it's sexyness 

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/08 17:11:16 (permalink)
    You're welcome. Let me know how it goes and how your temps are after you're done.

     
      

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 00:16:44 (permalink)
    Quick play on Crysis 2 with the system in my sig to show u gpu usage:

    Just because the gpu usage shows 99% doesn't mean it only has 1% more to give :P
    A low gpu usage usually means bad drivers which u see more often on older games that are no longer supported by driver upgrades, it can also been a bottleneck of some kind with the rest of ur system and this is normally a cpu bottleneck.
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 00:20:18 (permalink)
    That's all water cooled for those 580's though right?
     
    Love precision to allow the graphing of the game while you're playing it. I use the overlay when I want to know about frames in games that don't show it readily.

     
      

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 00:25:33 (permalink)
    Yea, they would be awesome temps with the stock coolers :P


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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 00:26:30 (permalink)
    Krony

    Yea, they would be awesome temps with the stock coolers :P

    I was going to say that you must have been living in a freezer if those were on stock coolers.

     
      

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 00:29:49 (permalink)
    51c on the bottom card is the highest i have seen since the rebuild, and temps are pretty warm here atm.
    Ran out of MX4 so used MX3 on the bottom card but i have no clue if that has anything to do with it, could be application or just a hotter running card, top card has a VID of 1.0v where the bottom one has 1.038v so could be part of it too.


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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 00:45:16 (permalink)
    Could be possible since the cores are a bit different in the voltages. I thought I read somewhere that in SLI mode that one of them were always going to run a bit hotter than the others since it was more the outlet of all the processing power itself while the others were computing but not using the display DVI's. I've not done SLI currently (my motherboard is very limited in this aspect) but I'll have to talk with my friend who is running on an SLI enabled set of 560ti DS SC's right now and see what her temps are after doing the re-tim on her boards.

     
      

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 19:41:36 (permalink)
    So I went out and bought a new case.
    I also invested in a Corsaid H60 CPU water cooler (That wasn't worth the money; going to return it and put my Hyper 212 back on )
     
    BTW, there's a front intake fan; x2 smaller HD intake fans; a 200mm Side fan (that I've been experimenting with intake vs. exhaust); x2 top exhaust fans (I only have 1 installed, closer to the CPU / RAM); and a rear exhaust fan.
    I've also been switching intake / exhaust on the rear fan because I installed the water cooler and I read that it's supposed to be intake from the rear to cool the radiator with cold air, but I haven't really found the best way to position the rear fan yet.

    Anyways, I did some stress testing on my CPU / GPU: Intel Core i5 2500k @ 3.3ghz (OC'd to 4.0ghz using the bios turbo)
    Prime95 - 40c idle / 60-65c full load (using the most stress / heat / power settings) - This actually surprised me, I thought I was going to get WAY better temps using a water cooler. I tried switching the radiator fan to intake and exhaust and it only changes the temps maybe 3-4c. With my CM Hyper 212 I was getting just about the same temps, sometimes even COOLER.
     
    Stress Test on my EVGA GTX 560 Ti SC (SuperClocked edition) - 900 / 1800 / 2106
    EVGA OC Scanner (Using the "GPU Stress Test" for 5 minutes): 38c idle / up to 85-88c @ 95-99% load.
    I'm using a customer fan profile - fan speed matches temperatures ( 40c/40%; 60c/60%; 80c/80%; etc...)
    Now this was really weird because when I first put the computer together in the new case, I tested my temps and was happy because it wasn't running about 75c full load. I have no idea what has changed between then and now, but I'm getting over 10 degrees more than before.
     
    EVGA OC Scanner (Using the "Start Benchmark"):
    Test 1 (30 seconds) - 36c idle / 68c peak level @ 99% load
    Score: 3330 (111FPS)
    Test 2 (60 seconds) - 36c idle / 78c peak level @ 99% load
    Score: 6670 (111FPS)
    Test 3 (150 seconds) - 38c idle / 81c peak level @ 98% load
    Score: 16330 (110FPS)
     
    These temps just seem aweful high to me, considering the new case, and switching over to a CPU water cooler for great air flow. Is this normal? I'm still thinking about having NewEgg send me a new card so I can compare results between the two. Maybe I'll get lucky with the new card =\
    post edited by kostonn760 - 2011/07/09 19:55:02

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 19:46:04 (permalink)
    BTW here are the pictures of my computer I just took.
     


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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 19:54:25 (permalink)
    I don't think using the 200mm fan on the side for exhaust would be something to do considering it's position is over the GPU itself. Perhaps make that intake so that it blows cooler air into and on the card to help keep temperatures down. If you have top case fans up by the CPU use them for exhaust above and out the back for the cooler you have for the CPU. You might be sucking across hot air because of the 200mm fan pulling air out of the case instead of pushing cooler air into the case. My theory is to push the hot air out by bringing in cooler air from the outside to replace and push the hotter air up and out of the top.
     
    By the way, that is a wonderful case and good job on keeping the wires and stuff out of the way.
     
    [edit]
    I looked at my fan profile and I have mine currently set for 40% at start and then 60% at 40c, going up 10% for each 10 degrees from there after. Fairly aggressive for my card.
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 20:01:53 (permalink)
    Yeah like I had said, I was switching the fans around to see what worked best. 
    Surprisingly I got better temps with the side fan as exhaust. 
    I will try to switch it back to intake again and let the computer run for a while to get it's flow going.
     
    I'll post back with some more results.
     
    Regardless, do those temps seem pretty high? What about my CPU temps, how are those looking? is 65c a reasonable temp for water cooling? I swear I was getting the same readings with my CM Hyper 212 

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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 20:05:15 (permalink)
    I don't know much about water cooling for CPU's. I use a Swiftech Polaris 120 air cooler for mine but the CPU I have goes from around 39-40c up to about 50 or so when playing games. I would have thought water cooling, even a closed loop system like the corsair one, would have more of an immediate effect if you use the right thermal paste for CPU's. The CPU one seems a bit high considering I just finished an i7-2600k system for a friend and his idle speeds on air with a Noctua cooler are around the same as mine and his even with prime95 doesn't get much hotter than about 61c or so. I would think that water cooling would be better.
     
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    I took a look a the corsair install video for the H60 (which I think is the one you got) and they included a fan that is supposed to pull air into and through the radiator (if I am not mistaken).  Perhaps having the 200mm fan exhausting is a good thing in this case. I had considered using an H60 or even an H80 if I could afford one over the cooler I have but if the response as far as temps go then I'll hold off.
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 20:16:07 (permalink)
    Ya this H60 water cooler is kind of pissing me off. I was expecting to get much better temps from it. I'm probably just going to switch back to my Hyper 212. I must say, it is dead quite - I can't even hear it unless I turn every fan in my PC down to the lowest settings; I guess that's the only thing good it has going for it.
     
    I took off the paste it come with and applied AS5, and have only been running it for a few hours. It SHOULD have more immediate results, but I'm going to run Prime for a couple hours tonight to see if the temps drop down a bit. If I can't get below 54-55c under load, I'm taking the P.O.S. out!!
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    Re:GTX 560 Ti SC - Very high GPU usage & Temps 2011/07/09 20:40:07 (permalink)
    From what I understand about silver based thermal pastes is that there is a burn in period that you need to wait for in order for the proper curing of the paste. Give it a day or two and decide then if it doesn't drop your temps.

     
      

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